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No thanks. I really don’t want a racist homophobic predator who only kills minorities.
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CelticPredator posted:No thanks. I really don’t want a racist homophobic predator who only kills "noble savages". Really worried this is what we're going to get.
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Nov 16, 2021 20:02
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brocked posted:I'd also enjoy it done by the guy that made Bone Tomahawk Yeah. Brawl in Cell Block 99 owned, too.
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Nov 16, 2021 23:08
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Bone Tomahawk sucked out loud, holy poo poo. That movie successfully made a sex scene boring.
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Nov 17, 2021 00:17
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A lot of sex scenes are very boring. ESP PG13 ones
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Nov 17, 2021 00:22
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Yeah but Bone Tomahawk was all around boring, it’s like it went out of its way to be boring. The dialogue felt incredibly stilted for nearly all of the characters, to the point that I couldn’t give a poo poo about any of them by the time the tomahawking happened.
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CelticPredator posted:A lot of sex scenes are very boring. ESP PG13 ones Terminator 1 had the honour of being the first sex scene I saw with my parents also in the room watching. It definitely wasn't boring but I desperately wanted it to end.
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Nov 17, 2021 01:13
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Xenomrph posted:Yeah but Bone Tomahawk was all around boring, it’s like it went out of its way to be boring. The dialogue felt incredibly stilted for nearly all of the characters, to the point that I couldn’t give a poo poo about any of them by the time the tomahawking happened. I kind of agree, but I mainly called out BT because I couldn't for the life of me remember his other stuff. I just like that the shows have such a weird creepy tension throughout stuttered with brutal violence, like a Refn movie without the neon colors and thirty second pauses between every sentence of dialog.
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Nov 17, 2021 01:22
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As a big Western fan, I enjoyed the "boring" aspects of Bone Tomahawk. Like, I think my favorite scene is at the beginning when Kurt Russell and Richard Jenkins are drinking the soup.
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Nov 17, 2021 01:35
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Just watched Aliens, what a drat good movie. Hadn't seen it in a long, long time. Started watching Predator after, and all I could think was that if you swapped these 7 guys in for 7 of the marines in Aliens, things would have gone a lot better. Dillon > Gorman Dutch > Apone Blain > Drake Mac > Frost Billy > Spunkmeyer Poncho > Wierzbowski Hawkins > Crowe Keep Hicks, Vasquez (competent combatants), Hudson (tech issues, even if he's a panicky gently caress) and Dietrich (was the medic IIRC) Assuming that they're as good with the future weapons and tech as they are with their 1980s gear, this would be a massive improvement. EDIT: Also, gently caress Aliens 3. I don't care how good the director's cut is. I'll never forgive it for killing off Newt like that. They could have easily written her and Hicks out of the narrative without killing them.
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Dec 15, 2021 11:59
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Very late to the party, but I just got around to watching the episode of 'Movies that Made Us' on Netflix about Aliens. It was a very cool watch, and I admit I cried a bit when they were talking about Bill Paxton.
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Dec 15, 2021 14:06
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Charlz Guybon posted:Just watched Aliens, what a drat good movie. If you swapped the cast of predator out, they would have all died in the initial assault when Blain unloaded his minigun on the nuclear reactor. No way does anyone in the predator cast give up their ammo. Keep Apone and Drake, get rid of Dietrich, and as much as it pains me because she rocks the gently caress out of those aviators, Ferro. They all still die immediately once the Aliens attack. I like Alien 3. I get not liking what they did to Newt, but I get having to do their own thing. Although it's always bugged me that Fincher gets the blame, he didn't write the movie. I think most of it was Ward
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Dec 15, 2021 19:44
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Drake was the only reason they even got to fall back to the APC, do not disrespect Drake 
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Dec 15, 2021 19:56
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It’s all Wierzbowski’s fault
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I blame Ripley
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david_a posted:It’s all Wierzbowski’s fault he looks like he wants to be awkwardly hitting on the server at a resort while on vacation with his family in Florida - RIP a true hero
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Dec 15, 2021 22:08
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As a kid I thought his name was Bowski Where’s Bowski!??
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CelticPredator posted:As a kid I thought his name was Bowski Ha same. Must be rough to not just be in Aliens, but a space marine in Aliens, and be like the 1 guy with 0 lines. ehh did Crowe have any lines?
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Dec 16, 2021 00:10
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Most people ITT probably know that in the early internet days where was a site called Werzbowksi Hunters that tried to find every single frame he appeared in. It… it wasn’t many.
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Dec 16, 2021 00:48
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Does he have even a single line? “What’s the crap supposed to be?” with regard to the food, was that his line or was that Spunkmeyer?
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MrMojok posted:Does he have even a single line? It's both of them talking about the cornbread, according to a script I just found. Wierzbowski has surprisingly more lines than I thought, although just skimming the script I think it's mostly stuff that was cut in the theatrical release.
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david_a posted:Most people ITT probably know that in the early internet days where was a site called Werzbowksi Hunters that tried to find every single frame he appeared in. MrMojok posted:Does he have even a single line? https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/Aliens_James_Cameron_May_28_1985_first_draft.html Do a quick "find" search for his name and see all 19 times his name shows up in the entire script.  Crowe, who is on-camera for like less than a second, has an off-camera line of dialogue but I can't remember what it was. He's got a single line in the script but that line isn't in the movie to my recollection.
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Xenomrph posted:Holy poo poo I remember this. Is Crowe the one who says, "You always say 'I got a bad feeling about this drop'" ?
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Dec 16, 2021 05:47
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That’s him! I knew he had a line.
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AFewBricksShy posted:If you swapped the cast of predator out, they would have all died in the initial assault when Blain unloaded his minigun on the nuclear reactor. Vasquez unloaded her future m60 rip off and they were fine. Blain had a fall back submachine gun in Predator. I assume, he'd have a back up weapon here too.
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AFewBricksShy posted:If you swapped the cast of predator out, they would have all died in the initial assault when Blain unloaded his minigun on the nuclear reactor. That's a quick win compared to how it actually went.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Vasquez unloaded her future m60 rip off and they were fine. Blain had a fall back submachine gun in Predator. I assume, he'd have a back up weapon here too. They weren't fine? They ended up causing irreparable damage to the reactor using short, controlled fire. Once the first person gets hit, it's kablooey time with the Predator crew in there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drk_yDIyxhY&t=70s
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AFewBricksShy posted:They weren't fine? They ended up causing irreparable damage to the reactor using short, controlled fire. They were fine. They had plenty of time to escape (they were prevented from doing so by the shuttle going down) and the reactor eventually blowing up was good. Just as long as it doesnt blow up instantly they'll be better off.
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Assuming we ignore the tech and for the sake of the hypothetical they are well trained with their newly issued future/vintage weapons, I don't think there's a serious argument that the Colonial Marines do better with the swaparoo than Dutch's squad. With the exception of Blaine, everyone was a pretty cautious and fairly thoughtful operator. The marines were pretty cocksure and overconfident. An invisible stalker would cause them to break down just as fast as a hive of monsters.
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The Colonial Marines are cops who are used to beating up minimally armed, untrained civilian colonists. Dutch’s crew are a bunch of psychopathic mass murderers pretending they aren’t an extrajudicial death squad (“not assassins” indeed).
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david_a posted:The Colonial Marines are cops who are used to beating up minimally armed, untrained civilian colonists. Dutch’s crew are a bunch of psychopathic mass murderers pretending they aren’t an extrajudicial death squad (“not assassins” indeed). It would be funny if this wasn't the first or even second time they've been duped into working around their thin veneer of principles. "Hey this democratically elected government is thinking about nationalizing their mineral rights and they uh... took hostages or something. That's your thing right? They have a bunch of innocent hostages, just truckloads of them. But you have to blow up their whole army to save 'em."
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Owlbear Camus posted:It would be funny if this wasn't the first or even second time they've been duped into working around their thin veneer of principles. George Bush! You son of a bitch! [They arm wrestle in mid-air during a handshake, Bush is apparently losing the contest] What's the matter? The CIA got you pushing too many pencils?
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In their defense, I will say that the Colonial Marines were expecting another soft target (they joke about I don’t think that the end result would be much different though; probably worse. Newt would probably have gotten murked from those trigger-happy yahoos and I also think the atmosphere processor would have exploded way sooner since Dutch’s team’s motto seems to be “there’s no kill like overkill.”
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Upon further consideration there's no way Dillon gets Dutch's squad to hand over mags. If he did though they are much more comfortable with improvised kills. Dutch would simply throw a space truck at the queen.
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the marines would have hosed the predator up because they have things like infrared tracking on a machine gun that shoots explosive ammunition. we know this to be true because i hosed up predators all the time in AVP 
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A predator would have picked off Newt long before Dutches team arrives. "BuT ShEs NoT aRmEd!" Bullshit. Those gopher teeth are plenty dangerous just ask Hicks. With no Newt there's no tunnel navigator to the remote controlled rescue choppa.
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Dec 16, 2021 20:02
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Just wanted to chime in and say this predator/aliens squad swap discussion is hilarious and has been fun to read 
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The deciding factor is obviously whether or not the heroes are included. If we’re talking just the squads minus Dutch and Ripley, then they’re all dead. Do the Colonial Marines have to operate under Dutch? Does Dutch’s squad have Ripley? These are the important questions.
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Doesn't one marine ask "is this another bug hunt?" I always took that to mean they'd fought other alien wildlife before, though obviously not as dangerous as xenomorphs.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Doesn't one marine ask "is this another bug hunt?" I always took that to mean they'd fought other alien wildlife before, though obviously not as dangerous as xenomorphs.
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