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Harrow posted:That's not what "green magic" is in FF games (it's pretty much only in Ivalice games and it's protective magic like Protect, Shell, etc.), but I could see a Geomancer, though. People always mention the geomancy stuff in the AST quests but nobody can seem to agree on whether that means Geomancers will never be in FFXIV or not so I say gently caress it, add Geomancer. Geomancer's cool. Honestly Geomancer would work just fine as an offshoot of conjuring. (Which is basically how it functions in those quests.) Any Geomancer would start at least at level 80 and by that time White Mage has gone full-on Holy Power so it wouldn't feel too weird to have a job that instead goes full on Nature Power. The only 'problem' would be that it's difficult to imagine it not as a healer based off what they already established.
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A hammer class and the pre-order bonus is Nero's hammer.
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ImpAtom posted:Honestly Geomancer would work just fine as an offshoot of conjuring. (Which is basically how it functions in those quests.) Any Geomancer would start at least at level 80 and by that time White Mage has gone full-on Holy Power so it wouldn't feel too weird to have a job that instead goes full on Nature Power. The only 'problem' would be that it's difficult to imagine it not as a healer based off what they already established. Maybe they could have decent healing capabilities like Red Mage has? It'd kinda take away some of Red Mage's uniqueness though. Or instead of healing, maybe some strong buffing/support capability, like a caster take on the Dancer "lower personal DPS but boosts others' DPS" thing.
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I wouldn't mind if they instead just smoothed out the skill acquisition (aoe at 45? come on) or cleaned up the 1-50 stretch/tutorial instead. More classes are cool too though
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hazardousmouse posted:ahahahaha oh no that soft rock song stays as the final zone theme even after the trial. I was expecting and hoping it was temporary embrace the christian rock zone
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Harrow posted:Maybe they could have decent healing capabilities like Red Mage has? It'd kinda take away some of Red Mage's uniqueness though. Or instead of healing, maybe some strong buffing/support capability, like a caster take on the Dancer "lower personal DPS but boosts others' DPS" thing. It'd probably be OP as hell but it'd be interesting to see something like Leylines But For Other People. IIRC the quest even mentions them using leylines (as in the thing, not the BLM ability) so you could have them create patches of buff where the skill ceiling is learning when and where to use various patches both for your own DPS and for your party.
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Harrow posted:That's not what "green magic" is in FF games (it's pretty much only in Ivalice games and it's protective magic like Protect, Shell, etc.), Sages weren't drone commanders in previous games, either. I want a nature magic class that isn't replaced by a generic holy priest at 30.
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They took all the dots from SMN so they can put them on Greenmage who will have small debuffs and dots.acumen posted:I wouldn't mind if they instead just smoothed out the skill acquisition (aoe at 45? come on) or cleaned up the 1-50 stretch/tutorial instead. Things die so fast from single target poo poo in the ARR level poo poo even with the stat crunch. Giving you aoe earlier would make getting them in roulette even more brain dead.
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Detheros posted:1h axe geo or no geo Ah, the other half of Botanist enters the ring
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Cythereal posted:Sages weren't drone commanders in previous games, either. Well yeah, that's what Geomancer's for! I'm biased, I've been rooting for Geomancer for ages Detheros posted:1h axe geo or no geo You'll wield a bell and wear pajamas and you'll like it 
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Don't make me slap a fool if we start Geomancer chat again
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Yeah, a time caster in a pointy hat that shoots stars would step on astrologian's aesthetic a bit much. A melee bruiser with a big hammer and time-altering effects could be cool. The comedy option is that they fork Time mage off Astrologan similar to the SCH/SUM split. I'd dig a geomancer class, though I don't really know how you'd handle terrain specific attacks. I just want to ring my bell to ring the monster's bell.
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Random 89 trial question: If you do it with trusts and have Urianger on dps what weapon does he use? Does he just go full AST deeps or something? I'm curious but don't have a healer high enough to check myself.
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Harrow posted:You'll wield a bell and wear pajamas and you'll like it Only if we both agree that it will be a physical damage class because that hippy poo poo ain't magic
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Dec 17, 2021 02:09
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They should follow in GNB's shoes and give us another class you only saw in later games. Blitzball Player based entirely on Wakka, Mascot Suit class as an FFX-2 rep.
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Insert name here posted:Random 89 trial question: If you do it with trusts and have Urianger on dps what weapon does he use? Does he just go full AST deeps or something? I'm curious but don't have a healer high enough to check myself. From videos I've seen: he's basically a mini Summoner. Switches to a book and spams Ruin spells with the occasional Dreadwyrm Trance.
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Insert name here posted:Random 89 trial question: If you do it with trusts and have Urianger on dps what weapon does he use? Does he just go full AST deeps or something? I'm curious but don't have a healer high enough to check myself. I think he just leans harder on his trust exclusive abilites like how he'll just pitch around the death spell in dungeons
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Harrow posted:From videos I've seen: he's basically a mini Summoner. Switches to a book and spams Ruin spells with the occasional Dreadwyrm Trance.
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Time for everyones favorite FF11 school of magic, brown magic
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I also don't think any previously-established Geomancer canon in FFXIV through the Astrologian job quests necessarily has to affect a potential future Geomancer job. After all, they added a totally different kind of gunblade and then came up with a backstory for gunblades (including the frankly hilarious and very good detail that they predate guns and in fact guns are named after gunblades) just so that Gunbreaker can be the Squall/Seifer job instead of using Garlean gunblades. They could easily come up with another branch of Geomancy that happens to be more suited to combat magic or something.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:They took all the dots from SMN so they can put them on Greenmage who will have small debuffs and dots. Look I don't want to spend any more time in halatali than I have to. If it means my whole group can aoe down all that garbage instead of just the tank so we can move onto more interesting things, I'm gonna push for it
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In terms of classic FF jobs, the ones we haven't gotten yet are: Berserker (though Warrior fills this niche so hard we might as well) Chemist (outside of the Alchemist crafter class) Magic Knight Mime (though Gogo shows up in the Blue Mage quests) Time Mage Hunter (But we already have a bow-focused class.) Viking (Basically Warrior) Necromancer Canonneer (unlikely as hell) Beastmaster/Mediator/Trainer/etc (Probably due for a Limited Job if anything.) Oracle (probably too much overlap with Astro but maybe not?) Geomancer Calculator (Mathbot... THE CLASS) Thief (Though again Ninja basically fills this role since it evolves from Rogue.) I'm not sure if there are not any other 'big' ones that aren't variations on existing classes already (like one of the ten flavors of Holy Armored Knight or Bow-Wielding Sniper.) There are plenty of iconic characters-turned-classes they could go for, like SOLDIER or something based around Terra/Zidane/something where you can temporarily Trance into a more powerful mode like Reaper. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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They gotta work on getting people able to play before thinking of other classes
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Insert name here posted:Lmao of course dat mfer would use a book He was that before switching to his current job!
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I just saw the most amazing thing. Deadbear Lakshmi in the overworld. Of course she was rocking the level checker.
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In terms of missing weapons, we don't have anyone using maces or the like outside of pre-HW thaumaturge rods Could have a scouting Skirmisher or something.
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ImpAtom posted:In terms of classic FF jobs, the ones we haven't gotten yet are: My personal bet is they'll do a Sage and take a job and kind of make something completely new out of it. That being said we do need a hammer wielding class at some point, dunno what it'd be tho
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I'm trying to think what weapons from the franchise haven't been used yet that they can use for new jobs. Flails Boomerangs Bells Brushes Handbags
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You could take more inspiration from VIII and have a class that shoots dogs out of a crossbow at enemies Naturally it's a healer class
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I'm trying to think what weapons from the franchise haven't been used yet that they can use for new jobs. Honestly the list is basically endless. This is the franchise where you can reliably beat people to death with a sports ball.
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Yeah I just wanted to make a joke about the handbag weapons from fft.
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Melee staff would also be a fine choice.
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Give me nunchucks. Make the enemy of the new expansion my dark garlean mirror wielding gun chucks.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I'm trying to think what weapons from the franchise haven't been used yet that they can use for new jobs. Looking forward to the blizballer class.
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Not nearly enough games have melee staff fighting so I would like that very much. The Monk job in FFXII uses melee staves (poles) and it's very cool.
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They took the dots off of summoner to give them to time mage, and it'll be all about fast forwarding and rewinding your dots.
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Clarste posted:They took the dots off of summoner to give them to time mage, and it'll be all about fast forwarding and rewinding your dots. You take one step forward…
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Consummate Professional posted:I just saw the most amazing thing. Deadbear Lakshmi in the overworld. no way, i dont believe it.
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