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Add gil betting to the mahjong tables in the gold saucer and then make "earn X million gil in high-stakes mahjong bets" a prereq for each gambler job quest. With ever increasing amounts of course. If you go bankrupt you're forced to pawn your job stone and you can't raid until you earn the money back.
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Personally I'm hoping for a STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN crossover event next year
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Dec 17, 2021 05:44
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what if, and hear me out on this, we get a totally new kind of tank a tank with positionals
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Dec 17, 2021 05:46
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Since summoner stopped being the dot class I’m guessing the next caster might be a full dot class and geomancer fits both the elemental caster and the poison caster niche.
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Dec 17, 2021 05:48
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blatman posted:what if, and hear me out on this, we get a totally new kind of tank give it frontal positionals, specifically
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Dec 17, 2021 05:52
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After playing the melee dps role quests I want a duel pistol wielding gunslinger job like Merlwyb
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blatman posted:what if, and hear me out on this, we get a totally new kind of tank New tank: Ventriloquist. You have to pick a non-tank partymate to project your voice from and they take all the boss aggro instead of you. If you miss one of your positionals all your damage reduction buffs fall off and the DPS you chose instadies to the next boss autoattack
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So where does the Christmas event quest start at?
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central dogma posted:We currently have every time I see a post like this I want to resurrect and steal the "fleche and contre sixte are water and ice magic" bit that overtook the shadowbringers thread for a brief moment. anyways water, ice, air, and thunder are all their own things, so we have one(?) water (NIN, suiton?), one ice (BLM), three air (RDM, CNJ, SMN), and two thunder (BLM, RDM). water is still most underrepresented; it's also the one with probably the least representation overall across all of FF as a franchise, so that tracks. another scouting class, uses water, has access to status effects and dots...the signs all keep pointing to blitzballer. Valentin fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Regalingualius posted:So where does the Christmas event quest start at? Gridania amphitheater
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Oxyclean posted:I'd say next expansion is a safe bet for double dps jobs, assuming they don't decide to slow the pace to 1 job since they're getting a lot of upkeep. I literally loving forgot that dancer exists lmao
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Dec 17, 2021 06:08
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Endwalker is the final and absolute confirmation that they do this based on mainstat first, then role, then armor type. In this sense, you should be counting ranged as 4 with ninja in there, because it's dex mainstat/aiming rightside, not just ranged-as-role. This puts melee (str) at 4, and caster at 3, so it's going to be a caster and one other DPS, because it's likely that the pattern is DPS+cycle, where the cycle goes dps-tank-healer. Given that provides a one-expansion gap between times that a mainstat is added to, we can figure that 7.0 will add a caster and ranged, because melee is invalidated by reaper. If I'm wrong about the cycle, caster and tank.
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central dogma posted:Assassin: Can perform different attacks based on distance from mob. Can quickly move around undetected like thancred in the EW solo duty. Uses throwing stars or kunai. Weakly protests in NIN. Valentin posted:anyways water, ice, air, and thunder are all their own things, so we have one(?) water (NIN, suiton?), one ice (BLM), Which by the way also has ice. No one actually uses Hyoton, but it's in there! Actually now that I'm thinking about it giving Rogue a a branched path between NIN current and some sort of Yuffie-based giant shuriken ranged variation could be sort of neat.
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i thought white mage was the water mage divine benison, asylum, and the new plant thing all have very watery effects on them. aquaveil is a thing, fluid aura used to be a thing.
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theironjef posted:Weakly protests in NIN. Uhh aren't the ice shurikens NINs most potent attack?
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If anyone was wondering, you can solo ShB S-ranks as a 90 warrior. Takes 45 minutes, but completely safe.
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GentlemanGiant posted:Uhh aren't the ice shurikens NINs most potent attack? Oh yeah! For some reason I had it in my head those were water shurikens. Ninja just does everything but air, I guess.
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theironjef posted:Oh yeah! For some reason I had it in my head those were water shurikens. Ninja just does everything but air, I guess. They do air with the new Bunshin capper thing. You summon up a big gale and shoot your clone forward with it. Also Huton is wind themed, what with the animation and the meter being a big rear end pinwheel.
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theironjef posted:Oh yeah! For some reason I had it in my head those were water shurikens. Ninja just does everything but air, I guess. That’s how they speed up
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theironjef posted:Oh yeah! For some reason I had it in my head those were water shurikens. Ninja just does everything but air, I guess. huton, huraijin and phantom kamaitachi would like to have a word with you
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Dec 17, 2021 06:31
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Mister Olympus posted:Endwalker is the final and absolute confirmation that they do this based on mainstat first, then role, then armor type. In this sense, you should be counting ranged as 4 with ninja in there, because it's dex mainstat/aiming rightside, not just ranged-as-role. This puts melee (str) at 4, and caster at 3, so it's going to be a caster and one other DPS, because it's likely that the pattern is DPS+cycle, where the cycle goes dps-tank-healer. It sounds like you're trying to make patterns out of a very limited history. What is the conclusive proof that they choose new classes based off their mainstat? If you have to declare that Ninja is a ranged class to fit this theory you probably need to start again.
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Kerrzhe posted:huton, huraijin and phantom kamaitachi would like to have a word with you Fair, I'm still leveling through the 70s with mine. But come on, Huton and Huraijin are unaspected, they just look windy.
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theironjef posted:Fair, I'm still leveling through the 70s with mine. But come on, Huton and Huraijin are unaspected, they just look windy. i mean even before endwalker they still had a ninjutsu for every element. huton counts even if it doesn't deal damage
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Dec 17, 2021 06:34
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The kanji for wind is in Huton.
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in other news, SCRAW
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CJ posted:It sounds like you're trying to make patterns out of a very limited history. What is the conclusive proof that they choose new classes based off their mainstat? If you have to declare that Ninja is a ranged class to fit this theory you probably need to start again. Because they've always consistently added to the mainstat with the least representation, even when it meant that roles became overrepresented. The first instance of this before Reaper was Samurai, being the fourth melee added before a third ranged, which wouldn't make sense unless you view it as a third strength job added to balance out three of every other mainstat. Melee and caster also were the roles that had been the longest without an addition, which is the other part of the pattern. Between the two, you can see how 5.0 had to be (tank or healer)+ranged, and 6.0 had to be (other of tank or healer not in 5.0)+(melee or caster), which then leaves 7.0 as caster+(tiebreaker). Basically, it goes like this: 1. always add things so that mainstats are balanced out 2. don't add the same role two expansions in a row 3. don't add a tank and healer in the same expansion (confirmed as word of yoshi-p in HW) The only other thing that has yet to be confirmed as a pattern is how they handle tiebreakers and tank/healer spacing, which 7.0 will because they have no choice but to add a caster to bring everything up to 4 jobs per mainstat, then break the tie with whatever the second job is. Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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You have literally 4 datapoints that is nowhere near enough for a real reliable prediction
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that's like saying "you can't prove the alliance raid will start in 6.1 and finish in 6.5, you only have five datapoints" this game generally does content in predictable ways and on predictable schedules
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Mister Olympus posted:Because they've always consistently added to the mainstat with the least representation, even when it meant that roles became overrepresented. The first instance of this before Reaper was Samurai, being the fourth melee added before a third ranged, which wouldn't make sense unless you view it as a third strength job added to balance out three of every other mainstat. Have you considered that they may have added Samurai in Stormblood because it was the expansion about fantasy Japan? They probably just add what they think is cool with some consideration to what they role they haven't added in a while.
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Samurai could have been a tank, and indeed almost was, because Dark Knight was originally conceived as Samurai, just like Machinist and Sage were separate attempts to try and make Chemist work. The fact that they almost added Samurai in the knights-and-dragons expansion, and at first considered it because it was one of the jobs the players wanted most, is relevant here too.
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I still need to write up my thoughts on things but I can’t stop thinking about the Endwalker story. I loved Shadowbringers, but when it comes to story and theme, Endwalker is by far my favorite.
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Waffleman_ posted:They died. You killed them in the Eulmore duty. The biggest tragedy of Shadowbringers is that the Jugglers didn't get the full final fantasy 9 treatment as coming back as horrible undead monstrosities. Edit: speaking of another scouting armor user and ideas for another expansion job, maybe make a Corsair as a hybrid melee/ranged class that dual wields a pistol and a saber? Make them kind of monkish with a melee 1/2/3 and a ranged 1/2/3 that are interchangable and can link back and forth between the melee side and the gun side. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Failboattootoot posted:You absolutely can and they should. There's already heavy armor for striking and scouting gear and light armor for dragoons, the split is meaningless. Some split is going to happen no matter what, simply because NIN's primary stat is Dexterity while every other melee's is Strength. Of course, they could put both on a set, but they haven't done that since ARR and I don't see them going to go back to it. Mister Olympus posted:Endwalker is the final and absolute confirmation that they do this based on mainstat first, then role, then armor type. There's no way they'd consider NIN grouping with the physical ranged DPS over grouping them with melee. Considering that every non-stat focused system that sorts classes/jobs into categories does so by role (party finder, duty roulette, party composition for extra stats, role quests, fight mechanics, the listing on the character screen), I'd say that's their primary way of sorting them, secondary being the armor group.
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Kind of weird that we just killed those guys and then let all the other people in Eulmore off. I don't think they even did anything that bad compared to the citizens throwing their slaves off buildings and stuff. Kill jester, i guess.
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CJ posted:Kind of weird that we just killed those guys and then let all the other people in Eulmore off. I don't think they even did anything that bad compared to the citizens throwing their slaves off buildings and stuff. Kill jester, i guess. They were direct servants of Vauthry who enjoyed being absolutely awful and cruel when they could. Anyway I reckon it’ll be tank+caster next expansion. Because from what I recall they regretted adding double DPS in Stormblood because of how it hosed up queue times for dps in duties.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:New tank: Ventriloquist. Call it mime, ship it.
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 Hey Squeenix what this poo poo where are my bits that do a cool Nu Gundam wing when docked? I was loving promised.
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just farmed out the 87 dungeon and I've fallen in love with the sage weapon that drops there 
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I heard everyone has been camping for mounts so I thought I would get in on the action 
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Tank role quest How come they didn't execute these tempered Moogles from Moogle Mog? I thought that was the done thing in ARR.
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