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El Grillo posted:Pretty sure both your posts contain a big spoiler from the book that is likely to be shown at some point in the TV show so... maybe don't? I'm happy to edit my post to remove a spoiler, but what exactly do you think is a spoiler in my post? I'm pretty sure everything I've mentioned is shown in the episode, beyond the one thing I noted as having been in the trivia notes. You can PM me the information, if you don't want to post it for obvious reasons. That aside, X-Ray bonus information: Some bios for new characters: Amazon Prime X-Ray posted:
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I will say, that last note is slightly confusing, given the information the show has given so far in a way I don't think it's actually meant to be, because it just seems weird to hold back this information. I'll spoil it just in case, but it's only a clarification over a name that's unimportant on the whole. Which is to say that Myrddraal is another name for a Fade. tsob fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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"Hey man, where are you going?" "Through the blight to the eye of the world to confront prime evil from its heavily armed fastness" "How many arrows are you going to bring?" "I dunno, like seven?"
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So how’s fain opening the waygate?
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:a little too much tactical spinning in this intro There is a reason the Aiel call it dance the spears. Its all anime and was something that sounded cool in writing.
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I look forward to whatever project Barney Harris gets cast in for on TubiTV alongside Denise Crosby and the lawyer that wasn't Markie Post from Night Court.
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Nitrousoxide posted:So how’s fain opening the waygate? Nitrousoxide posted:So how’s fain opening the waygate? This same question was brought up in the book thread and people keep smugly posing a shot that wasn’t in the episode so 
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Dr. Clockwork posted:This same question was brought up in the book thread and people keep smugly posing a shot that wasn’t in the episode so Yeah the book thread doesn't know either outside of that shot and what happens in the books. Crazy!
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:a little too much tactical spinning in this intro There was very little in there that wasn't perfect actually, and drastically better fighting than 99% of the GOT sword fights. Stunt woman/actor had solid training with spears/staffs, and spacing was great. Very well thought out, not a ton of fluff there at all.
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You'll have to WAFO on Fain.
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LionArcher posted:There was very little in there that wasn't perfect actually, and drastically better fighting than 99% of the GOT sword fights. Stunt woman/actor had solid training with spears/staffs, and spacing was great. Very well thought out, not a ton of fluff there at all. the dudes jogging up to a woman in labor swinging two spears around not defending themselves in any way to get spat on a spear was not perfect and worse than anything I remember from GoT
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there is just no subtlety to any part of the script. im allergic to this queeny theater kid melodrama. im disappointed because for a few episodes I thought this would be something I would actually like on its own merits and could recommend to people.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Who is Padan Fain? He's the peddler from the first episode that buys the stolen thing from Mat. And then you later see him in the background of a few other episodes.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Who is Padan Fain? For twelve years you have been asking…
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Okay just making sure. Also everyone in this cast is so drat hot. I want to see them all kiss.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Okay just making sure. When Perrin and Rand were confronting each other over Egwene in this episode I was definitely thinking "now kiss". Or rather, "now kith" because I can't help but think it in a bad Mike Tyson voice after some comic or something I saw years ago with him saying that.
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CainFortea posted:He's the peddler from the first episode that buys the stolen thing from Mat. And then you later see him in the background of a few other episodes. I hate that I missed this do you have screenshots? El Grillo posted:Ah yeah it was just the first person's post, there is something in there which is from the books but hasn't been seen/said in the show yet I think? Possibly a big spoiler, I think someone mentioned they're likely to show it next episode everything in that post has been seen on the show (mostly today's episode) except one thing which is in the bonus content (and also might have been mentioned on the show but I don't remember) that had already been released prior to this week e: also this episode was excellent and my only complaint is just a continuation of last week's (and I see others have started picking up on wondering why they did it even if for different reasons) IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:the dudes jogging up to a woman in labor swinging two spears around not defending themselves in any way to get spat on a spear was not perfect and worse than anything I remember from GoT turn on your tv next time.
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IcePhoenix posted:I hate that I missed this do you have screenshots? The specific trivia note on that was one I omitted each time I posted episode 5's notes, because it felt a bit too spoilery. It seems fine to post it now though, because the show wants to make it pretty clear that Rand is the Dragon Reborn.
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IcePhoenix posted:I hate that I missed this do you have screenshots? I didn't, but I do now. Ep2: Not actually on screen, but you can hear the whistling.  Ep5: Whistling and then...both the same scene, just different angles   No whistling, but he does laugh when he walks away 
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That rules, thanks!
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The camera work for the intro fight was awesome but the choreography was so dumb. Multiple plate wearing soldiers getting wrecked by a someone in labor wearing robes is weird enough but all the jumping and spinning bullshit is just so cringe. Like "300" level cringe.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:The camera work for the intro fight was awesome but the choreography was so dumb. Multiple plate wearing soldiers getting wrecked by a someone in labor wearing robes is weird enough but all the jumping and spinning bullshit is just so cringe. Like "300" level cringe. A bunch of people in here really don't get sword/spear fighting combat! more cringe than the excellent fight scene. I also don't think the (I'm assuming here) dudes get how dope it is to watch a woman who's pregnant kicking so much rear end. Twitter is going nuts over that scene. LionArcher fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Rule of  , baby.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:The camera work for the intro fight was awesome but the choreography was so dumb. Multiple plate wearing soldiers getting wrecked by a someone in labor wearing robes is weird enough but all the jumping and spinning bullshit is just so cringe. Like "300" level cringe. Actually it owned poo poo.
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:there is just no subtlety to any part of the script. im allergic to this queeny theater kid melodrama. im disappointed because for a few episodes I thought this would be something I would actually like on its own merits and could recommend to people. the relationship drama dialogue was bad, but imo the worst was the rapid-fire exposition after the trolloc attack in the ways. it sounded like they were gonna break into song lol.
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Good intro, good ep, was hoping it’d pop off more towards the end but good setup for next week. Aiel lady killed it tbh but I was definitely hoping for a longer Tam flashback. These episodes all need to be thirty minutes longer. Also I will continue to stan Min.
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:there is just no subtlety to any part of the script. im allergic to this queeny theater kid melodrama. im disappointed because for a few episodes I thought this would be something I would actually like on its own merits and could recommend to people. Yeah, they are not going for the 'subtle' style, that's for sure. It's a mix of the rushed pace + choosing to make things more dramatic/exciting.
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Dunno if it was just me but the most jarring thing to me from the fight scene was that the sound effects were off from the blows. Beyond that it wad mostly fine (the dagger disarm after she was stabbed was wrong but that's nitpicking).
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:The camera work for the intro fight was awesome but the choreography was so dumb. Multiple plate wearing soldiers getting wrecked by a someone in labor wearing robes is weird enough but all the jumping and spinning bullshit is just so cringe. Like "300" level cringe. Aiel spend their entire lives training for battle and your average soldier is just some dude who's been handed a sword and armour and been told to go fight someone
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How are u posted:Actually it owned poo poo.
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:there is just no subtlety to any part of the script. im allergic to this queeny theater kid melodrama. im disappointed because for a few episodes I thought this would be something I would actually like on its own merits and could recommend to people. I am forced to agree. I just don't think the show is very good, I can't point to a single thing that does it, it's just an overall impression of low quality everything, acting, script, effects. It doesn't once manage to make me suspend my disbelief when watching it.
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Yea, I wanted to like this but I think I'm done. The show somehow feels cheap despite its ridiculous budget
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I think I’m giving it leeway because this is what we’re going to get, for better or worse. Having said that, my patience with GoT only lasted three seasons, and they had much better actors.
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Bullet Proof posted:Yea, I wanted to like this but I think I'm done. The show somehow feels cheap despite its ridiculous budget Its because the books are absolute trash written by a level 4 nebbish lord and the fact the shows based on them are able to draw themselves up be at eye level to the same quality of Kevin Sorbo's Hercules: The Legendary Journeys or something starring Lorenzo Lamas is a testament to the hard work of cast, crew and production team.
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Enjoyed this episode, but I understand people's criticisms of it feeling like a theatre kid thing. I don't get the 'cheap' comments, but maybe that's coming from the acting/writing more than the production value which is generally really good outside of obvious scene shortenings and weird cuts. Here's the thing - I think all of the plot developments and fantasy locations the characters visit are really cool. I break out into a smile several times an episode because of these, like in this episode in the ways when the Machin Shin or whatever it was called appears as a weird shadow and they are being attacked. I liked the blight visuals at the end. Etc etc. All of this is good and the cool new elements come in with such frequency I'm never bored. But the writing isn't very good. It's been easy to overlook this due to the elements I just mentioned, but in this episode especially when it slowed down for a while and did relationship drama I thought oh christ, here's where the show might tank. I've decided the actress playing Egwene isn't very good now, after having basically no opinion on her until now. The lines she gets definitely don't help her but other actors can sell this poo poo a bit better yet when she says it I just think 'i am watching someone trying to act right now'. I don't buy that Perrin has any feelings towards Egwene at all based on what I've seen so far, it came out of nowhere - which didn't help. That whole scene of them arguing felt like a forced waste of time. Similarly with Lan and Nyaneve, I'm just not seeing any romantic chemistry and the writing hasn't built up much there either. They've been put together in scenes where the mechanics of forming a connection were present, but at most it's felt like a mutual respect kind of thing rather than a burgeoning relationship. Lan and his actor are so good that he almost makes the scenes work, but I feel like he's playing against a kind of void. On the other hand, I appreciate how light they've been with the humour. That's a strange compliment maybe, that the show isn't funny, but I feel like with the quality of the writing we have in the dramatic scenes, if they tried for comic relief we'd just get a lot of lovely quips and/or cringe inducing situations, so I don't want them to even try. That they aren't shoe-horning in funny lines to every scene actually feels refreshing, so that the 2 or 3 comedic lines per hour are welcome even if they aren't really funny. Overall though, I think the whole package is compelling. I'm sure this is because they are working from books with a huge amount of plot to choose from as they go along, and since the book series is complete and apparently improves from here that is a good sign. They won't run out of cool material. I just hope they can get this writing up to scratch and some of the weaker actors like Egwene get better as they settle into their roles/get more experience. Rosamund Pike as Moraine is excellent. She's always interesting and manages to elevate her various scenes with the younger actors. It is a shame they recast Mat, because even though I don't like his character, he's been the most convincingly portrayed of any of them followed by Rand who until now hasn't been given loads to do, so we'll see how that goes. I kind of guessed Rand was the dragon reborn and I'm glad we're moving ahead from that plot point now, feels like the right time. roomtone fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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