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xiw posted:Weird to me that the old man will still give you his key when you talk to him even if you've pissed him off? I think thats probably a bug, I was also able to talk to people/trade with them after I killed them
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I just got into Egg, Inc. a couple of days ago, already prestiged once and advancing in eggs fairly often. There is something wonderfully absurd about watching a few hundred pixel-hens stream from the hatchery into a house bigger than mine to poo poo out fusion-power eggs while killing drones 
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xiw posted:Weird to me that the old man will still give you his key when you talk to him even if you've pissed him off? There's a few bugs like that, but they're getting found. The assassin can be killed multiple times and still give a gold reward. It's a bit of a trip to the blacksmith from there, but it can get out of control once your familiarity starts to go up.
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D34THROW posted:I just got into Egg, Inc. a couple of days ago, already prestiged once and advancing in eggs fairly often. There is something wonderfully absurd about watching a few hundred pixel-hens stream from the hatchery into a house bigger than mine to poo poo out fusion-power eggs while killing drones I got back into this for a week or so then fell back off. It said my save was cloud loaded from 2017. I can't believe it had been 4 loving years. Still a good game but it's way more active than I was really looking for once you start having challenges. I wanted a game I could basically spam click 1-2 days after work when I'm in depression mode and only able to watch reruns after work and low effort games. Egg Inc wants you looking at it every day or you fail the challenge because other players will boot you. I'm sure there's plenty of content before that, I did everything back in 2017 that content still likely exists and has to be gone through over months.
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pixaal posted:I got back into this for a week or so then fell back off. It said my save was cloud loaded from 2017. I can't believe it had been 4 loving years. I played Egg Inc for a long while because it was a decent way to waste 15 minutes a day. But then challenges came and it became 25 minutes. But only because I had too many eggs and I could carry most challenges myself. Then they started messing with things more to make it take more time than that and added tiers of challenges, and people were able to be obnoxious about booting others, and it hit that multi-player sort of mode where it was not fun anymore and just the same old gamer crap. The worst was having to buy boosts, but then wait X time before you could use them depending on Y boost you want to use. Maybe some of it's changed, but the multiplayer challenges went from this is cool, to this is a drag over about six months. Hopefully they found some balance for it, but who knows. The actual base game is plenty of fun though, and I'd recommend it for people who want a nice little game to play for a few minutes on your phone. Doesn't really require active play, but they added piggy bank caps for golden eggs which wasn't great. But you don't need to buy them, and you get quite a few playing normally shooting down drones so you can buy all the gold egg upgrades. I'd expect if I opened it my Enlightenment Egg run to cap would still be there, stuck 30 hours from the last time I opened the app. So only 45 more days to go, but that was too boring to bother doing.
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play it until it stops being fun, how most idle games go
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Bitburner is real loving fun. I wish there was a way to read the API but only filtered by what point in the story you were at to avoid spoilers though.
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everyone sings the praises of bitburner but making you write actual code is a huge turnoff
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Aurora posted:everyone sings the praises of bitburner but making you write actual code is a huge turnoff 
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Aurora posted:everyone sings the praises of bitburner but making you write actual code is a huge turnoff
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it's a game for computer touchers who are happy about being computer touchers
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Been tinkering about with Machinery a bit, which is pretty new(?) and so far enjoyable. Starts out simple but there's plenty of content hidden away after the resets. Has a very well made UI. E: There's a dev version with a bunch of good changes already out to test here Rynoto fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Aurora posted:everyone sings the praises of bitburner but making you write actual code is a huge turnoff Pretend you're a real computer toucher and
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does it at least have autoformat
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Aurora posted:everyone sings the praises of bitburner but making you write actual code is a huge turnoff The last time I did any programming was a C++ class in high school almost 20 years ago and I'm pretty much completely lost at what I'm supposed to be doing, even following the tutorials. It also didn't help that the initial tutorial script straight up tells you it's garbage, you shouldn't use it, and should learn "NS2" or something.
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The initial script is, indeed, garbage. A big part of bitburner is coding scripts to automate everything and is really where the main fun is.
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Aerox posted:The last time I did any programming was a C++ class in high school almost 20 years ago and I'm pretty much completely lost at what I'm supposed to be doing, even following the tutorials. "NS2" is still javascript but with more stuff. If you understood how to write a thing in NS1, you do the same thing except:
In exchange, basically all your scripts execute instantly except where there's a game-based timer (e.g. hack, grow, weaken). If NS2 still seems daunting, feel free to stick with the .script files until you're more comfortable.
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none of what you posted means anything
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Bedurndurn posted:"NS2" is still javascript but with more stuff. If you understood how to write a thing in NS1, you do the same thing except: I appreciate that but I don't know what NS1 is either 
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Bitburner reminds me too much of my actual job and that annihilates any desire to play it. A real example of a game designed for a very specific type of person (and I am not that person).
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Yeah why don't you just code and make something at that point, instead of simulating coding and not making anything
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I wish it somehow taught me how to code instead of requiring me to learn how to code. I dabbled half an hour and wished I was playing uplink instead Oenis fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Honestly, if you want a hacking/coding game the Hacker Evolution series was pretty okay. https://store.steampowered.com/app/70100/Hacker_Evolution/ It's older, but it's full of puzzles and you don't need to actually learn java scripting to be able to understand or play the game. I would think this is where Bitburner gets some of its inspiration (along with CP2020/2077). It's too bad they took actual coding stuff and put it into a cyberpunk game where the basic mechanic is not actually needing to know how to code, but know when to use the programs you already have to best solve the maze and not get flatlined.
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Oenis posted:I wish it somehow taught me how to code instead of requiring me to learn how to code. Loving that the top "guide" for the game is the same trash. Telling you "to optimize your code, you should make it do x". My dude, if I knew how the gently caress to do x, I probably would already know how to optimize my code without a guide. I'm having fun with it now, but holy hell that hurdle of nothing explaining how to do things is garbage. Fortunately the Discord server for it isn't the same degree of gatekeeping and people are helpful.
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I do know how to code but I didn't get anywhere with Bitburner because I was afraid I couldn't resist the temptation to just copy paste other people's scripts together so it was  optimal which sounds like a personal problem, I know
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SettingSun posted:Bitburner reminds me too much of my actual job and that annihilates any desire to play it. A real example of a game designed for a very specific type of person (and I am not that person). It does seem alright (coding is fun!) but yeah maybe on a long holiday or something rather than something you play in addition to your job. It's the equivalent of a farmer playing Farming Simulator after work
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Jhet posted:Honestly, if you want a hacking/coding game the Hacker Evolution series was pretty okay. https://store.steampowered.com/app/70100/Hacker_Evolution/ It's older, but it's full of puzzles and you don't need to actually learn java scripting to be able to understand or play the game. I would think this is where Bitburner gets some of its inspiration (along with CP2020/2077). It's too bad they took actual coding stuff and put it into a cyberpunk game where the basic mechanic is not actually needing to know how to code, but know when to use the programs you already have to best solve the maze and not get flatlined. If you really want a hacking game, try Uplink. It's the preferred software of Fast-Talking Computer Hackers that just have to break through the encryption shield before uploading a nano-virus.  https://store.steampowered.com/app/1510/Uplink/
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Sivart13 posted:I do know how to code but I didn't get anywhere with Bitburner because I was afraid I couldn't resist the temptation to just copy paste other people's scripts together
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:If you really want a hacking game, try Uplink. It's the preferred software of Fast-Talking Computer Hackers that just have to break through the encryption shield before uploading a nano-virus. I didn't even realize that game existed still, and it does look like you need to maybe mod it to get it to run on modern systems. But if you're truly elite, then something something choom. None of these games are really incrementally, but it's tangentially close enough. Rynoto posted:Been tinkering about with Machinery a bit, which is pretty new(?) and so far enjoyable. Starts out simple but there's plenty of content hidden away after the resets. Has a very well made UI. I'm enjoying that Machinery game okay today. Simple enough start, but doesn't look overly complicated.
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GrossMurpel posted:It does seem alright (coding is fun!) Hard pass
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am a professional computer toucher I bounced off immediately folks who do that 40+ hours and then go home and work on their open source GitHub repo might as well have the innsmouth look to me
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I'm a professional computer toucher but I kind of dig it. I dunno man, it's just the fun part of coding but not the unfun parts of it. There's no customer stories, no fighting with requirements or poo poo you don't own. Reasonably simple, small list of controls and a concrete goal. I'm also not one of those 'go home and code all night' guys either, it's just kind of nice to gently caress around with. It absolutely would be a great game to get people up to speed on JS but instead it's just like 'hope you ALREADY KNOW this wonky rear end language'. I bounced off it a few years ago and now I'm at a point where I know just enough js to be dangerous.
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Jhet posted:I didn't even realize that game existed still, and it does look like you need to maybe mod it to get it to run on modern systems. But if you're truly elite, then something something choom. None of these games are really incrementally, but it's tangentially close enough. Uplink works absolutely fine on my Win10 machine. Fun game but it does get a bit samey towards the end and a bit easy once you figure out you can just click as many redirection nodes as you feel like
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a mission to move the contents of a bank account to another one? cool, job done. now what was that IP again so that i can make my close associate Mr Snrub very wealthy
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The way I have been playing bitburner is to just work at the fast food place and make money that way while I procrastinate not doing any of the JS tutorials it recommended.
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On the general tech-theme, does anyone know of/remember the incremental where you're an ai trying to spread out/survive? I cannot remember the name, and I'm not having much luck finding it again. Pretty sure it was a flash game, considering how long it's been since I played it. You start out getting access to the internet and start bottnetting toasters, and end up mass-manufacturing underwater city-sized serverfarms to avoid getting nuked by humanity. (e: though it's a pre-incremental-incremental game, so I think it was something you could complete in a single sitting.) SubNat fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Dec 18, 2021 |
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^^ Endgame:Singularity is what you are thinking of. Anyone have suggestions for what is the best flash player emulator for undefeated spider? I recently remembered I had saved the .swf file for the game, but I want to make sure the game will actually save properly before I put too much time into it. I tried using the web demo for Ruffle, which works great, but I don't know where it saves its cookies. Also, I forgot how fun the game is! It has a very satisfying ramp up from slowly attacking to flooding the screen with dozens of attacks a second.
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edgeman83 posted:Anyone have suggestions for what is the best flash player emulator for undefeated spider? Do you specifically need an emulator? If you have a .swf file you can just use the standalone flash player https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html and play it locally without issue, unless we're talking playing it on android or something. e: ^^ Yes, that sounds very correct and the kind of extremely generic title that makes it just vanish. e2: what? ' Download 1.00, released 07-04-2020 ' Goddamn, it started getting updates again after a decade idle, that's impressive.
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How important/useful are the challenges in sadistic NGU? I'm at the point where I can idle the first level of the final titan (amalgamation or whatever it's called). I got the troll challenge that got me better mcguffins but since then I've not touched the others. The only thing that stands out is the extra accessory slot for finishing the troll challenge but even then would it really add much to where I am? Every little helps I suppose, but my current aims were to get the basic final titan gear, complete all wishes and hacks (maybe hacks first as my hack hack only has 300 levels until it hits the cap) and then move onto other things.
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