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muscles like this! posted:I did think it was funny how in the course of "fixing" all the characters they also took the time to give Goblin something approximating his classic costume. It helps that he already had a goblin face without the mask. Seriously, how is that man so much scarier as a senior citizen than he was 20 years ago?
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Open Marriage Night posted:Next Spider-Man would be a good time to introduce Black Cat Yeah it seems like they're finally moving into the "young adult" Spider-Man, so entering the Black Cat era might make some sense. I'm the weirdo the really liked Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man and enjoyed ASM 1, but man it should have been post high school, even then Garfield looked like Buscemis "fellow kids" guy. The reset is a pretty good way to do a soft reboot of the series while maintaining the cast. Part of me wishes they'd just stop while they're ahead, but another part of me wants to see where they go. The worst part of the Holland movies was all the tech, so it's cool to completely take it off the table.
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JT Smiley posted:It helps that he already had a goblin face without the mask. Seriously, how is that man so much scarier as a senior citizen than he was 20 years ago? He’s been perfecting that terrifying grin for 40 years.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Next Spider-Man would be a good time to introduce Black Cat Especially given the mid-credits thing
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Dec 19, 2021 21:49
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Make the 4th with both Spider-Gwen and Black Cat and have peter need to deal with a Betty and Veronica situation
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twistedmentat posted:Make the 4th with both Spider-Gwen and Black Cat and have peter need to deal with a Betty and Veronica situation this but unironically  also i really REALLY hope we get a Dark Reign movie out of this
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NWH made more money in its opening weekend than anything else released during the pandemic, like total for their runs. Also was the third highest opening of all time.
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muscles like this! posted:NWH made more money in its opening weekend than anything else released during the pandemic, like total for their runs. Also was the third highest opening of all time. Not even top 2. Not looking good for another Spidey movie.
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I'm sure some Sony executive is yelling at an assistant about how come it wasn't the highest opening of all time.
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Dec 20, 2021 00:56
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Posting from the theater during credits but quick thought I'm so glad that Peter is poor again. Peter's the working man hero dammit!
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I finally watched Let There Be Carnage and lol what a hunk of poo poo
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The entire apartment fight and subsequent party scene was better than every non Spider-Man MCU release this year
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I mean that's not a super high bar, but I do still need to watch Venom 2
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The original Venom surprised me by being enjoyable. Let There Be Carnage was just awful.
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CelticPredator posted:The entire apartment fight and subsequent party scene was better than every non Spider-Man MCU release this year I'd still put Shang-Chi and Black Widow above it. The former at least having some memorably good fight scenes and the latter not being actively terrible. At least neither had a police detective notice Eddie Brock's new Sony Bravia TV and mention how nice it was
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Dec 20, 2021 04:16
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I saw No Way Home earlier. Garfield actually saying 'no big deal' loving killed me.
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I love how everyone keeps making excuses for Strange’s spell and what it can do. Wonder Woman had a magic wishing stone that corrupted your mind to make you do stupid things and nobody would shut up about how stupid it’s better explained implications were. Glad I got to see Spidey 12 in theaters! I got my booster! Covid be damned! I feel bad that I didn’t see suicide squad 2 in the theater. That has become my favorite superhero movie. Spidey 12 is like the 5th….which still a pretty good number on my list. Also why the venom hate? I always wanted a good follow up to Newline Cinema classics like The Mask. That’s when they take a good book and do something completely different…but some how still…good? It’s camp! I like to think of it as another take on Little Shop of Horrors (a movie I watched all the time). A deleted scene in Venom 2 explains Carnage’s actual motivation. Carnage wants to basically infect and control everyone…he calls it total carnage. It’s the same thing that Audrey 2 wanted to do. Cassidy seems confused but is gonna go with it. Sherik is not cool with it but trusts Cletus to keep her safe. Explains why carnage turns into a giant tree about to spore at the end… I guess they just wanted make them not have a plot?
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Just got back from NWH and I'd say I liked it overall but I do have mixed feelings about some things Pros:
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I got a plot question is there a reason for their fight to be at the Statue of Liberty? Pete was holding all the cards. Nobody was being held hostage, I don’t understand why he would make that Super Villain location choice. JJ is right.
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Dec 20, 2021 05:37
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Probably to get them all into one place where they don't cause collateral damage to innocent people
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He's still pissed at Cap for dropping that trailer on him years ago.
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So Wong is the Sorcerer Supreme now because Strange got snapped? Didn't Wong get dusted too? I thought he was listed as snapped/MIA in the scene that also listed Shuri as snapped?
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MH Knights posted:So Wong is the Sorcerer Supreme now because Strange got snapped? Didn't Wong get dusted too? I thought he was listed as snapped/MIA in the scene that also listed Shuri as snapped? He just portaled himself somewhere to not be bothered for 5 years
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Please spoil for me if No Way Home ends with a "WHAT THE F-" *cut to credits* like the previous two movies, and if so, what it is.
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Jamesman posted:Please spoil for me if No Way Home ends with a "WHAT THE F-" *cut to credits* like the previous two movies, and if so, what it is. no unfortunately
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Jamesman posted:Please spoil for me if No Way Home ends with a "WHAT THE F-" *cut to credits* like the previous two movies, and if so, what it is. no fortunately
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King Baby posted:I got a plot question is there a reason for their fight to be at the Statue of Liberty? Pete was holding all the cards. Nobody was being held hostage, I don’t understand why he would make that Super Villain location choice. JJ is right. It's a location away from the city where no one would be at night. With guys like Electro and Sandman running around it was the easiest way to stop collateral damage. It would also be a more private location for the final battle, I guess, with no one nearby watching or anything to see multiple Spidermans running around or whatever.
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Also because it’s a movie and not a documentary. ”Come fight me at the Statue of Liberty” is more interesting than “come fight me in this field 20 miles north of Albany where they’re about to build that outlet mall”.
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Reset thoughts: So the ending was sort of a massive loving downer for me. Peter is now an orphan with no money, no idea how he got that apartment in NYC. No friends, nada, zip zilch. He apparently still exists on paper, but people now have no memory that a Peter Parker exists on Earth. Does this mean that since Nick Fury is off planet that him and Captain Marvel are the only ones that remember who he is?
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Jiro posted:Reset thoughts: So the ending was sort of a massive loving downer for me. Peter is now an orphan with no money, no idea how he got that apartment in NYC. No friends, nada, zip zilch. He apparently still exists on paper, but people now have no memory that a Peter Parker exists on Earth. Does this mean that since Nick Fury is off planet that him and Captain Marvel are the only ones that remember who he is? No, not even them. But everyone remembers Spider-Man, so he can still turn up and hang out with heroes if he needs to, and at some point he'll gradually reintroduce himself to them as Peter if he feels safe enough to do so. Learning who to trust and when will be a big part of his story going forward.
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I don't think they'll be bringing in big players again soon because this is probably their way of bringing Spidey back down to street level (I'm thinking maybe a Daredevil team-up movie?), but even if Fury doesn't remember anymore, it'd take him all of ten seconds to find out again. Also they could fudge it and say something like "the spell was only for the planet; off-planet people weren't affected but I didn't think that was important to mention before"
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King Baby posted:I got a plot question is there a reason for their fight to be at the Statue of Liberty? Pete was holding all the cards. Nobody was being held hostage, I don’t understand why he would make that Super Villain location choice. JJ is right. Peter shows the same amount of respect for the Statue of Liberty that the US shows to the values it represents
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I’ll always remember on 9/11 I was in high school and everyone was going full panic. One girl said “I heard they flew a plane into the Statue of Liberty!” and my first thought was “well that doesn’t seem nearly as bad”.
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Spider-Man doesn't wanna fight in a field, he's gonna pick something where he can webswing. Statue of Liberty covered in gantries is basically his briar patch.
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Jiro posted:Reset thoughts: So the ending was sort of a massive loving downer for me. Peter is now an orphan with no money, no idea how he got that apartment in NYC. No friends, nada, zip zilch. He apparently still exists on paper, but people now have no memory that a Peter Parker exists on Earth. Does this mean that since Nick Fury is off planet that him and Captain Marvel are the only ones that remember who he is? I have not seen it yet, but the spell erased Peter Parker totally from memory? or just that he is Spiderman?
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The first thing.
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badjohny posted:I have not seen it yet, but the spell erased Peter Parker totally from memory? or just that he is Spiderman? NWH ending spoilers No one remembers that Peter Parker exists at all. People remember stuff about Spider-Man but not who he is.
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I do take some issue with that, I get it was for story purposes and everything but Strange could have totally put like a 2 mile safety zone there, or even just left his own memory so they could deal with it later. It's one of those things you just have to not think about too much
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Retro Futurist posted:I do take some issue with that, I get it was for story purposes and everything but Strange could have totally put like a 2 mile safety zone there, or even just left his own memory so they could deal with it later. It's one of those things you just have to not think about too much Except that the botched spell was tearing reality several new ones at that very moment so there wasn't time for nuance.
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"We don't have time for that, Peter, we've got to establish a status quo where you can sell pictures of yourself to J Jonah Jameson"
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