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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I don't know how many times I've heard people tell me that the separation of church and state does not mean freedom from religion - only freedom of religion. It makes no sense at all, but so many tall tales have been invented about the First Amendment that a lot of people don't even know what it says or does. In the comments of one of his "Bring back school prayer" posts, someone replied to my dad with "What do you think this does to Muslim children?", his response was "I don't care what god you pray to, as long as you pray in school!".
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I don't see how it would be at all alienating to be the only kid who sits there awkwardly or leaves the room during Class Normal Religion Prayer,
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LonsomeSon posted:“I want you to be free to do whatever you want, as long as you only want the things I want you to want” is political in 100% of cases no matter how it’s framed The law is the same for everyone, you can marry anyone you want (as long as it's the opposite sex) If it was good enough for white English speaking Jesus it's good enough for anyone that wants to live in Murica Medullah posted:In the comments of one of his "Bring back school prayer" posts, someone replied to my dad with "What do you think this does to Muslim children?", his response was "I don't care what god you pray to, as long as you pray in school!". "I agree, we should make your kids pray to Shaitan during school hours. Celebrate the great liberator!"
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Medullah posted:In the comments of one of his "Bring back school prayer" posts, someone replied to my dad with "What do you think this does to Muslim children?", his response was "I don't care what god you pray to, as long as you pray in school!". "When you're privileged, equality seems like oppression". A lot of Christians can't fathom the idea that not everyone thinks and acts the same way as they do, and they get mad when they're not allowed to dominate the cultural landscape (see also: the War on Christmas).
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I don't know how many times I've heard people tell me that the separation of church and state does not mean freedom from religion - only freedom of religion. It makes no sense at all, but so many tall tales have been invented about the First Amendment that a lot of people don't even know what it says or does. Yeah, because what if your religion is "no religion", none or unsure? Then again, as they like to tell us, the U.S. was founded on CHristian Principles, like it says in the constitution uhh...somewhere. If I read it long and hard enough, I'm sure the words "God" or "Christ" show up somewhere. Anyhow, here's my conservative American flag (since that old one sucks now) describing allegiance to cops and celebrating The Punisher.
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 My town (Oxford, Michigan) had a school shooting a couple weeks ago. So there's tons of "Oxford Strong!" and "Prayers for Oxford" signs everywhere. BUT because we're Trumpville, gotta get the classics in.
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BiggerBoat posted:Yeah, because what if your religion is "no religion", none or unsure? Area man expert on what he thinks the constitution says
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Medullah posted:
And this is absolutely a case where the thin blue line didn't actually provide any protection. (As opposed to something like providing mental health support and making sure parents are responsible with kids and guns). Pretty ironic.
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Jesus wrote the constitution and Moses carried it down from Mt. Rushmore, right?
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Jesus wrote the constitution and Moses carried it down from Mt. Rushmore, right? Jesus chiseled the Ten Commandments and the Constitution into Plymouth Rock Himself and the First Commandment is "Hurt people you don't like"
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If the founding fathers didn't want Christianity to be the one true religion why does our money say "In God We Trust"? Or why does the Pledge of Allegiance say "One nation under god"? And why is the song "Good bless America"? Checkmate, libtards
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Medullah posted:If the founding fathers didn't want Christianity to be the one true religion why does our money say "In God We Trust"? Or why does the Pledge of Allegiance say "One nation under god"? And why is the song "Good bless America"? Oooooo! ooo! I know the answers to all these! Also, why we sing the Star Spangled Banner at sporting events for some reason but I've been told that even asking these questions makes me unpatriotic.
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It's on money...it has to be true!
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DarkHorse posted:The law is the same for everyone, you can marry anyone you want (as long as it's the opposite sex) The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread. BiggerBoat posted:Then again, as they like to tell us, the U.S. was founded on CHristian Principles, like it says in the constitution uhh...somewhere. If I read it long and hard enough, I'm sure the words "God" or "Christ" show up somewhere. They'll quote the part of the Declaration of Independence where it talks about how all men are endowed by their Creator with rights. But only men, not women. Also, not anyone with dark skin. Oh and anyone who disagrees with them politically.
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Medullah posted:If the founding fathers didn't want Christianity to be the one true religion why does our money say "In God We Trust"? Or why does the Pledge of Allegiance say "One nation under god"? And why is the song "Good bless America"? Well the title of our national anthem is literally God Defend New Zealand so I've got bad news for you if you ever try to
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Dec 18, 2021 22:59
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Medullah posted:In the comments of one of his "Bring back school prayer" posts, someone replied to my dad with "What do you think this does to Muslim children?", his response was "I don't care what god you pray to, as long as you pray in school!". Considering the reactions I've seen to allowing Muslim students to conduct their daily prayers in empty classrooms I'm gonna have hit the old "Doubt" button on that statement.
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Man, you reminded me of the fearmongering about Muslim prayer rugs on the Mexico border.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Jesus chiseled the Ten Commandments and the Constitution into Plymouth Rock Himself and the First Commandment is "Hurt people you don't like" That which you do unto the least among you, fucken rules make those assholes PAY for being poor and visually different -Jeezus
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You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, unless they vote for RINOs and Dems.
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Truly I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a librul not to kill a baby
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Twelve by Pies posted:Man, you reminded me of the fearmongering about Muslim prayer rugs on the Mexico border. I've seen this show up as a plot point in multiple places. Act of Valor had cartels smuggling terrorists with undetectable suicide vests.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:07
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 Reminds me of this classic from my local Facebook group.
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The Bible tells people not to swear any oaths; “let your yes be yes and your no be no” or something like that. Christians who have never cracked open their KJV editions probably have no idea.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The Bible tells people not to swear any oaths; “let your yes be yes and your no be no” or something like that. Christians who have never cracked open their KJV editions probably have no idea. That's most of them, so...
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The Bible tells people not to swear any oaths; “let your yes be yes and your no be no” or something like that. Christians who have never cracked open their KJV editions probably have no idea. This is apparently such a big deal that it's mentioned twice in the NT, and by Jesus specifically. Jesus himself speaks against it in Matthew 5: 33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but carry out the vows you have made to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 Let your word be ‘Yes, Yes’ or ‘No, No’; anything more than this comes from the evil one. James 5 says the same: 12 Above all, my beloved, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your “Yes” be yes and your “No” be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation. This of course is not even getting into the fact that swearing in on a Bible is not required by any US law, and this is likely at least partially due to the fact that some Christian denominations would actually consider it to be against their religious beliefs due to these very verses.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The Bible tells people not to swear any oaths; “let your yes be yes and your no be no” or something like that. Christians who have never cracked open their KJV editions probably have no idea. Nixon was a Quaker, wasn't he? Did he swear an oath of office? They're not big on that. Mind you they're also not big on drinking, swearing, or waging wars so I'm guessing he was pretty lapsed.
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Hypocritical Christians? Hmm... I dunno. Gonna need to some evidence first.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Nixon was a Quaker, wasn't he? Did he swear an oath of office? They're not big on that. Nixon (and Hoover) took oaths despite being Quaker. I don’t think either were serious adherents.
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Yeah, if someone is a politician, go ahead and assume that they ignore any major requirements of their faith. Multiple Christian religions have led lawsuits against the Pledge due to not pledging anything but to God.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Multiple Christian religions have led lawsuits against the Pledge due to not pledging anything but to God. Not gonna lie, swearing allegiance to a flag every morning is some creepy cult poo poo and it's boggles the mind that it's so common in the country (yet legally cannot be mandated).
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Clarste posted:Not gonna lie, swearing allegiance to a flag every morning is some creepy cult poo poo and it's boggles the mind that it's so common in the country (yet legally cannot be mandated). Reminder that the pledge was written as part of a campaign to sell flags to schools.
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It's so mundane and common that nobody cares about it. The words are meaningless lorem ipsum. No one actually considers themselves sworn to allegiance.
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I can attest that as a kid I didn't even understand what we were saying. Like I had no clue what the word "indivisible" meant until fourth or fifth grade.
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I pledjal-eejence t'the flag, Of th'nitedstatesamerica N to therapublic frRichard stans ONEation, UNder god, inVISible, With liberty n justice frall
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Gonna be Mx Predictable and post the sketch just on the off chance someone hasn't seen it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BfqDUPL1I
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NightGyr posted:Reminder that the pledge was written as part of a campaign to sell flags to schools. The only true religion, money.
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Brawnfire posted:frRichard stans Darn goons responsible for everything
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Just doing the pledge is too pedestrian, that's why kids don't get into it. I want to see a bunch of second graders do color guard.
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Weatherman posted:Well the title of our national anthem is literally God Defend New Zealand so I've got bad news for you if you ever try to New Zealand has mountains, so the Cold War-era tactic of driving a bunch of tanks across
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Medullah posted:snip fuuuuuuck you (your place) strong
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