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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Is that seriously the original plan for God of War? We were ROBBED.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Reminds me of the original plan for God of War: Kratos would team up with a Viking and Egyptian dude to kill off their respective pantheons, and then they see a star in the distance and go meet baby Jesus. loving amazing
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Reminds me of the original plan for God of War: Kratos would team up with a Viking and Egyptian dude to kill off their respective pantheons, and then they see a star in the distance and go meet baby Jesus. So in this version of them being the 3 Magi, would they be there to kill him in the crib or to nurture him to help kill others? I could see this going either way
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Aces High posted:So in this version of them being the 3 Magi, would they be there to kill him in the crib or to nurture him to help kill others? I could see this going either way Instead of gold, frankincense, and myrrh, they give him protein powder and some kettlebells.
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Data Graham posted:Cave Santa brought gifts of leaves and bark to all the good mammoths and hominids Does he turn the naughty ones into coal?
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Aces High posted:So in this version of them being the 3 Magi, would they be there to kill him in the crib or to nurture him to help kill others? I could see this going either way They mentor Jesus so he can become a vampire hunter, the game ends with everybody getting laid (tonight!). https://youtu.be/Jqo0ccrNJEc Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 20, 2021 |
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Timeless Appeal posted:My wife and I got back into our Disney rewatch and rewatched Pocahontas which is somehow much worse than I remember. A few random thoughts on it: Also, Christian Bale has been in two movies about Pocahontas.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:They mentor Jesus so he can become a vampire hunter, the game ends with everybody getting laid (tonight!). Always hacks me off when someone who purports to write lyrics for a living doesn't know how to conjugate "smite"
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Timeless Appeal posted:My wife and I got back into our Disney rewatch and rewatched Pocahontas which is somehow much worse than I remember. A few random thoughts on it: I did a rewatch with my girlfriend about a month back and it was honestly kind of fascinating how not good it was. Also, things like Mel Gibson's overly prominent presence, Pocahontas bring magically granted the power of language from nature, the entire story being based on an exaggerated tale from John Smith that happened when the actual Pocahontas was estimated to be 11 years old, etc., went all to starker relief knowing that Disney 100% expected this to be their major prestige film of the year, and the other animated film that they were working on simultaneously was a bit more of an afterthought. That other film being The Lion King. Also, today I learned that Pocahontas's original animal sidekick was going to be a turkey voiced by John Candy named Redfeather.....which is......  I will be honest, considering the movie as it is, I genuinely don't know whether this would have made things worse or better.
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I will say they got their musical mojo back with Hunchback. It's got some rough spots but holy hell "Out There" is some of the best stuff they've ever done. Then they lost it again with Hercules and beyond
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Data Graham posted:I will say they got their musical mojo back with Hunchback. It's got some rough spots but holy hell "Out There" is some of the best stuff they've ever done. You’re casting aspersions on the music in Hercules????? In this thread??????????? 
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I won’t say I’m in love is a bop
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Data Graham posted:I will say they got their musical mojo back with Hunchback. It's got some rough spots but holy hell "Out There" is some of the best stuff they've ever done.
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Hedrigall posted:I won’t say I’m in love is a bop Yup yup yup.
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Hunchback went full Prestiege Musical when their bread and butter has always been Catchy Bop Showtunes. As good as some of the songs are in Hunchback, they're utterly impossible to call up the way that Poor Unfortunate Souls is. As much as I love the idea of marrying Catholic liturgical songs with musical, it just doesn't make for humming music.
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Hedrigall posted:I won’t say I’m in love is a bop Yeah, true, rescinded.
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I actually think chasing memorable singles is what hurt Disney. Beauty and the Beast really verges on being an opera at times and just has a complexity that I'm not really sure I've seen in other Disney films. I didn't really realize as a kid that in Belle's song when she's singing about the plot of the book it's to the same melody as "Something There." I think Aladdin still maintains that a bit, but you really start losing musical cohesiveness in Lion King. Like it's fine because the songs are really good and the score is good, but it's not quite the same. It's the real transition away from almost constant singing and motifs to the characters just announcing, "It's time for a song now!"
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I know that for all my stanning for The Lion King my whole life, I was never that impressed with most of the songs; right from day one they struck me as "oh we're doing a song now" type interludes, and it didn't help that they were still flailing with the loss of Ashman. I don't care how legendary a lyricist Tim Rice is, his songs in Aladdin are dire compared to the Ashman ones. I am STILL not over the fact that they reprised Prince Ali with the line "Just a con, need I go on, take it from me". Ashman had written some G&S-esque counterpoint filigree and you took up the baton by putting in filler? How do you live with yourself? Jesus What TLK brought in spades however as the symphonic score. Hans Zimmer made his career that summer. And it was his influence and rearrangements that raised Circle of Life to something unprecedented and never again approached.
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FilthyImp posted:Hunchback went full Prestiege Musical when their bread and butter has always been Catchy Bop Showtunes. As good as some of the songs are in Hunchback, they're utterly impossible to call up the way that Poor Unfortunate Souls is. You say that but whenever Hellfire crosses my mind I’m singing the whole thing to myself.
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The music in Hercules is all great. A Star is Born, Zero to Hero, all the Gospel Truths. It’s immensely singable.
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JazzFlight posted:Out There never really clicked with me, but Hellfire is incredible. Probably why they play it so much in the score that it's practically the main theme of the movie even though it's the villain's song. It pretty much is Frollo's film.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I actually think chasing memorable singles is what hurt Disney. Beauty and the Beast really verges on being an opera at times and just has a complexity that I'm not really sure I've seen in other Disney films. I didn't really realize as a kid that in Belle's song when she's singing about the plot of the book it's to the same melody as "Something There." I think Aladdin still maintains that a bit, but you really start losing musical cohesiveness in Lion King. Like it's fine because the songs are really good and the score is good, but it's not quite the same. It's the real transition away from almost constant singing and motifs to the characters just announcing, "It's time for a song now!" That's what happens when you take a musical duo and get them to score your film. Every time Menken has scored a Disney musical all of the important connective tissue is there for the songs (and even in the interstitial parts, which is why the SCORE for Pocahontas is still good even if the film isn't) but if your lyricist isn't up to that standard you're gonna get first pass lyrics like "just a con, need I go on" or "they're not like you and me, which means they must be evil". If we ignore A Guy Like You (which we should) then the songs in Hunchback are a return to the form we had for Mermaid and BatB. I have no strong opinions on Hercules, because Motown and Gospel aren't my thing but everyone sells it so everything is still enjoyable
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Apologies if the dub trailer for Belle was already posted, but it's kind of bothering me? I remember mostly enjoying the other dubs of hosoda's movies, but this one sounds a little off. Like some casting sounds good, but the few lines in the trailer that should be synced to mouth motion seem really off. Is it just me? https://youtu.be/iLCjdAmsFWo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLCjdAmsFWo
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I've grown to like both styles, but if I had to pick one then I'm definitely more about the operatic cohesive stuff than the Broadway pop stuff.
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Aces High posted:That's what happens when you take a musical duo and get them to score your film. Every time Menken has scored a Disney musical all of the important connective tissue is there for the songs (and even in the interstitial parts, which is why the SCORE for Pocahontas is still good even if the film isn't) but if your lyricist isn't up to that standard you're gonna get first pass lyrics like "just a con, need I go on" or "they're not like you and me, which means they must be evil". If we ignore A Guy Like You (which we should) then the songs in Hunchback are a return to the form we had for Mermaid and BatB. Yeah Menken is a goddamn master and I really don't like Disney's recent trend of having the score composer and the singin' songs composer be different. There's like one taste of Menken/operatic-style cohesion in the Frozen 1 score and it's the best part, but the rest either plays off of cut songs or is just a different beast entirely. Meh. I haven't watched Encanto yet, I know LMM didn't do the score but does it at least vibe better? edit: My favorite Menken score has got to be Enchanted just because it's as much a pastiche of his own Disney scores as the movie itself is of Disney princess movies
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Galavant is really fun too because Menken scored it and apparently had a blast taking the piss out of himself.
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Data Graham posted:Galavant is really fun too because Menken scored it and apparently had a blast taking the piss out of himself. Genuinely one of my favorite shows ever, and has a few songs that I'd rate as among Menken's best. "What Am I Feeling" and "Will My Day Ever Come" are amazing. He's probably my favorite composer ever though. Used to teach my students about film scoring and the use of motifs using the Beauty and the Beast score.
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Kingtheninja posted:Apologies if the dub trailer for Belle was already posted, but it's kind of bothering me? I remember mostly enjoying the other dubs of hosoda's movies, but this one sounds a little off. Like some casting sounds good, but the few lines in the trailer that should be synced to mouth motion seem really off. Is it just me? I’ve heard really good things about this movie and this trailer makes me want to see it even more but on a very basic level I think it’s hilarious that Hosoda has been making movies about people fighting in the internet for two decades. I want to know if he tried to add an ending to Girl Who Lept Through Time where she has to fight someone in cyberspace edit: like Wargreymon could show up in that movie and I would not blink once
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Watched Hunchback with my wife and it's such a weird movie--in a good way! Hard agree of it being a return to the form of an actual cohesive musical although the vibe is very contemporary and reminds me of Webber in parts. Les Mis kind of hovers over it with Hellfire being emotionally pretty close to "Stars" even if the former is not as horny. One thing that I really, really liked though is that the character do genuinely feel like adults. The choices that Quasimodo has are hard, but he's never petty. His relationship with Phoebus is strained and awkward without ever being jerks to each other. It's also probably the most textual sex is in Disney. It really feels like it's going for a vibe that Pocahontas was also going for, but failed terribly at. It does though make the gargoyles more insufferable even if I like their song. It ranked super high for us and above Lion King which I was not expecting. Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Dec 22, 2021 |
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DC Murderverse posted:edit: like Wargreymon could show up in that movie and I would not blink once I mean how many movies can you say this about
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Digimon's aesthetic is so all over the place that you could slap WarGreymon into anything and I'd go "you know what, sure."
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I mean how many movies can you say this about at least three
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Roth posted:It would be my movie of the year if Wargreymon showed up I'd say this about almost any movie. I'm still disappointed we didn't get a Digimon in Smash Bros.
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he's the mac daddy dragon of the nyc ya heard
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Ron's Gone Wrong was enjoyable! Not sure exactly how I feel about the overall message, or the villain, but I like that Ron's "broken" nature isn't a detriment at the end.
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I watched it with my brother the other day and while we both agreed that the satire in Mitchells Vs the Machines was stronger, we did like how weird Rons Gone Wrong got. It kept going in directions we didn't really see coming and we enjoyed the ride for what it was.
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FilthyImp posted:Ron's Gone Wrong was enjoyable! It is currently my son’s obsession so I have seen it about eight times in the past few days. I am a sucker for robots and movies about robots, especially when the robots are people, and ultimately Ron’s Gone Wrong is about a robot gaining sentience and his “owner” learning how to cope with this. And then sentience is thrust upon 100 million/250 million (they use both numbers to say how many are out there) robots. Ron is absolutely adorable, but man, some of the humans are a little hard to look at. There’s just something off about them.
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Ron is absolutely adorable, but man, some of the humans are a little hard to look at. There’s just something off about them.
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:sentience is thrust upon 100 million/250 million (they use both numbers to say how many are out there) robots.
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