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Definitely Drowned in Sound. I remember they were as shocked to find a weird socialist space on the leftovers of a web-1.0 website as we were to find that this wasn't the only leftist politics space on the internet. I think Bread n Roses was an offsite set up by goons a while ago and got relatively popular during the "oshit Lowtax gonna close the forums" period before the buyout and his subsequent acute lead poisoning. e: gently caress, snipe. I always poo poo myself when I see a single post on a page thinking I've started a new thread like an idiot. in 1987 - "December – Fluoxetine, marketed as Prozac, is approved for use as an antidepressant in the United States by the Food and Drug Administration.", which seems relevant to the current doomposting. Surprise T Rex fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Dec 21, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:or the weird SEO bot site that took SA posts and added porn links and keywords? That's the real forum - what you're currently reading is the mirror site that removes all the fun raunchy stuff so people can browse forums during work. We're all v horny in every single post
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The thing about the Omicron variant is that it's incredibly fast moving - I've been checking on the stats in South Africa and it looks like it's already peaked there, with cases now dropping off sharply and without mountains of dead bodies, healthcare system collapsing etc. I reckon in the UK, cases are going to peak over the next week and be dropping off in the same way by January. I don't know exactly what that implies for hospitalisations, what with our older population vs South Africa's, but a lockdown seems pretty pointless now, as the infections are baked in at this point. (As an aside, I've been browing South African news websites before posting this and was surprised at just how little they mention Covid; there's stories about it but it's clearly not at the forefront of people's minds like it is here in the UK.)
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Pistol_Pete posted:The thing about the Omicron variant is that it's incredibly fast moving - I've been checking on the stats in South Africa and it looks like it's already peaked there, with cases now dropping off sharply and without mountains of dead bodies, healthcare system collapsing etc. I reckon in the UK, cases are going to peak over the next week and be dropping off in the same way by January. I don't know exactly what that implies for hospitalisations, what with our older population vs South Africa's, but a lockdown seems pretty pointless now, as the infections are baked in at this point. I saw something in another thread about how the London infection rate has completely dropped off for Omnicron, but that did come with the caveat of weekend lag and issues testing etc. Hospitalisations still haven't gone up significantly but as we're entering a period where elderly family members will be mixing with younger people who might be asymptomatic carriers, it's possible that we won't see the impact until early Jan
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Barry Foster posted:The western world has subsisted entirely on wishful/magical thinking and brushing things under the carpet for a long, long time now, and I'm not convinced even bodies piled in the streets will bring home the necessity of strong collective action to most people. Spoilered for doomposting You've very succinctly summed up my own feelings. It feels a bit like going insane, especially as adequate explanations fail me when trying to describe this poo poo to other people. Feels like a mix of anger and despondence is all I have lately.
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EvilHawk posted:I saw something in another thread about how the London infection rate has completely dropped off for Omnicron, but that did come with the caveat of weekend lag and issues testing etc. That's because of the new simplified testing in London (which I think might have been posted previously).    I'm out of isolation today and I feel invincible with all of these Omni-antibodies coursing through my veins.
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Comrade Fakename posted:lol Cook’d and Bomb’d are doing some good: lol wtf is this magazine  
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One thing re. the US employment problem is that the baby boomers were, in fact, a boom; there are larger numbers of them than the generation before or after. They were born from 1945 to 1964, smack in the middle is 1955, and if you add 65 to that you get 2020. They're all retiring and there are fewer younger people to take their place. The obvious answer to this is more immigration but, you know.
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Barry Foster posted:The western world has subsisted entirely on wishful/magical thinking and brushing things under the carpet for a long, long time now, and I'm not convinced even bodies piled in the streets will bring home the necessity of strong collective action to most people. I think it's starting to hit a lot of people square in the face, this year in particular. There are only so many months of deaths / fires / corruption / personal illness / culture war nonsense people can take in a row before it clicks that things haven't been right for a while.
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Deketh posted:Spoilered for doomposting As with dealing with any sort of abuse, the most important first step is reaching out to other people who have experienced what you've experienced, understand, and feel the same way that you do. So I'm glad that you've said this. It's normal to feel anger and despondence, and to feel like you're going insane. One of the first things we have to do is affirm solidarity with each other. None of us have to go through this alone, and it's better to face these things together than to allow ourselves to slip back into the roles that abuse forces us into. Convex posted:I think it's starting to hit a lot of people square in the face, this year in particular. There are only so many months of deaths / fires / corruption / personal illness / culture war nonsense people can take in a row before it clicks that things haven't been right for a while. I guess the question is what people will do about it. Either they'll demand better - better control of the virus, better conditions at work, better benefits, better for one another as well as themselves - or they'll double down on the wishful thinking and individualism, demand an end to all restrictions, testing, vaccinations, etc., and then reap the whirlwind. Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Dec 21, 2021 |
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Has anyone used the British version of Taco Bell? They're opening one in Newport and I'm wondering about people's opinion of it. We used to have a fairly nice Mexican restaurant in Newport but the owner died quite suddenly and it shut down.
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Barry Foster posted:As with dealing with any sort of abuse, the most important first step is reaching out to other people who have experienced what you've experienced, understand, and feel the same way that you do. So I'm glad that you've said this. 
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Convex posted:lol wtf is this magazine
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bessantj posted:Has anyone used the British version of Taco Bell? They're opening one in Newport and I'm wondering about people's opinion of it. We used to have a fairly nice Mexican restaurant in Newport but the owner died quite suddenly and it shut down. It's pretty decent. Not authentic by any means but you get a whole lot of food for your money from them.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Also on the subject of doomposting, I get far less pissed off by people discussing how bad it is than I am by the same poster saying "it's not bad, we don't know if it'll be bad" and then being proved wrong every loving wave. Like clockwork Pistol_Pete posted:The thing about the Omicron variant is that it's incredibly fast moving - I've been checking on the stats in South Africa and it looks like it's already peaked there, with cases now dropping off sharply and without mountains of dead bodies, healthcare system collapsing etc. I reckon in the UK, cases are going to peak over the next week and be dropping off in the same way by January. I don't know exactly what that implies for hospitalisations, what with our older population vs South Africa's, but a lockdown seems pretty pointless now, as the infections are baked in at this point.
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EvilHawk posted:I saw something in another thread about how the London infection rate has completely dropped off for Omnicron, but that did come with the caveat of weekend lag and issues testing etc.
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The BBC had an interesting segment on variants arising and had new findings by scientists in South Africa who, very cautiously, noted that immuno-compromised people are a fertile breeding ground for variants, and that in particular HIV/AIDS sufferers who aren't receiving treatment (either because they don't want to admit they have the disease or those who just don't know) should start receiving treatment ASAP. I say cautiously because the scientists also stressed that there's all kinds of causes of being immuno-compromised and that HIV/AIDS sufferers should not be stigmatised or blamed. Obviously it's a sensitive topic.
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bessantj posted:Has anyone used the British version of Taco Bell? They're opening one in Newport and I'm wondering about people's opinion of it. We used to have a fairly nice Mexican restaurant in Newport but the owner died quite suddenly and it shut down. I've walked past the one in Liverpool a couple of times and it always seemed dark and empty in there. It is next door to the cat cafe though so
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I don't know if it's still there but the one in Basildon looked and smelled rank. Never tried it though.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:It's pretty decent. Not authentic by any means but you get a whole lot of food for your money from them. Thanks, I'll give them a try. I haven't eaten a lot of Mexican food but what I have eaten has been great. Sakurazuka posted:I've walked past the one in Liverpool a couple of times and it always seemed dark and empty in there. Yeah, fair enough cat meat is really great.
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Barry Foster posted:As with dealing with any sort of abuse, the most important first step is reaching out to other people who have experienced what you've experienced, understand, and feel the same way that you do. So I'm glad that you've said this. Well said mate
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I try to cope with how hosed the world is by maintaining an absurdist mentality, always keeping in mind that each one of us is utterly inconsequential, nothing we do matters, the sun will one day burn out, and the universe will eventually undergo heat death. The evolution of our species and our planet up until this point and way beyond it is less than the blink of an eye from a cosmological standpoint. Just try to have fun, and do the best you can for those close to you. It's definitely harder now that I'm a parent, and difficult to be so blasé about my own daughters place in the universe, but I try.
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Tarnop posted:Like clockwork Well, South Africa's a few weeks ahead of us in this wave and when I checked today, not only was there no apocalypse there, nobody seemed to be worrying or thinking about it much at all, so make of that what you will 
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My coping mechanism is weed. Today is day 619 of an unbroken chain of waking and baking until bedtime.
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The Perfect Element posted:I try to cope with how hosed the world is by maintaining an absurdist mentality, always keeping in mind that each one of us is utterly inconsequential, nothing we do matters, the sun will one day burn out, and the universe will eventually undergo heat death. The evolution of our species and our planet up until this point and way beyond it is less than the blink of an eye from a cosmological standpoint. Just try to have fun, and do the best you can for those close to you. It is a nice way to put everything into perspective, i don't have any but children do alter the equation somewhat. 
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Deketh posted:Well said mate Thank you. fuctifino posted:My coping mechanism is weed. Today is day 619 of an unbroken chain of waking and baking until bedtime. 
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bessantj posted:Yeah, fair enough cat meat is really great. The shelter I got my cat from in Canning Town is only a couple of doors down from the ominously-named "Bargain Meat Centre".
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The Perfect Element posted:It's definitely harder now that I'm a parent, and difficult to be so blasé about my own daughters place in the universe, but I try. Don't be. Life is painful but full of joy and experiences. The abberation is that so many of us felt so safe for so long.
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After an intense Salvia experience about 10 years ago my believe in reality was so shattered that I now have no reaction deeper than "lmao that's hosed up" to anything bad that happens.
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Just remember - no matter how bad life gets, you'll probably still be able to play Doom on something.
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Sakurazuka posted:I've walked past the one in Liverpool a couple of times and it always seemed dark and empty in there. tacocat is a palindrome
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The thing is, a hard, relatively short China style lockdown combined with non-lovely contact tracing and vaccinations might well have worked to contain Covid, but that ship has sailed. Even then, the global context means we'd have about as much chance of eradicating it permanently as we do influenza. Perhaps with mass international cooperation, and importantly equitable cooperation, it could theoretically be done, but lol if that's going to happen. Reconfiguring covid as an endemic seasonal respiratory condition that can be mitigated and planned for is honestly probably the best strategy right now. It's what happens to most epidemic viruses eventually and we can definitely speed up the process with our response. The omicron case spike looks intimidating, but there is so far no evidence it's going to translate into mass deaths. The vaccines may not be as effective at preventing transmission, but they seem to be holding up at avoiding serious illness in most cases. We'll see for sure in a few weeks, I guess, but the long term strategy doesn't change. In any case, transitioning away from crisis footing to organisational adaptation is going to cause a great deal of anxiety to people who are still in the mindset that this will one day be 'over' in the sense of zero covid. Nonetheless, it's a process that needs to happen because the cycle of lockdowns isn't sustainable at all long term, and the knock on effects are potentially catastrophic. Every pitch black winter we're going to have a bunch of wealthy fuckers working from their home offices while the rest of us bring them stuff, are forced to work in supermarkets etc, or at best have to do our jobs from cramped HMOs, with nowhere to meet our friends afterwards and criminally prohibited from even going round theirs for a coffee, all while fully vaccinated? Aye, get to gently caress. Even if the government tried to enforce that now, which they shouldn't, people would not listen. But even if they did, it would hardly matter. Britain's 'lockdown', outside of a few overzealous coppers using it as an excuse to hassle ramblers and do racism, was never really meaningfully a lockdown. At best it was a glorified neighbourhood watch scheme. It's honestly not even clear that it did much at all to slow the spread of covid, the waves we saw could easily have been the natural ebbs and flows of the pandemic. Maybe it was better than nothing, maybe not, but we're certainly not going to eradicate the disease by doing the same thing over and over year after year. The bit many people seem to be missing here is that there are far better ways of curbing transmission as far as possible as part of a long term mitigation strategy. An effective tracing system, booster programmes, full mandated sick pay for isolation periods, investment in parallel health infrastructure to enable covid response to happen alongside usual NHS business etc, education efforts etc. I feel like all of the discourse around this is designed to encourage us to get mad at each other for perceived individual failures of responsibility or lack of empathy or whatever else, while completely letting the government - who hold all the cards - off the hook. It's neoliberal divide and rule 101. E: there's definitely something to be written about covid as the first true pandemic of the information age, and the way our global and interpersonal connectedness through social media etc has shaped our responses to the whole thing and the discourse around it. Could the antivaxxers have ever gained so much support in an era without twitter, I wonder? ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Dec 21, 2021 |
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keep punching joe posted:After an intense Salvia experience about 10 years ago my believe in reality was so shattered that I now have no reaction deeper than "lmao that's hosed up" to anything bad that happens. Erik? (For those who don't get the ref, Erik is the goon who did this infamous video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnwS5sPOzb0 and now does Internet Comment Ettiquette on Youtube)
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My rear axle has collapsed so I can't go see my family for Christmas. No hires available. Fuuck. Now I have to go wrestle my way through Tesco to get some spuds and whatnot for me to eat on my own. gently caress.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Erik? Erik loving rules so hard and if by some chance anyone ITT doesn't watch Internet Comment Etiquette, go watch it now Also all his old salvia videos are still hysterical, IMO at least
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Barry Foster posted:Erik loving rules so hard and if by some chance anyone ITT doesn't watch Internet Comment Etiquette, go watch it now I always wondered if the cat knew just how much psychic damage it caused by turning up at that exact moment. I strongly suspect it did, which is exactly why it did it. And "Excuse me... I have to go into space" is definitely one of the funniest lines in internet history.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I always wondered if the cat knew just how much psychic damage it caused by turning up at that exact moment. I strongly suspect it did, which is exactly why it did it. And "Excuse me... I have to go into space" is definitely one of the funniest lines in internet history. I always interpreted his facial expression when he sees the cat as surprise and wonderment rather than shock and terror, but it's an amazing moment either way. Honestly, he seems to have come out of it all just fine. I get the impression he's got the right psychological profile (something like "doesn't give a poo poo lol") to take the most brainmelting psychedelic/delirient in existence, on camera, for the internet, repeatedly, without winding up a gibbering wreck Lad sure loves a drink though, but gently caress it, who doesn't
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ThomasPaine posted:I feel like all of the discourse around this is designed to encourage us to get mad at each other for perceived individual failures of responsibility or lack of empathy or whatever else, while completely letting the government - who hold all the cards - off the hook. It's neoliberal divide and rule 101. Who here is letting the government off the hook?
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