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Ojetor posted:I'm guessing (Pandaemonium speculation) there's 100% going to be Lahabrea fight in some form in this raid series so they can give the final unsundered a proper fight after being killed billions of times as a joke boss in MSQ roulette. I unironically think he’s been possessed by a proto-Voidsent as a bit of irony considering he possess Thancred during his MSQ fight. Hence the way the raid seems to be set up narratively.
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yeah i freggin love warrior, especially learning new fights. lots of time between gcd's to move, pop defensives, all that jazz.
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Dec 21, 2021 18:50
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The raid loot icon for boots look exactly like pants because they're thigh highs so I rolled on the wrong item. I ALSO thought greaves meant pants, so today I learned 
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Dec 21, 2021 18:55
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I'm sorry, scions, but imma start taking my squadron instead of you all. Don't feel bad you're underperforming. After all, my squad was trained by the best (me) 
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Dec 21, 2021 19:11
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Lord_Magmar posted:I unironically think he’s been possessed by a proto-Voidsent as a bit of irony considering he possess Thancred during his MSQ fight. Hence the way the raid seems to be set up narratively. I'm thinking psycho future Lahabrea hitched a ride with you somehow and possessed his past self during your initial visit Wild speculation: the fourth boss and the lyrics to the fourth boss's music makes me think future bosses in the raid will also be refs to popular non-Square PS1 games
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Dec 21, 2021 19:29
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My guess is Themis is Elidibus.
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Dec 21, 2021 19:32
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Ojetor posted:I'm guessing (Pandaemonium speculation) there's 100% going to be Lahabrea fight in some form in this raid series so they can give the final unsundered a proper fight after being killed billions of times as a joke boss in MSQ roulette. I think Erich will become the Lahabrea we know.
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Dec 21, 2021 19:36
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Mr. Nice! posted:My guess is Themis is Elidibus. Andrew Verse posted:I think Erich will become the Lahabrea we know. I think Themis and Erich are totally Gaia and Ryne round two but as a hyper competent pretty boy and a self conscious pretty boy. They look about the same age given their respective heights (compared to Hades and Hythlodaeus based on the extreme scientific method of they’re about my height and H&H were a head taller than me).
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Dec 21, 2021 19:42
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Ojetor posted:I'm guessing (Pandaemonium speculation) there's 100% going to be Lahabrea fight in some form in this raid series so they can give the final unsundered a proper fight after being killed billions of times as a joke boss in MSQ roulette. (More Pandaemonium speculation, includes EW stuff) I had an intial theory right when they plopped Lahabrea's face right on the reveal of the new raid that this dude isn't dead because how to kill an Ascian is very well established and his "death" didn't qualify. It is explicitly a two-step process you need to trap an Ascian soul in a prison so it can't escape to the rift, then hit it with a very strong blast of aether to dissipate the soul. Nabriales needed white auracite and Moenbryda's aether to die. Igeyorhm needed white auracite and a dragon's eye. Emet-selch needed white auracite and all the Light-aspected aether we had picked up in the first. Fandaniel breaks the pattern a bit but sticking himself into Zodiark may very well qualify for Step 1 and Zodiark blowing up is probably Step 2. Plus, the dude wanted to die and might have simply not tried to save himself like another Ascian would. Lahabrea gets absorbed by Ascalon at the end of Heavensward and that's it. We even have a roughly equivalent comparison to what happened to Lahabrea with Elidibus, who gets absorbed by the entire Crystal Tower - G'Raha even makes the point that the tower is effectively a giant white auracite - and EW's story shows this didn't kill Elidibus. He was still there and doesn't really "die" until he used up the rest of his own aether getting us to Elpis. It has to be one massive Chekhov's Gun that the process is so well explained, Lahabrea didn't qualify for the whole process, and yet we don't hear anything from him.
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Dec 21, 2021 19:53
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Flavahbeast posted:I'm thinking psycho future Lahabrea hitched a ride with you somehow and possessed his past self during your initial visit I'm sad that it wasn't an official crossover because do I ever want to hear Soken's Bloody Tears.
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Dec 21, 2021 20:01
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Meiteron posted:(More Pandaemonium speculation, includes EW stuff) I had an intial theory right when they plopped Lahabrea's face right on the reveal of the new raid that this dude isn't dead because how to kill an Ascian is very well established and his "death" didn't qualify. It is explicitly a two-step process you need to trap an Ascian soul in a prison so it can't escape to the rift, then hit it with a very strong blast of aether to dissipate the soul. Nabriales needed white auracite and Moenbryda's aether to die. Igeyorhm needed white auracite and a dragon's eye. Emet-selch needed white auracite and all the Light-aspected aether we had picked up in the first. Fandaniel breaks the pattern a bit but sticking himself into Zodiark may very well qualify for Step 1 and Zodiark blowing up is probably Step 2. Plus, the dude wanted to die and might have simply not tried to save himself like another Ascian would. Ascian souls are still just aether. Nothing shields them from getting absorbed by a dragon's eye and then consumed. In his case, his aether was exhausted creating Shinryu and destroyed by Estinian post-menagerie.
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Dec 21, 2021 20:01
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Mr. Nice! posted:Ascian souls are still just aether. Nothing shields them from getting absorbed by a dragon's eye and then consumed. In his case, his aether was exhausted creating Shinryu and destroyed by Estinian post-menagerie. Which is precisely what was happening to Elidibus, we just expedited the process
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Dec 21, 2021 20:04
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Meiteron posted:(More Pandaemonium speculation, includes EW stuff) I had an intial theory right when they plopped Lahabrea's face right on the reveal of the new raid that this dude isn't dead because how to kill an Ascian is very well established and his "death" didn't qualify. It is explicitly a two-step process you need to trap an Ascian soul in a prison so it can't escape to the rift, then hit it with a very strong blast of aether to dissipate the soul. Nabriales needed white auracite and Moenbryda's aether to die. Igeyorhm needed white auracite and a dragon's eye. Emet-selch needed white auracite and all the Light-aspected aether we had picked up in the first. Fandaniel breaks the pattern a bit but sticking himself into Zodiark may very well qualify for Step 1 and Zodiark blowing up is probably Step 2. Plus, the dude wanted to die and might have simply not tried to save himself like another Ascian would. Even though I see this argument here and there, I'm not too convinced. (EW ending stuff) You're largely right, except for considering what happens at the end of HW. Getting absorbed by Ascalon isn't the end. Ascalon reverts back into one of Nidhogg's eyes, where it and its twin are picked up by Estinien, and he falls to Nidhogg's corruption. After that, Nidhogg's got his aether. Then, after we kill Nidhogg the eyes are thrown into the Abyss where they're frozen. They remain that way until Ilberd uses them to summon Shinryu, which is taken over by Zenos and becomes a part of him. Then Zenos uses all of that aether, plus whatever's left from the Mothercrystal, to get to Ultima Thule and fight us, where he dies. During that entire time Lahabrea is stuck in the Eye and his and the Eyes' aether are all being used to power every step of the way, possibly being used up entirely halfway through. Lahabrea's dead.
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Dec 21, 2021 20:09
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Mr. Nice! posted:Ascian souls are still just aether. Nothing shields them from getting absorbed by a dragon's eye and then consumed. In his case, his aether was exhausted creating Shinryu and destroyed by Estinian post-menagerie. So if Elidibus was still a conscious soul trapped in the tower, that means Lahabrea was trapped inside the eye seeing everything going on around him until that battery got discharged. lol
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Dec 21, 2021 20:15
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Onean posted:Even though I see this argument here and there, I'm not too convinced. (EW ending stuff) You're largely right, except for considering what happens at the end of HW. Getting absorbed by Ascalon isn't the end. Ascalon reverts back into one of Nidhogg's eyes, where it and its twin are picked up by Estinien, and he falls to Nidhogg's corruption. After that, Nidhogg's got his aether. Then, after we kill Nidhogg the eyes are thrown into the Abyss where they're frozen. They remain that way until Ilberd uses them to summon Shinryu, which is taken over by Zenos and becomes a part of him. Then Zenos uses all of that aether, plus whatever's left from the Mothercrystal, to get to Ultima Thule and fight us, where he dies. I would offer one observation, though, as your line of reasoning has one error: Nidhogg's Eyes persist only to the end of Stormblood. The full path is Ascalon -> Eyes -> Shinryu, but once Shinryu is destroyed the game makes it a point to show that the Eyes still exist, lying on the ground in the royal menagerie, until Estinien shows up in the epilogue and destroys them. This raises the question, though - does Estinien destroying the Eyes there also destroy Lahabrea, or just his prison?
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Meiteron posted:I would offer one observation, though, as your line of reasoning has one error: Nidhogg's Eyes persist only to the end of Stormblood. The full path is Ascalon -> Eyes -> Shinryu, but once Shinryu is destroyed the game makes it a point to show that the Eyes still exist, lying on the ground in the royal menagerie, until Estinien shows up in the epilogue and destroys them. I'd say they're just the prison by then. It's not stated by the game, but I'm assuming that any aether that wasn't consumed in the Shinryu fight is now Zenos's as an explanation for why he can take Shinryu's form for the end of EW. The Eyes after the fight are just empty husks, waiting to recharge from the ambient aether, which is why Estinien was able to destroy them when they couldn't be destroyed before then.
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Onean posted:I'd say they're just the prison by then. It's not stated by the game, but I'm assuming that any aether that wasn't consumed in the Shinryu fight is now Zenos's as an explanation for why he can take Shinryu's form for the end of EW. The Eyes after the fight are just empty husks, waiting to recharge from the ambient aether, which is why Estinien was able to destroy them when they couldn't be destroyed before then. I would say The Resonance/False Echo explains turning into Shinryu fine. Basically he used a bunch of Aether to transform the way Hades/Hermes did. After all the Echo is meant to be Ancient Aether/Soul powers.
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Got lucky and one-shot P1-P4 with randos. Enjoyed it! Difficulty felt not unlike O1-O4. Wouldn't be shocked if the creature designer was watching (P4 aesthetic) Castlevania on Netflix when sketching them out. The narrative seems okay. Right now I feel less of a personal stake in it than I did with Eden or Coil, but I still want to see where it goes.
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So I ended up encountering a Marauder that forgot to use AOE despite having it by the time you can get to the first Dungeon (though I'm certain that he started using it at the end) and a Conjurer who only healed said Marauder and nothing else ,even when there were adds in the final dungeon boss targeting him, he just moved away instead of doing something like attack them. They're not as bad as the literal bot as the Tank during a Roulette as an Archer but I don't think alot of things could top that. Anyway, got all but Thaumaturge and Conjurer to 30, unlocking their Jobs. The recent one was Archer where through hard work and being accepting towards others, the hard-assed Silvairre starts to respect other people and-  No wait, he's still racist, nevermind. He didn't learn poo poo outside of thinking I'm alright I guess. Yeah, Archer is probably the weakest story out of all the Class quests that I've done because I think they mixed up or mistook the fact that Silvairre was supposed to be a hard-rear end because he didn't want others to gently caress up like he did but instead they just made him racist (or at least, just a plain rear end in a top hat) towards people that didn't live in Gridania which isn't the same thing.
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Mr. Nice! posted:My guess is Themis is Elidibus. That's not a mystery, it's basically stated. He has a white robe, refers to being part of the convocation and in the teaser he even had Elidibus' voice.
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Dec 21, 2021 20:37
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well there is one undeniable truth we now know thanks to these new adventures Lahahrea fucks.
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lmao when the keyward for asphodelos shows up in the raids I was like...vampire? And then before P4, Erichthonios confirms "yeah, vampire." Wonder if any connection to Voidsent/RDM quest line (assume no, but you never know!) e: learning these raids blind rocked honestly. haven't had the chance to try that yet in FFXIV. maybe tonight I'll make a blind-learning PF for one of the EX trials... Valentin fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Dec 21, 2021 |
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SirSamVimes posted:That's not a mystery, it's basically stated. He has a white robe, refers to being part of the convocation and in the teaser he even had Elidibus' voice. (zone 5 spoilers) Venat says that the white robes are for either Elidibus or retired convocation members, right? I could've sworn someone tells you that outright but I can't find the line so I assume it's not cutscene dialogue.
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Valentin posted:(zone 5 spoilers) Venat says that the white robes are for either Elidibus or retired convocation members, right? I could've sworn someone tells you that outright but I can't find the line so I assume it's not cutscene dialogue. I think it's Emet who tells you, but yeah the white robes are for the seat of Elidibus or any (possibly only ex-?)government official that can be trusted to mediate matters impartially.
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Dec 21, 2021 20:46
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Valentin posted:(zone 5 spoilers) Venat says that the white robes are for either Elidibus or retired convocation members, right? I could've sworn someone tells you that outright but I can't find the line so I assume it's not cutscene dialogue. Aside from Elidibus's robes, It's from Emet-Selch, when Venat first shows up. I think Elidibus explains his white robes way back in ARR when he and the WoL first talk, though I can't double check right now.
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Pyro Jack posted:
Good news: once you become Bard you don't need to deal with those jerks ever again.
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Pandaemonium main companion: In addition to everything else that has been said, Themis is introduced as "Confused Boy" - that is to say he's noticeably younger than the other Ancients we've been hanging around with. Which is also one of the traits we know about Elidibus.
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Bozja: I feel like I'm losing my mind. I'm playing Bard in Bozja, why does my attack range randomly drop to 0? I've had longer attack ranges on melee characters, and it's driving me nuts. E: I think I might have hosed up a character config thing. King of Solomon fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 21, 2021 |
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Regy Rusty posted:Pandaemonium main companion: In addition to everything else that has been said, Themis is introduced as "Confused Boy" - that is to say he's noticeably younger than the other Ancients we've been hanging around with. Which is also one of the traits we know about Elidibus. Also, again he shows up in the stinger talking with Elidibus’s voice. At this point it would be a twist if he wasn’t our Elidibus.
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King of Solomon posted:Bozja: I feel like I'm losing my mind. I'm playing Bard in Bozja, why does my attack range randomly drop to 0? I've had longer attack ranges on melee characters, and it's driving me nuts. Do you have automatically turn to face enemy turned off
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Dryzen posted:Do you have automatically turn to face enemy turned off Yeah, when I turned that back on after realizing it might be a config thing, it got fixed.
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Everyone who predicted the queues would be worse today was absolutely right. Obviously I can't speak for the evening yet, but while the morning/early afternoon were still fine, the late afternoon queue is considerably worse than it was yesterday. Tbf yesterday was easily the best day since launch, and there's a pretty good chance it'll dwindle back pretty quickly given the weekly loot lockout, so it's not going to be like release again or anything.
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Queue seems...faster I guess? Less people avoiding disconnects I guess? In the 15 -20 minutes I've been on quueue its gone down around 500-600, usually I was getting about 1k an hour last week.
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It's LP Update time! Tune in to read all about me getting really unhappy at the story's direction for the first time, and then try to convince myself I was SUPPOSED to not be happy
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New raid was fun, though the second fight was annoying because our healers had trouble staying alive. I did enjoy the final pull on the last fight. Every pull in which you last long enough to get two LB3s is a good pull.
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Hellioning posted:New raid was fun, though the second fight was annoying because our healers had trouble staying alive. Two LB3s?? Crikey how long did your attempts last?
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Man, that last fight is ROUGH. Hey FF devs I would like it if you would take a break now on the "the outside of the boss arena auto kills you" now. That's enough of that. Also Summoners get your FATASS TITAN OUT OF MY FACE 
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Macaluso posted:Also Summoners get your FATASS TITAN OUT OF MY FACE No, you be nicer to my Titan! He's just here to help!
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Macaluso posted:Man, that last fight is ROUGH. /petsize is under your control, not theirs. OTOH, all non-lala characters: get your assess out of my face,
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