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Why don't they make more picross 3d. Seems like it's what the people want
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Spring Break My Heart posted:It's a remake with online multiplayer!
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Dec 21, 2021 21:43
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check out Voxelgram if you want a clunky version of picross 3d without any personality and with monotonously tedious puzzles.
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Dec 21, 2021 21:54
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Yeah I've played it. Very much a mom: we have picross 3d at home experience
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Dec 21, 2021 21:57
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That's rather harsh for Voxelgram. It's a fine clone and yeah it lacks a lot of the charm, but the puzzles are good. I also appreciated the lack of a fail state. I bothered to perfect Picross 3D 1 and 2 and it was always annoying when I miss hit a block by accident.Hammer Bro. posted:Hmm. I was gonna put it in the don't-have-time category but those details put it on the DekuDeals and then we'll see list. I'm just super amped for Triangle Strategy and saw this on sale so I bit. I got the base game for 10-12 euro I think? It was a nice surprise. I just beat it this afternoon, so I'll devote my energy to Transistor now. If I can wrap that up and some of the older Metroids, then I think I'll pick Dread, with that done, I can then either trade in Skyward Sword for I'm thinking 3D World, or start Subnautica. All the while I'll be plugging away at FFX. I don't know what mood one has to be in to start Subnautica though. Also, is Disco Elysium a one and done game or does it have staying power/replayability? It's a question regarding whether or not I download it or get it physically.
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Dec 21, 2021 22:42
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No Mods No Masters posted:Why don't they make more picross 3d. Seems like it's what the people want Guess they would have to make it undocked only- have there been any other games that really rely on the touchscreen? EDIT: How does Voxelgram do the 3D Picross controls?
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Dec 21, 2021 22:50
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Speaking of Picross… https://twitter.com/boommike/status/1473393083899269123?s=21 Then I saw that S4 is on sale right now, so grabbed that… seems like the most logical next game with the unlockable puzzles with S1/S2/S3 data.
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Dec 21, 2021 22:53
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Monkey Fracas posted:How does Voxelgram do the 3D Picross controls? They’re weird but you’ll get used to them.
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Dec 21, 2021 23:32
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I don't know what mood one has to be in to start Subnautica though. Subnautica straddles a strange line between chill/relaxing and nope nope nope. Probably 80% of the time chill but man those nopes hit hard. Last I asked (kinda recently) Disco Elysium still had some rough edges on the Switch to the point where I'm either going physical or Steam Deck. (I also haven't opened Christmas SMT:V or $3 SR:IV so I'm not jonesin'.)
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Dec 21, 2021 23:34
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Also, is Disco Elysium a one and done game or does it have staying power/replayability? It's a question regarding whether or not I download it or get it physically. Depends on how much you like the writing and aesthetics, I think. One playthrough can get you most of the main story and a satisfying amount of the characters and worldbuilding, but there is a lot of variability to both how you can build your character and to your dialogue options (particularly political alignments) that mean you can see a fairly robust variety of dialogue, situations, and endings depending on how you play. If you only just like the game and its writing, one playthrough is probably gonna be enough for you. If you fall in love with the writing and the world they've built, there's definitely enough there to go back for seconds. I really enjoyed it, so much so that I toyed with the idea of starting a new run immediately after finishing, before deciding it would probably be better to wait a few months and forget some of the details and story beats first. Most of my playtime was on the original Switch version, before the first patch. There was some low framerates in certain areas, and I had a couple of crashes during a 30+ hour run, but it was playable. Load times were my biggest complaint. The first patch came out only a little before I finished my playthrough, it reportedly resolved some of the crashes, and the framerate and load times were both improved, though still not perfect. (The load times were still annoyingly long for how frequent they are at some points in the game, but also not a dealbreaker, IMO.)
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Dec 21, 2021 23:56
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I'll have to give it more time because maybe I'm just missing something/many things, but goddamn Saints Row IV is terrible. Ive only played on pc, so maybe the switch version is super hosed, but in terms of gameplay mechanics its literally one of the greatest games ever made
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Dec 22, 2021 01:12
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Astro7x posted:Speaking of Picross…
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was having a good time on mega picross, then got stuck on the 4th puzzle. Mega picross sucks rear end again. gently caress you!
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mandatory lesbian posted:Ive only played on pc, so maybe the switch version is super hosed, but in terms of gameplay mechanics its literally one of the greatest games ever made Please explain further.
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Dec 22, 2021 01:22
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Also, is Disco Elysium a one and done game or does it have staying power/replayability? It's a question regarding whether or not I download it or get it physically. Interactions radically change based on the stats you pick, so it's definitely got replayability.
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Dec 22, 2021 01:31
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Is Picross like Sudoku or something? Is that a decent comparison? Trying to figure out if I’d enjoy it.
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Dec 22, 2021 01:37
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RCarr posted:Is Picross like Sudoku or something? Is that a decent comparison? Sort of. The left side and top side of the puzzle will have numbers which tell you how many dots are in a group in that column or row. So if a row has "2 4 5" on the left, that means there is a group of 2 dots, a group of 4, dots, and a group of 5 dots. But it does not tell you where they are int he row, but they will appear in the order listed. So it's not a group of 2, then 5, then 4, it is only 2, 4, and 5. To figure out where the dots are, you can either determine that there is only one possible configuration and fill those in, or you use hints from other columns or rows to figure out that there has to be a dot in one spot, because of this column, or this row can not have a dot in this spot, which means this column doesn't have anything in that spot either, and then now you can fill in some dots based on that. It's a logic puzzle.
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Dec 22, 2021 01:41
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Sounds pretty similar. Where should I start? Picross S1?
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RCarr posted:Sounds pretty similar. Where should I start? Picross S1? Yes, or a free picross game on your phone to get down the logic and to see if it's for you. But otherwise, S1 for sure.
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Dec 22, 2021 01:49
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If you have NSO you can try Mario's Super Picross on the SNES app for free, but without any translation or QOL features of the later games it might not be the best starting point. Otherwise yeah, S1 is really bare bones but it's also a perfect example of modern Picross.
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Dec 22, 2021 01:49
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I actually found mario picross relatively easy to navigate and play despite being in japanese. It was very cute and lo-fi. Your mileage may vary though. S1 doesn't have a lot of fancy poo poo (apart from the dog poo poo mega picross for IDIOTS) but i'm enjoying it (see previous parenthesis) I might do that thing where I post where I'm stuck on mega picross and ask goons for obtuse clues tbh. Its just a bit embarrassing after doing 40x30 magazine picross puzzles to get stuck on a 10x10 mega picross
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Dec 22, 2021 01:52
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I bounced off Mega hard but went back a while ago and it finally just clicked. Sometimes they're actually easier than the standard puzzles because of the information that can be gleaned from the mega lines, but overall I'd say they're slightly trickier yeah. Just gotta learn the techniques and get used to using them. I always play No Assist which makes it difficult to learn, but if you use the assist mode that highlights rows in blue where something can be deduced it might help you grasp the strategies better.
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Dec 22, 2021 01:57
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picross is so loving boring but perfectly so
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Dec 22, 2021 02:06
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Blotto_Otter posted:Depends on how much you like the writing and aesthetics, I think. One playthrough can get you most of the main story and a satisfying amount of the characters and worldbuilding, but there is a lot of variability to both how you can build your character and to your dialogue options (particularly political alignments) that mean you can see a fairly robust variety of dialogue, situations, and endings depending on how you play. Sounds like a download. Thanks!
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Dec 22, 2021 02:09
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Someone said A Robot Named Fight is down to 2 bucks which is what I paid for it. That took me some 50 hours before I ran out of steam playing (not-so) randomly generated Super Metroid. It's pretty great for what it is, but it's not excellent. You will die a lot, you don't get nearly enough life at the beginning and it can feel a bit repetitive, but it plays like Super Metroid so I don't know how much more you need
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Dec 22, 2021 03:12
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A ton of the Picross S games on the Switch come with a demo that have a variety of different puzzle sizes. Get that and try it. Don't download some lovely nanogram game for free on your phone that plays like poo poo
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Dec 22, 2021 03:41
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:I actually found mario picross relatively easy to navigate and play despite being in japanese. It was very cute and lo-fi. Your mileage may vary though. There are two things that makes Mario Picross hard for me to deal with after playing the S series games. One is that the cursor doesn't wrap around, when you hit the edge of the puzzle your cursor stops, and you have to go back the long way. To make matters worse, when you're on the left and top edges of the puzzle, moving your cursor further (a force of habit when you expect the cursor to wrap around) will instead move onto the numbers, which is also annoying. The second thing is that holding down a button and moving the cursor will overwrite other marks, it's annoying to try and quickly mark Xs on empty squares only to overwrite a square I marked as being filled earlier. Neither of these make the game unplayable or anything, I'm still slowly working my way through Mario Picross despite them, but they are a bit annoying.
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Dec 22, 2021 03:47
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I don't know how people play Picross games without a "mark" feature or whatever. The way I make most of my initial fills is by laying out both possibilities for a line in marks and then change them to fills whenever they overlap. It's too hard to keep track of the spaces in my head otherwise.
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Dec 22, 2021 03:55
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Mega Picross is great. It’s exactly the same type of logic but the rules are different. There’s a learning curve, and you could be the worlds best traditional Picross player but suck miserably at mega. But if you keep at it you’ll eventually figure out the tricks and shortcuts just like you did with regular, and it’ll eventually become no harder than regular. People who like regular but don’t even try mega beyond a handful of puzzles are doing themselves a disservice. Here’s a hint to get you started. If you have a column or row with a blob and a number, you can automatically x off that number from the adjacent column or row. This one concept will get you through the first 30 or so puzzles and by then you should be picking up on some others.
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Dec 22, 2021 03:57
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what do you mean by "blob"? I think you might be referring to the fact that mega clue squares can't touch mega clue squares, but its not exactly clear. I also am not sure how helpful that is when it seems like its almost universally easier to get regular clues first and then check to see how that impacts what mega clues you can solve. Am I missing something?
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Dec 22, 2021 04:07
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I think Pirate Captain is talking about when you have two rows combined and a regular number on the end, and then a blob next to it. On the row that has the regular number, you can go to the adjacent row it is combined with and then blank out that many squares, because you know the blob can't touch the line, so none of those squares can be filled in. The blob being the number that applies to both rows.
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Dec 22, 2021 04:12
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A blob is just what I call a clue that crosses 2 rows or columns. Mega clues, or whatever. So let’s say you have a set of columns with a mega clue/blob of 7 and then a 5 in the left column, you can mark 5 x’s in the right column at the bottom. That and normal Picross rules will get you through a lot of the early levels. Edit: if there are puzzles people are stuck on, I’m sure plenty of us would be willing to help explain the logic if you post a screenshot.
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Dec 22, 2021 04:14
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oh yep ok I understand now. I'll pick it up again and see how that helps me get past the 4th puzzle or whatever embarrassing point I got to
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Dec 22, 2021 04:15
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:oh yep ok I understand now. I'll pick it up again and see how that helps me get past the 4th puzzle or whatever embarrassing point I got to Good luck!
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Dec 22, 2021 04:27
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 So from what I can tell this is where I should be using the mega clues to be able to fill in extra squares but I'm stuck. The only thing I can think of is that I can assume the block one up from the bottom row is absolutely part of the 4 blob. Am I wrong in assuming the 2 blob can sit on one row, did I miss something in the tutorial? And is there anything I can reliably infer about the other 4 blob I don't have any squares for that I might not be getting?
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Dec 22, 2021 04:28
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:
Per my earlier tip, you can X out the top right square, though that doesn’t much help here. But look at that 2 4 combo. With the one square you have now, there’s only one possibility for where those 2 could be. The 2 blob has to sit vertically - all blobs MUST use both rows or columns.
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Dec 22, 2021 04:31
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:
If a 2 blob were in one row, it would just be a normal 2!
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Dec 22, 2021 04:32
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A 2 in a mega line has to be 2 fills side by side with X's all around. Since there's one fill in your mega line with an X next to it that means that fill is part of the mega 4. Using this info you can find the actual location of the mega 2.
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Dec 22, 2021 04:32
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The Pirate Captain posted:all blobs MUST use both rows or columns. ok excellent I absolutely missed that part of the tutorial. That helps a lot.
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:
The two blob definitely has to be, in this case, two blocks vertically, on the far left. I'm not that great with mega but one of the main things that I've learned is that a 2 blob means one block of either row (if it's a horizontal clue) or column (if it's vertical) are right next to each other. The fact that it's a mega clue means that it has to stretch over two rows (for horizontal) or columns (for vertical), so you can't have it any other way.
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