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Schnorkles posted:In general, I think most professional virologists, immunologists, etc. would recommend that the correct strategy is not to get in an arms race between our immune systems and a virus, but that appears to be what we're doing. 20,000 year war
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My friend from India got the useless Astrazeneca vaccine and was kind of freaking out about how to explain the situation to the nice folks at CVS. I told him to just say he's un-vaccinated, since he essentially is. And he's not in an American database anywhere, as far as they're concerned, he's fully eligible for mRNA shot number one.
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CottonWolf posted:Have an EAVE II report. https://www.ed.ac.uk/usher/eave-ii/key-outputs/our-publications/vaccine-protection-wanes-after-three-months that's a good read
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 19:53 |
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Schnorkles posted:In general, I think most professional virologists, immunologists, etc. would recommend that the correct strategy is not to get in an arms race between our immune systems and a virus, but that appears to be what we're doing. And yet patients will demand it the moment they get a runny nose and doctors will prescribe it to them.
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Stereotype posted:a million people infected a day yields 10k deaths a day at a 1% ifr so it’s pretty scary that the news is predicting that absolutely catastrophic scenario as if it is both acceptable and inescapable. Nothing to be done. Anyone for ice cream?
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 19:53 |
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okay, found the best source for this i could. UK data on the age adjusted fatality rate during delta suggests that the vaccines reduce your rate of dying from covid from 6% (unvaxxed) to 2% (breakthrough infection) if you're 50+ you'd obviously much rather be vaccinated with this, but if it is mostly the protection against infection that's driving the death reduction, and the 2% CFR remains where it is, but the breakthrough number goes way up... https://mobile.twitter.com/bencowling88/status/1425085500105232387
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Golli posted:It's a big drug, some people say its the biggest ever. You wouldn't believe how big. Many people are saying it. a big drug can only be prescribed by a big pharma
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Schnorkles posted:In general, I think most professional virologists, immunologists, etc. would recommend that the correct strategy is not to get in an arms race between our immune systems and a virus, but that appears to be what we're doing. Right, it's unwinnable because we can't iterate as fast as it can, the only way out is for humans to get selected so strongly for covid resilience over many many generations, but the modern world is so capable of rendering itself uninhabitable in the death spasms of our brittle society (and we are locked in for climate uninhabitability without geoengineering) and so we can't afford that at all.
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Animal-Mother posted:My friend from India got the useless Astrazeneca vaccine and was kind of freaking out about how to explain the situation to the nice folks at CVS. I told him to just say he's un-vaccinated, since he essentially is. And he's not in an American database anywhere, as far as they're concerned, he's fully eligible for mRNA shot number one. https://i.imgur.com/cYK4OYn.mp4
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Golli posted:It's a big drug, some people say its the biggest ever. You wouldn't believe how big. Many people are saying it. brute force medicine, usually.
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Stereotype posted:a million people infected a day yields 10k deaths a day at a 1% ifr so it’s pretty scary that the news is predicting that absolutely catastrophic scenario as if it is both acceptable and inescapable. 3 billion over the next 3 months. https://i.imgur.com/LOEs7s6.mp4 (mute off) Absolutely loving IHME this am for adding the dramatic and dire predictions, and music!
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 19:54 |
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Got my illicit Moderna "booster" (a full shot) August 14 (first two Pfizer doses in March). Getting an actual Moderna booster tomorrow. Anyone see anything wrong with this?
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 19:55 |
so let me get this straight, antivaxxers on their death beds are going to be prescribed a pill that might actually do what they thought the vaccine would do? lol
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 19:56 |
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President KaMAMAla.
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Google Butt posted:so let me get this straight, antivaxxers on their death beds are going to be prescribed a pill that might actually do what they thought the vaccine would do? lol more or less
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 19:56 |
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Cup Runneth Over posted:10% positivity rate is your answer right there They always seem to undercount the positivity rate too - my county health department has it's own COVID page and right now says we are at about 20% positivity rate for the last week, but if I go to the state page that has information by county it says we are at like 12% in my county for the last week. So 10% is probably a very optomistic count for the actual number.
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2.5 hours of work left this year, I just want to go home
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Thoguh posted:They always seem to undercount the positivity rate too - my county health department has it's own COVID page and right now says we are at about 20% positivity rate for the last week, but if I go to the state page that has information by county it says we are at like 12% in my county for the last week. So 10% is probably a very optomistic count for the actual number. that's a 14 day positivity rate on the graph, so it hasnt caught up yet.
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Blitter posted:Haha, remember Tom Peacock? haha i guess it's probably impossible to distinguish a delta/omicron recombinant from co-existing delta/omicron infections, using Illumina short-read sequencing coming to an oxford nanopore technologies brochure near you
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 19:59 |
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TheLemonOfIchabod posted:Got my illicit Moderna "booster" (a full shot) August 14 (first two Pfizer doses in March). Getting an actual Moderna booster tomorrow. Anyone see anything wrong with this? Yeah, that I am not also getting a 4th shot tomorrow.
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:01 |
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Golli posted:that's a 14 day positivity rate on the graph, so it hasnt caught up yet. lol, it used to be last 7 days, they must have changed it recently when positivity started spiking.
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:01 |
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Lol I didn't even think about the special effects hazer we were running anytime we were inside on my last job.
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:02 |
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Merck pills for the unvaccinated by choice. Pfizer pills for the vaccinated and those that can't be vaccinated for a legitimate reason, IMHO.
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:03 |
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https://twitter.com/djbyrnes1/status/1473728966271905804?s=20 Cook County and Chicago are hosed and allegedly it's not even omicron
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WarEternal posted:This post was a while back but, I had a bout of 2 weeks of not being able to taste when I had bad pneumonia a few years ago. when I was recovering from leukaemia as a teenager, I couldn't taste anything properly for about a year. it was one of the worst parts of the recovery process (second only to the corticosteroids). I remember biting into a perfectly normal, delicious looking strawberry and gagging from the taste. it was the same with everything else. I had to be rehospitalised for malnutrition because I could barely bring myself to eat anything. I feel like people really underestimate how awful it is, as a symptom, or as a long term disability. but I guess they'll get to find out lol
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:04 |
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I wonder if anybody is gonna try to sell their Valtrex prescription to an anti-vaxxer as the Pfizer antiviral for COVID.
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:04 |
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Goreld posted:The whole thing is a PR stunt, the same way that bragging about ventilator numbers is. You could build infinite hospitals and that wouldn’t solve a pandemic. Unless you put every person in one hospital each, I guess that would work. Like I just love this implicit american attitude "oh I have no idea what China is doing but it must be pointless because if we did it it wouldn't work and nobody is smarter than us americans am i right?"
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:04 |
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haha my dipshit cousin is on infection immunity, 3 mRNA shots and now his second infection.
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Thoguh posted:I’m sure Texas A&M fans will take this A bowl game? I'm down, just picked up some lemon g and GMO yesterday and cleaned out my spoon.
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Shifty Pony posted:I would like to get off Mr. Biden's Mild Ride. change the thread title already you coward mods
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:05 |
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Aren't the people most likely to get omicron first those taking zero precautions and have already had covid at least once? Presumably their natural immunity + the fact that they didn't die the first time sort of selects for people who will have non hospitalized covid this time around The whole "it's mild" reeks to high hell of "don't cause a panic and run on the banks" Also, I'm increasingly less confident in the biden administration's ability to lead through any other crisis that comes up. They're more concerned about electability in their actions than providing actual help; if you're not going to do anything while in power, might as well give up on doing things based on future elections
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:06 |
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Lastgirl posted:if this is true then biden essentially condemned people to die Yeah you must have missed the epic Winter of Death speech last Friday. Was pretty cool if you like blaming everyone else for things and also giving them Death.
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:08 |
a couple quick tips for the noobs dont share unfiltered air with anyone 2 shots only mean ur unvaccinated
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:08 |
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Hadlock posted:Aren't the people most likely to get omicron first those taking zero precautions and have already had covid at least once? Presumably their natural immunity + the fact that they didn't die the first time sort of selects for people who will have non hospitalized covid this time around Or if people in other places have JUST had covid and that provides some protection but most people in the US had it a year ago and have no protection, for example.
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# ? Dec 22, 2021 20:08 |
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Great to see a graph where the number is going down at last Oh.
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https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1473731999508713474?s=20 https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1473710607652302848?s=20 https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1473693397168836613?s=20 seems sustainable
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Goobish posted:Yeah you must have missed the epic Winter of Death speech last Friday. Was pretty cool if you like blaming everyone else for things and also giving them Death. tbf they were pointing out that antivaxxers are killing people and causing mass death, and they're right
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Failed Imagineer posted:Great to see a graph where the number is going down at last see, we're past the peak.
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