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Valentin
Sep 16, 2012

MHA's world and character concepts have always been more interesting than its plot, and imo the quiet and/or small character moments are often much more compelling than the fights (which, after a certain point, inevitably degraded into "can he punch...even harder?"). a manga entirely of room comparisons and school festivals would probably have been much more fun to follow, whereas now MHA has entered the realm of Shonen Ending Nonsense where we have to drag out the final fight by months just to arrive at the same setup everyone's been predicting since the beginning. there is still a way for horikoshi and SJ to salvage the good elements and jettison the lame: give us Sugarman's Springtime of Youth

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
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Freshly-Picked Mineta's Rosy Rupeeland

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012

Ryaomon posted:

They absolutely are but for some reason rather than even try to attempt to give them characterization the author is just speedrunning to the end while occasionally glancing at the popularity charts.

I mean the reason why is obvious. He’s been doing it for 7 years and the weekly Jump grind is actually soul crushing.

Togashi just up and rushed YYH to the finish line because he couldn’t stand the grind anymore. I’m honestly surprised more authors don’t push back on the terrible work conditions Jump imposes on them. Oda is the only one who actually seems to enjoy it and well... given his general health I don’t think he’s someone to emulate in that regard

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker

Asuron posted:

I mean the reason why is obvious. He’s been doing it for 7 years and the weekly Jump grind is actually soul crushing.

Togashi just up and rushed YYH to the finish line because he couldn’t stand the grind anymore. I’m honestly surprised more authors don’t push back on the terrible work conditions Jump imposes on them. Oda is the only one who actually seems to enjoy it and well... given his general health I don’t think he’s someone to emulate in that regard

Oda only does chapters 3 out of every 4 weeks on average (actually less because of holidays/"double issues"), but they are so crammed full of content I question if it is actually any less demanding. He should just lower it to one chapter every two weeks and so should everyone else in Jump, just alternating twice as many series every other week, there is always enough authors trying to run a series in Jump so it is totally possible and it would be more healthy for the industry.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Asuron posted:

I mean the reason why is obvious. He’s been doing it for 7 years and the weekly Jump grind is actually soul crushing.

Togashi just up and rushed YYH to the finish line because he couldn’t stand the grind anymore. I’m honestly surprised more authors don’t push back on the terrible work conditions Jump imposes on them. Oda is the only one who actually seems to enjoy it and well... given his general health I don’t think he’s someone to emulate in that regard

Which part was rushed because everything after Sensui was stuff he didn't wanna do.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

If only there was a story to MHA but that focused on a smaller and more developed cast of characters. One that had street-level adventures and smaller but more personal stakes. Maybe revolving around vigilantes.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

ImpAtom posted:

If only there was a story to MHA but that focused on a smaller and more developed cast of characters. One that had street-level adventures and smaller but more personal stakes. Maybe revolving around vigilantes.

Vigilantes is cool and good but it existing doesn't mean it isn't kind of sad that the main comic doesn't give a poo poo about most of its cast at all.

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

i don't want to read vigilantes, i want to read a better version of the main story

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

Seven idiots and a bear walk into a dragon's lair.

Great news, as of 5 minutes ago, there's 212k fics for MHA on AO3. If you're willing to sort through a lot of chaff (and porn) then you can definitely find the better version of MHA you want.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

SpacePig posted:

Tricking All for One into thinking he's talking to Aoyama but it being Shinso would actually be pretty cool I think.

That would be a super cool plan but I can only imagine he'll go "Ah but actually, since I'm now two guys your quirk can't tell who you're talking to!" *craps out 30 minor-character eating grizzly bears*

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

CuwiKhons posted:

Great news, as of 5 minutes ago, there's 212k fics for MHA on AO3. If you're willing to sort through a lot of chaff (and porn) then you can definitely find the better version of MHA you want.

i wrote a couple a while back but i wouldn't call it my best work

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

CuwiKhons posted:

Great news, as of 5 minutes ago, there's 212k fics for MHA on AO3. If you're willing to sort through a lot of chaff (and porn) then you can definitely find the better version of MHA you want.

80% of them are some variation on "Villain Izuku".

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

Funky Valentine posted:

80% of them are some variation on "Villain Izuku".

How many are "what if Batman instead"?

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

oh jay posted:

How many are "what if Batman instead"?

90% of the rest

the other 10% are people using aizawa as a surrogate for their emotionally distant parents

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Don't forget all the yaoi and Mineta bashfics

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Vinylshadow posted:

Don't forget all the yaoi and Mineta bashfics
These tend to be the same thing.

oh jay posted:

How many are "what if Batman instead"?

That's what half of all "what if Izuku but Villain?" fics are, the other half are "Izuku as the Joker".

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
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Izuku but he’s Calendar Man

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Izuku but he's the unabomber

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Jen X posted:

Izuku but he's the unabomber

How can he be best known for other work, he doesn't have any other work.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Ill-concieved 1930s AU where Midoriya is Adolf Hitler

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

:rip:
Fuckin pour one out for a real manga.

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012

Kild posted:

Which part was rushed because everything after Sensui was stuff he didn't wanna do.

The entirety of the Three Kings. He made a bunch of comments over the years how burnt out he was by that point and how he just wanted to end it quickly to stop doing it.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

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Archive Of Our Own has exclusion filters now, so you don't actually have to sort through all porn or whatever

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Asuron posted:

The entirety of the Three Kings. He made a bunch of comments over the years how burnt out he was by that point and how he just wanted to end it quickly to stop doing it.

Yeah that's the stuff he was locked in a hotel room to write.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


Kild posted:

Which part was rushed because everything after Sensui was stuff he didn't wanna do.

I'm almost positive those chapters with the cultists at the very end was a 'springtime for hitler' (making it look like an earned attempt while going out of your way to make it bad) deal. Though I liked the closing chapters after that, running through all the characters' lives, even minor ones from the Dark Tournament.

FireWorksWell fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Dec 23, 2021

FrozenPhoenix71
Jan 9, 2019
Merry Christmas everyone, have a new Vigilantes

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?



I marked out so loving hard for that last page, holy poo poo

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Koichi pulls 2 more power ups out of his rear end

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
It's just moving the points of propulsion to a different body part. It's as much a new power as Alien Queen putting acid on her arms and then hands.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way


The gift that keeps on giving

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

RatHat posted:

Koichi pulls 2 more power ups out of his rear end

me after koichi gets his first powerup: ffs, another one?

me after koichi gets his second powerup: this owns

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Nice, I assume the regular series is on break this week?

Also, I know a lot of anime/Japanese TV in general takes a break for New Year’s but does that apply to manga releases as well out of curiosity?

In regards to Vigilantes, this fight is just going to keep escalating like this forever at this point isn’t it (Knuckleduster Style is cool though)

Larryb fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Dec 24, 2021

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

:allears:

The circle is now complete

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

The main manga will end next year, and this fight will still be going on, with Crawler extending his quirk a 15th time, while Number 6 morphs into his 20th form.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I'm sorry if you don't think The Crawler: Knuckle Style owns then I'm not sure what to tell you.

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

oh jay posted:

The main manga will end next year, and this fight will still be going on, with Crawler extending his quirk a 15th time, while Number 6 morphs into his 20th form.

The Joljolion thread is that way.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

oh jay posted:

The main manga will end next year, and this fight will still be going on, with Crawler extending his quirk a 15th time, while Number 6 morphs into his 20th form.

They just broke their fifth dimensional wall and now there's seven All Mights and thirteen All For Ones running around in the background

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?

Oh no, is Knuckleduster dead for real this time? :ohdear:

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

The Bee posted:

The Joljolion thread is that way.

Jojolion finished in August, didn't you hear?

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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Where did he get the Infinity Stones from?

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