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The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan

i am skeptical about John Fetterman based on what other people in this thread have said, and because i assume his image is a very finely crafted facade

that being said he is far and away the best choice on the above list and if the bar for being a democratic senator is not being an obstinate shitbag like Manchin or Sinema then get me a loving fetterman lawn sign stat

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thekeeshman
Feb 21, 2007

The Nastier Nate posted:

i am skeptical about John Fetterman based on what other people in this thread have said, and because i assume his image is a very finely crafted facade

that being said he is far and away the best choice on the above list and if the bar for being a democratic senator is not being an obstinate shitbag like Manchin or Sinema then get me a loving fetterman lawn sign stat

Sadly, the simple fact that's he's willing to come out strongly in favor of a no-brainer like legal weed puts him way ahead of the alternatives. The fact that he likes trolling the Republicans is a nice bonus I guess.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
Connor Lamb would just be a younger Joe Manchin
i dont actually know much about Kenyatta im sure he's terrible
Sharif Street is John Street's son lol
Val Arkoosh is the perfect democrat in the sense that she's an empty vessel for democratic platitudes that's never taken a non DNC approved stance on anything
Someone else? who? one of the other empty suit democrats that roam the Philly or Pittsburgh suburbs?

luckily though this is a very winnable race for the dems cause the declared republican candidates so far are perennial losers and/or nobodys

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


The Nastier Nate posted:

Connor Lamb would just be a younger Joe Manchin
i dont actually know much about Kenyatta im sure he's terrible
Sharif Street is John Street's son lol
Val Arkoosh is the perfect democrat in the sense that she's an empty vessel for democratic platitudes that's never taken a non DNC approved stance on anything
Someone else? who? one of the other empty suit democrats that roam the Philly or Pittsburgh suburbs?

luckily though this is a very winnable race for the dems cause the declared republican candidates so far are perennial losers and/or nobodys

Kenyatta was a very vocal Biden primary supporter.

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Nichael posted:

Kenyatta was a very vocal Biden primary supporter.

kenyatta is someone from the fight song video made into flesh

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan

Nichael posted:

Kenyatta was a very vocal Biden primary supporter.

welp, very glad that he doesnt have a prayer of winning.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

I feel like Connor Lamb is going to end up winning

The oil companies are going to open scrooge mcduck's vault for him, and when your average low info dem gets carpetbombed with ads from Lamb telling them that he's the most electable, they'll take a look at Fetterman's big weird face and goatee, and say "ok, sure"

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

So, when is this election? November of next year?

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


PeterCat posted:

So, when is this election? November of next year?

PA primary is early summer.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

I feel like Connor Lamb is going to end up winning

The oil companies are going to open scrooge mcduck's vault for him, and when your average low info dem gets carpetbombed with ads from Lamb telling them that he's the most electable, they'll take a look at Fetterman's big weird face and goatee, and say "ok, sure"

Connor Lamb has barely any name recognition east of Pittsburgh. Sure the ghouls would love him as a first choice but I can't see it happening

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
never heard of this guy but i can already tell he's going places

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The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
A new challenger has entered the arena!

https://twitter.com/jonathantamari/status/1465472568048197640?s=21

God I hope he spends millions of his own dollars for chuds to tell him to gently caress off back to Jersey

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/jblumgart/status/1465735819440926724

why would fetterman do this

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

The Nastier Nate posted:

A new challenger has entered the arena!

https://twitter.com/jonathantamari/status/1465472568048197640?s=21

God I hope he spends millions of his own dollars for chuds to tell him to gently caress off back to Jersey

It's me, the Republican primary voter who is all in for a Trump agnostic RINO named Mehmet

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

The Nastier Nate posted:

A new challenger has entered the arena!

https://twitter.com/jonathantamari/status/1465472568048197640?s=21

God I hope he spends millions of his own dollars for chuds to tell him to gently caress off back to Jersey

does pennsylvania hate jersey

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Bootleg Trunks posted:

does pennsylvania hate jersey

lol

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004


i live in the inner burbs and the light from philly is enough to walk around in those cowards will be fine

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

It's me, the Republican primary voter who is all in for a Trump agnostic RINO named Mehmet

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1465769191848521746?s=20

feels like you shouldn't need to specify what state you're running for senate for in your campaign announcement tweet

Almighty Ken
Nov 5, 2006

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
welcome to Pittsburgh oz. go gently caress yourself.
https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1470473284084973578

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bootleg Trunks posted:

does pennsylvania hate jersey

The hate between those states and sports team is why Bill Burr's favorite rant was so successful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66wq_zX7CkM

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/SuburbanPAWomen/status/1472253815248273419

he did?

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1472966986133032964

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/ConorLambPA/status/1473447528448368650

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

Almighty Ken posted:

welcome to Pittsburgh oz. go gently caress yourself.
https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1470473284084973578

Pepperoneedy
Apr 27, 2007

Rockin' it




he did in a case of mistaken identity, i think the dude is on the record as saying something like "yeah totally makes sense he should still be our senator"

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

lol at voting

Terraplane
Aug 16, 2007

And when I mash down on your little starter, then your spark plug will give me fire.

Pepperoneedy posted:

he did in a case of mistaken identity, i think the dude is on the record as saying something like "yeah totally makes sense he should still be our senator"

It wasn't mistaken identity. Fetterman didn't think the man he ran down and pulled a shotgun on was somebody else. Fetterman heard a noise—fireworks—looked outside and saw a black man jogging, and assumed he must be up to no good. It was the exact same sort of panicked, reactionary racism that caused those GA morons to run down and murder Ahmaud Arbery. Luckily, this guy actually stopped in terror rather than trying to fight back.

It was a really hosed up thing to do and it amazes me how quick some people are to excuse it.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
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Terraplane posted:

It wasn't mistaken identity. Fetterman didn't think the man he ran down and pulled a shotgun on was somebody else. Fetterman heard a noise—fireworks—looked outside and saw a black man jogging, and assumed he must be up to no good. It was the exact same sort of panicked, reactionary racism that caused those GA morons to run down and murder Ahmaud Arbery. Luckily, this guy actually stopped in terror rather than trying to fight back.

It was a really hosed up thing to do and it amazes me how quick some people are to excuse it.

shut the gently caress up

Terraplane
Aug 16, 2007

And when I mash down on your little starter, then your spark plug will give me fire.
pretty sensitive about your racist shithead candidate, I see

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Joe Biden is garbage and will lead Pennsylvania into Republican revolution

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/ConorLambPA/status/1476310254849871872

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

what is this thread even about voting for some man? seems loving stupid if so...

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Conor is the lamest nerd

thekeeshman
Feb 21, 2007

The Saucer Hovers posted:

what is this thread even about voting for some man? seems loving stupid if so...

PA has the opportunity to send an Ogre to the senate, it's very important for representation. Also he might eat the other candidates, which would be entertaining.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Pepperoneedy posted:

he did in a case of mistaken identity, i think the dude is on the record as saying something like "yeah totally makes sense he should still be our senator"

A man confronted in 2013 by a shotgun-wielding John Fetterman — then mayor of tiny Braddock, now lieutenant governor and running for the U.S. Senate — claims Fetterman has “lied about everything” that happened that day.

But Christopher Miyares, writing from a state prison in Somerset County, also told The Inquirer that incident should not stop Fetterman from becoming a senator.

“Even with everything I said, it is inhumane to believe one mistake should define a man’s life,” Miyares wrote in one of two letters sent to The Inquirer. “I hope he gets to be a Senator.” (That last line was underlined three times.)

The 2013 incident has been long discussed in political circles as Fetterman’s career soared. But it has drawn new attention amid the racial reckoning stoked in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd and as Fetterman, a favorite of progressives, emerged as the early Democratic front-runner in a race next year that could determine control of the Senate.

Fetterman and Miyares tell very different versions about that January day from eight years back.

Fetterman’s story: He heard gunfire near his home in the Allegheny County burg and saw a man wearing a mask running away, so he called 911, chased him down in his truck, and approached him with a shotgun in hand. Fetterman, who is white, has repeatedly denied knowing Miyares was Black or pointing the shotgun at him.

Miyares lived in Braddock at the time and said he liked Fetterman, but disputed his account.

“He lied about everything,” Miyares wrote.

He has previously said he was jogging in the neighborhood when he heard fireworks, just before Fetterman confronted him.

“He knew my race. The gun was aimed at my chest while he loaded five red shells into the tube of the 12-gauge TAC shotgun,” Miyares wrote. “Once he finished, he aimed it at my face out of the Ford F-150 Truck.”

But in a second letter to The Inquirer, postmarked on the same day last week, Miyares said Fetterman could face a political backlash now if the Senate candidate revised his account.

“Telling the truth on an incident 10 years ago could cause him more harm than good,” Miyares wrote. “Mr. Fetterman and his family have done far more good than that one bad act or action and, as such, should not be defined by it.”

He signed that letter: “Gooo Fetterman.”

The accounts of both men match a description in a 2013 incident report filed by the Braddock Police Department, which said Miyares was unarmed. The officer who responded to the 911 call said two people in the area stopped him to say “they heard several shots” before he got to Fetterman and Miyares.

The officer wrote that Miyares, 36, was wearing “running clothing” and headphones and was “very cooperative, but was upset that Fetterman pulled a shotgun on him.”

Miyares’ letters were in response to a letter from The Inquirer, seeking his version of the incident. He is serving an 18- to 36-month sentence after being convicted in 2019 of kidnapping, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, and other crimes against a woman who hired him for a ride to work.

Miyares contended in his letter that he is “in prison for a crime I didn’t commit.”

Fetterman, who declined to be interviewed for this story, has stepped cautiously around the controversy since announcing his candidacy in February. He issued a statement then that he had “made a split-decision to intervene for the safety and protection of my community, and intercepted the person to stop them from going any further until the first responders could arrive.”

But in a March 11 Atlantic magazine profile, Fetterman went further than he has in years in publicly discussing the incident. He repeatedly referenced that Miyares ”is now in prison,” and delved into accounts of the crime that led to his conviction.

Fetterman also cast the 2022 election, according to the Atlantic article, as a choice between “somebody with a 26-year track record of working to advance the interests of marginalized communities over the word of somebody who attempted to impersonate a [car service] driver and abduct a woman at knifepoint and terrorize her, and is currently in state prison.”

According to the criminal complaint, the victim told investigators Miyares pulled out a knife after asking her a series of personal questions, driving a route not in thedirection of her job, and locking all the car doors. She forced her door open, escaped, and flagged down nearby drivers for help as Miyares drove off. He later sent her a text message, saying he knew where she lived and worked.

Still, Fetterman’s critics and competitors spy a vulnerability. Talk of the incident has percolated in past campaigns, when Fetterman ran for the Senate in 2016 and for lieutenant governor in 2018, but the 2013 incident has now received the most coverage, due to Fetterman’s front-runner status and the national discourse over racism and policing.

Earlier this year, State Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta, a Philadelphia Democrat and Fetterman’s chief rival for the progressive vote, expressed concern about the incident while entering the Senate race 10 days after Fetterman.

(Still, Braddock Mayor Chardaé Jones said the incident was not a factor in her decision to endorse Kenyatta on Wednesday.)

Sen. Pat Toomey, a Lehigh Valley Republican who is not seeking a third term next year, allowed his campaign to release a statement in February citing the incident as proof Fetterman’s political stances are “nothing more than a gimmick.”

Miyares could be eligible for parole as soon as June, although he was denied release in November by a parole board that cited “reported misconducts” in prison and his “minimalization/denial of the nature and circumstances of the offenses committed.”

If he were held for his maximum sentence, Miyares would remain incarcerated until April 25, 2022, according to the state Department of Corrections.

That is three weeks before the Senate primary.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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The Saucer Hovers posted:

what is this thread even about voting for some man? seems loving stupid if so...

it says John Fetterman in the thread title but i treat it as the catch-all Pennsylvania politics thread and shouldn't be relegated to only posting about Fetterman

If someone wants to poo poo on Josh Shapiro I'll be happy to join in

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
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thekeeshman posted:

PA has the opportunity to send an Ogre to the senate, it's very important for representation. Also he might eat the other candidates, which would be entertaining.

lol

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


John Fetterman lives two miles from me and when I'd ride my bike on the Great Allegheny Passage he'd often be out walking on his phone. I'd yell "JOHNNNN" every time I rode by to annoy him and he never acknowledged me. sad.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

John Fetterman lives two miles from me and when I'd ride my bike on the Great Allegheny Passage he'd often be out walking on his phone. I'd yell "JOHNNNN" every time I rode by to annoy him and he never acknowledged me. sad.

next time yell "gently caress sheetz! wawa rules!" that might get his attention

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thekeeshman
Feb 21, 2007

The Nastier Nate posted:

next time yell "gently caress sheetz! wawa rules!" that might get his attention

For real though I grew up in a big city, and when I got to college I heard all these suburban kids arguing about whether Sheetz or Wawa was better and I had no idea what was going on. Then I found out they were arguing about which gas station was better and my soul died a little bit.

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