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Total Meatlove posted:The SNP's handling of new COVID restrictions is so bad that they're now being bollocked for it by Celtic fans Celtic fans regularly gurn about the SNP? Green Brigade in particular piss & moan about everything & anything. It's about as newsworthy as someone shouting gently caress The Pope at an Orange march. Also not really sure what the SNP could do about COP26, it was the UK government who decided to host the thing in Glasgow, presumably as one of their kid-on sops that Scotland matters to them.
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Communist Thoughts posted:Look Queen Nic was quite clear in her last covid message, in fact she wants to make herself very clear. The cynicism of fans regarding the restrictions and whether the Six Nations match would be affected (  ) should make this thread proud.forkboy84 posted:Celtic fans regularly gurn about the SNP? Green Brigade in particular piss & moan about everything & anything. It's about as newsworthy as someone shouting gently caress The Pope at an Orange march. They do, but that's not Green Brigade. And in the same way that Boris Johnson was technically having an afternoon meeting at a place exempt from COVID regulations with staff, the optics of the SNP shutting down outdoor events despite any evidence for outdoor transmission, then working backwards to justifications for it, isn't great?
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fuctifino posted:My experience under Labour was shortly after they introduced the work capability assessments and hired ATOS to conduct them. At the time, I was in a long waiting queue for a neurology appointment, and thought that the ATOS assessment was a genuine medical assessment and would help me get treatment. The assessor was in a white coat, and I genuinely thought I was seeing a doctor. 7 or 8 years ago I also had a "medical assessment" with one of the government's pet agencies after I hit a trigger point for absences due to sickness. It might have been Serco instead of Atos; I don't recall now, but they're all the same. The assessor was asking what the absences were for and we got to a bout of gastroenteritis that caused diarrhoea. She asked where that had come from, and I offhandedly said "From my bottom" - as you do when you're a human being. She immediately went full Hitler and told me that she could recommend that I be terminated. Now I wasn't worried; my department manager knew that most of my absences were due to crash hypos at work that he'd witnessed first hand, and had told me before I went that it was just a formality because I'd been off sick five times in a year. But if he hadn't known that, and if she'd reported back as she threatened, I could have lost my job. So the Tories haven't just sped up the process of killing people who are unemployed because of long term illnesses by getting them off benefits. They've also tightened the regime so that people with LTIs who are employed can be more easily put out of work - and from there, denied benefits as well. It's full on eugenics.
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There's a video of this guys routine in he thread so I thought I'd give it a look and I have no idea what anti-woke comedy is. He makes a joke about a vegan talking about being vegan a lot which, O.K. I guess. That environmentalists are middle class people who take daddy's ranger rover to protests which is a very old one. He also made a joke about plastic straws not being single use if you drink with them and they kill a turtle. He also did a bit about state schools being shitter than posh schools. Mostly it seemed like jokes people have been telling for years but updated for 2019. The more people use it the more I don't understand what "woke" means. Also had my booster jab yesterday. Was a very long queue which is good I guess, at least people are getting their booster.
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bessantj posted:There's a video of this guys routine in he thread so I thought I'd give it a look and I have no idea what anti-woke comedy is. He makes a joke about a vegan talking about being vegan a lot which, O.K. I guess. That environmentalists are middle class people who take daddy's ranger rover to protests which is a very old one. He also made a joke about plastic straws not being single use if you drink with them and they kill a turtle. He also did a bit about state schools being shitter than posh schools. Mostly it seemed like jokes people have been telling for years but updated for 2019. The more people use it the more I don't understand what "woke" means. Yeah I tracked down a routine by a guy from the Comedy Unleashed thing, didn't watch it all but opened with basically "I'm opposed to mandatory vaxx but I am at least vaxxed" and then did a bit about the Pfizer vaccine being the better German one but being very picky about being kept in the fridge etc. Not exactly the best comedy I've ever seen but nothing so outrageous that it couldn't have come from Michael McIntyre tbh.
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Surprise T Rex posted:Yeah I tracked down a routine by a guy from the Comedy Unleashed thing, didn't watch it all but opened with basically "I'm opposed to mandatory vaxx but I am at least vaxxed" and then did a bit about the Pfizer vaccine being the better German one but being very picky about being kept in the fridge etc. Not exactly the best comedy I've ever seen but nothing so outrageous that it couldn't have come from Michael McIntyre tbh. Aha! Proof that he's being censored and not able to tell the jokes he wants to! Convex posted:Article: The plan to tag people whose claims are being considered, first reported in the Sun, is likely to be piloted before being rolled out more widely. Sources claim that new legislation is not required because powers to require asylum seekers to wear tags are already available. How strange, that in this situation ministers are saying "we don't need to make more laws, there's already a law for that" 
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Convex posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/23/cross-channel-asylum-seekers-could-be-tagged-under-home-office-plans Perhaps we should make the tags star shaped. Would be very seasonal.
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Zalakwe posted:Perhaps we should make the tags star shaped. Would be very seasonal. Nah it's going to be pierced through the ears.
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Surprise T Rex posted:Yeah I tracked down a routine by a guy from the Comedy Unleashed thing, didn't watch it all but opened with basically "I'm opposed to mandatory vaxx but I am at least vaxxed" and then did a bit about the Pfizer vaccine being the better German one but being very picky about being kept in the fridge etc. Not exactly the best comedy I've ever seen but nothing so outrageous that it couldn't have come from Michael McIntyre tbh. I think the most anti woke thing he said was the he agreed with Donald Trump. The level of bravery that puts him in the same camp as only hundreds of millions of others, so brave. His straw gag reminded me of a Christmas party a rugby club I belonged to put on. A friend of mine had gone up to get a drink for him and his girlfriend. As he was coming back he took a sip of her drink through a straw, the comedian they had on saw this and started in on how only women drink through straws and was my friend some sort of gay (though he used the F word.) Went on for about five minutes as well, prancing round the stage. About as funny as arse cancer but there you are, will this "Unsafe Space" show have such amazing comedy?
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Was an hour and 45 queue at the Cardiff bay MVC yesterday. In the rain obviously
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Welp I just very briefly crossed the high street and going by what the shops looked like I guess we’re going for herd immunity again? God help our retail workers, and gently caress the bosses who haven’t reintroduced limits on numbers in their shops, which appears to be “all of them”
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Dec 23, 2021 15:12
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Skarsnik posted:Was an hour and 45 queue at the Cardiff bay MVC yesterday. In the rain obviously Mine wasn't as long, still spent about 25 mins in the rain, about the same inside then.
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Soricidus posted:Welp I just very briefly crossed the high street and going by what the shops looked like I guess we’re going for herd immunity again? There is a new "hilarious jape" old men are doing. They go up to masked supermarket staff unmasked and go, "can you tell me where object is? *cough* *cough*" in their faces then walk away chuckling. Happening to mini about 3 times a shift and the place is rammed with unmasked absolute fuckwads who don't want to do home delivery when there are slots still available.
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Dec 23, 2021 15:16
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What a hosed up, twisted, palsied soul you must have to do poo poo like that. It's genuinely baffling to me
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learnincurve posted:There is a new "hilarious jape" old men are doing. They go up to masked supermarket staff unmasked and go, "can you tell me where object is? *cough* *cough*" in their faces then walk away chuckling. Happening to mini about 3 times a shift and the place is rammed with unmasked absolute fuckwads who don't want to do home delivery when there are slots still available. That's loving horrible. So sorry for your kid.
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so looks like the ladbaby nonce is mad that Kunt and the gang are pushing for a no 1 turns out he's a tory voter, surprising no one. always knew he was a wrongun
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learnincurve posted:There is a new "hilarious jape" old men are doing. They go up to masked supermarket staff unmasked and go, "can you tell me where object is? *cough* *cough*" in their faces then walk away chuckling. Happening to mini about 3 times a shift and the place is rammed with unmasked absolute fuckwads who don't want to do home delivery when there are slots still available. Jesus, that's terrible, do they get thrown out?
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bessantj posted:Mine wasn't as long, still spent about 25 mins in the rain, about the same inside then. The queue at the front of the building was pretty big when you arrived, but as you walked round the corner of the building the full horror of hundreds and hundreds of people snaking round the car park revealed itself
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During the scary initial deserted-streets-NHS-rainbows part of the pandemic I had a passenger in my taxi tell me had COVID, cough on me, then go "Hey man sharing's caring lolololol". He was very surprised when I hauled him out the cab and gave him a kicking. He was also very surprised when he reported it to the police and they went "lol it was self defence, we're not investigating". He was also very surprised when he complained to the taxi office and they went "oh cool, we're banning you". He was also very surprised when he complained to the local council licensing board, and they went "well what did you expect to happen?" He was, of course, the kind of middle-class-six-figures-at-daddy's-firm-Audi-A4-on-the-monoblock-driveway oval office that has never faced consequences in their life. The pandemic's basically been the first time Bad Stuff has been happening here, rather than just on the news, and it's bent a lot of people in a very weird way.
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Going to Asda yesterday was a mistake. I think I saw every possible position that could be classed as "wearing a mask" apart from the one that covers the nose and mouth, even the staff. People have a death wish.
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She's been sick maybe 50% of the time since working there because of this, and that's being generous, it could be as much as 70%. Not covid just irritating colds and light flu because if you have a cough and you cough in someone's face you are giving it to them, you disgusting old baggage. Other one is unmasked dipshits coughing on busses and sitting there aggressively challenging anyone to say something like what, cover your mouth if you cough shitstain , 5 year olds can do that. I have an good story though. Yesterday there was a unmasked old man who went round closing the windows on this empty, but for him and minicurve, bus. Bus driver pulls over and goes round opening them again to a whining "but aaaam cooold" from the old fart to a "I don't care, I don't want to catch covid". Bus sets off, old man goes to close the window again and the bus driver says if touches it he's being kicked off the bus. Old man closes the window. Bus driver stops bus opens door and says this bus isnt moving with him on it. 5 mins later with much grumbling the old guy stomps off the bus and starts the long walk home.
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Barry Foster posted:What a hosed up, twisted, palsied soul you must have to do poo poo like that. It's genuinely baffling to me literally attempted murder imo
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bessantj posted:Jesus, that's terrible, do they get thrown out? Supermarket policy (in most places) is not to challenge unmasked or aggressive customers but to inform a manager, but no one does because of the hassle.
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Omicron is here and no-one gives a poo poo, we're speedrunning the 100% Covid run and there's nothing we can do to stop it, so I recommend just letting go and pivoting to total ambivalence. Oh, you lost your mum to an unfortunate breakthrough case/non-Covid reason but the hospital was full? That's a shame. Did you take any precautions whatsoever in the past few months? No? Oh well tough poo poo then, go cry about it somewhere else.
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Convex posted:literally attempted murder imo Agreed. Much heartened by LC and Skulker's accounts, though. Good on that bus driver. Good on you, Skulker.
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bessantj posted:There's a video of this guys routine in he thread so I thought I'd give it a look and I have no idea what anti-woke comedy is. He makes a joke about a vegan talking about being vegan a lot which, O.K. I guess. You may or may not know that one of Nazi cartoonist Stonetoss's gateway jokes was a vegan not being sure he could win the World Insufferability Championship because his opponent was a cyclist. Now he isn't wrong about that - in fact it's a good cartoon for his purposes because it does it very well - but wherever I see it I feel like the comedian is testing the water to lead up to "... and those blacks, hey?"
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JSA/UC: ime the whole point is to punish vulnerable people earnestly seeking help. It's all smoke and mirrors. You don't have to apply to poo poo, you just have to look like you are. Put on a shirt, adopt all the class coded etiquette you can, and invent a bunch of stuff to lie about in the paperwork. The game was always rigged and everyone in the jobcentre knows it. They don't want to punish 'good sorts' - i.e. middle class types fallen on a brief period of unemployment. Knowing the unofficial rules behind the rules, which totally coincidentally are the same ones that apply to most middle class jobs, is 90% of the battle. If you try to play the game honestly you've already lost. Similarly, a friend has gone through various disability assessments and insists that approaching them as an honest assessment is the worst thing you can do. Never try your best to do what you're asked, always do the worst you can. If you struggle to just about raise your arm, you've struggled to kick yourself in the teeth. learnincurve posted:There is a new "hilarious jape" old men are doing. They go up to masked supermarket staff unmasked and go, "can you tell me where object is? *cough* *cough*" in their faces then walk away chuckling. Happening to mini about 3 times a shift and the place is rammed with unmasked absolute fuckwads who don't want to do home delivery when there are slots still available. 100% taking my own mask off and coughing on their face while mentioning how peaky I've been feeling if someone pulls that bullshit on me. I imagine they'd change their tune very quickly. People seem completely unable to understand that I don't wear a mask for my own protection.
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Skarsnik posted:The queue at the front of the building was pretty big when you arrived, but as you walked round the corner of the building the full horror of hundreds and hundreds of people snaking round the car park revealed itself Mine wasn't as bad as that, but as I said at least people are getting their booster. learnincurve posted:Supermarket policy (in most places) is not to challenge unmasked or aggressive customers but to inform a manager, but no one does because of the hassle. This is why I don't think I could work in those places anymore. You can't just cough in people's face and expect them not to react. Jedit posted:You may or may not know that one of Nazi cartoonist Stonetoss's gateway jokes was a vegan not being sure he could win the World Insufferability Championship because his opponent was a cyclist. Now he isn't wrong about that - in fact it's a good cartoon for his purposes because it does it very well - but wherever I see it I feel like the comedian is testing the water to lead up to "... and those blacks, hey?" I'd never thought of it that way. Mostly it makes me think about how old the joke it, probably been round since the 80s if not before. Like a comedy Ready Player One.
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Tesco this morning was 6-8 no mask, 1 nose commando and the rest were masked, damned place was heading towards packed as 8am, very few staff were masked. 
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Do vegans talk about being vegan all the time? In my experience they talk about it as much as people with food allergies or people who keep kosher* do, usually when ordering food. And then a bunch of other pricks feel the need to go on about bacon as a reaction. *I doubt he'll be doing any jokes about that, but he will do the exact same jokes about halal. Skeletome posted:so looks like the ladbaby nonce is mad that Kunt and the gang are pushing for a no 1  Hope Kunt beats him. How the gently caress can you be like "buy my whimsical songs about sausage rolls, all the money goes to foodbanks" and then vote for the people that make sure that people have to rely on foodbanks? What a wanker.
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bessantj posted:There's a video of this guys routine in he thread so I thought I'd give it a look and I have no idea what anti-woke comedy is. He makes a joke about a vegan talking about being vegan a lot which, O.K. I guess. That environmentalists are middle class people who take daddy's ranger rover to protests which is a very old one. He also made a joke about plastic straws not being single use if you drink with them and they kill a turtle. He also did a bit about state schools being shitter than posh schools. Mostly it seemed like jokes people have been telling for years but updated for 2019. The more people use it the more I don't understand what "woke" means. I got 2 mins into the first youtube video I found and we're already deep within TERF ISLAND territory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt9lZCiGdo4&t=119s
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Spangly A posted:Labour may have their own culpabilities, and may well be fully supportive of the situation, and I've no problem with anyone who won't ever vote to put Rachel Reeves in power. But the Tories are the ones who have overseen the creation of a hostile environment for both the disabled people of the uk and all of their employees with any trace of compassion or decency - I've heard conservative voting family friends mutter that the people who enjoy working there ought to be put down. When I lost the job and tried to sign back on, the whole workfare / quotas / UC change had happened and was in the news. I got wayne again. I would describe him as having had the soul sucked out of him. He was lifelessly dragging himself through a script until I started talking about the restrictions on the jobs I could do, and he instantly started talking about referring me for assessment. In the interrim between the two periods I'd gotten married, which means I wouldn't get any money from them anyway, so I noped out and went self-employed. The quotas in particular seem to have destroyed any staff who had a non-punitive mindset and driven them out. All that's left are either ideological bastards or people who need the money and can't afford not to meet quotas. I know this is going to sound like naïvety, especially in light of what fuctifino posted, but I feel like under Labour there were at least some staff who viewed it possible to help. There were of course cunts ruining people's lives, but there was space in the system for people to be compassionate. The reality of UC as implemented by the tories is that there is no space for compassion. Structurally it's absolute brutal, and the sociopathic ruleset means anyone with a shred of empathy leaves or is hollowed out. As I said before, I'm not saying it was great under New Labour or that they didn't open the door for this. But for fucks sake the tories blasted through that door in a monster truck and set fire to the room.
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Skeletome posted:so looks like the ladbaby nonce is mad that Kunt and the gang are pushing for a no 1 Where have you seen this?
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Skulker posted:During the scary initial deserted-streets-NHS-rainbows part of the pandemic I had a passenger in my taxi tell me had COVID, cough on me, then go "Hey man sharing's caring lolololol". He was very surprised when I hauled him out the cab and gave him a kicking. I hope you were picking him up from or taking him home. Not so you could do anything with that knowledge, but it'd be nice to think of this git with the fear of god in him evermore that a violent proletarian might know where he lives.
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learnincurve posted:To play devil's advocate on that one though, it was around the mid 2000s when it became a thing where people would "self statement" their kid with autism and apply for DLA, thus loving it up for the rest of us and giving them an excuse to be dicks. Now we have a situation where the DWP do their own assessments, and generally the first line of refusal is done by people with 2 weeks training who look up rain man on wikipedia and decide it's not that, because you didn't 'look' autistic on the day. You can go in with all the professional prep you like but these dipshits can just decide you looked too happy, or were able to complete basic tasks once regardless of how long it took or how much pain it caused, and over-rule the diagnoses of GPs, consultants and trained diagnosticians.
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