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The cognitive dissonance is real, they're trying to reconcile "Star Citizen's" luxury, with real-world quality. Those 2 don't go hand in hand. They've been fed all this time on how much fidelity, work and quality has been put into the game. So much so that they expect the same for their real world store (really what would you call those items, "Star Citizen Gear" - I guess at this point). Then when these 2 don't equal each other, they become butthurt and sad. Happy Holidays everyone! Buy an Idris.
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I'm late to the financials talk, but their total employee headcount is 695, while their salary expenditures are 43.950M. That's an average of $63237.41 per employee, and this includes admin. Their employees are being shafted so hard lmao
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Mellow_ posted:I'm late to the financials talk, but their total employee headcount is 695, while their salary expenditures are 43.950M. Either that or they really have less employees than reported. Maybe counting some of the contracted external ones. Also the staff figure is year end, so average during the year would be lower than the 695 reported.
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MedicineHut posted:Either that or they really have less employees than reported. Maybe counting some of the contracted external ones. Also the staff figure is year end, so average during the year would be lower than the 695 reported. I hope they're counting contractors because even if we give them the generosity of using the employee headcount from 2019 with their 2020 expenditures we're still sitting at ~$72000 which still makes me sad.
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A lot of those employees are in the UK so it might not be much different from other gaming salaries. Maybe someone else knows more but I would guess a game dev in their early twenties working on a project as prestigious as space citizen is going to get like £25-30k. Add maybe £4k employer costs for NI and pensions. That's only around $40k cost. Or one Legatus Whale bundle. Also I bet they get a great employee discount on spaceships so really you have to add like 50% to make this a fair comparison to other jobs.
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I guess LARPing as game developers doesn't pay as well as one would hope.
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Star Atlas is now making fake "gameplay" trailers too, buy NFT Idrises now! No sandiworm yet though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-pXQQUoYU0
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I’m intrigued in your gameplay and would like to buy an NFT for 10.000 bucks!
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JammyB posted:Also I bet they get a great employee discount on spaceships so really you have to add like 50% to make this a fair comparison to other jobs. gently caress no, if that was the case they could relist them on the grey market for profits. You know that if they get anything, it's meticulously policed or locked to their employee account so no money can be made from anything employee exclusive.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:gently caress no, if that was the case they could relist them on the grey market for profits. I don't think CIG are capable of doing anything meticulously
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 Ah, a a website add for a future kickstarter to support a book about how a kickstarter project went wrong. Star Citizen is back bay beeee
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To bad i deleted my kickstarter account when they went all in on Blockchain.
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Beet Wagon posted:
I'm getting seriously torqued, someone take my money! Did I do it right?
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Beet Wagon posted:
Please tell me there is a belt for early backers
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tuo posted:I’m intrigued in your gameplay and would like to buy an NFT for 10.000 bucks! Sorry, buttcoin only.
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It's because upper management never knew, and never learned, how to scope a project and stick to a possible scope within the boundaries of cost and time and quality. Sorry I wrecked your Kickstarter. 
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Pixelate posted:Seasons greetings all! Participate Voluntarily Please
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Listen you God drat FUDsters I am part of the change control team and let me tell you that things being done that aren't on the 12 month road map is totally normal if you understand anything about game development...
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Why the gently caress do you need a kickstarter for a book? JK Rowling had to make typed copies of her manuscript because she couldn't afford to use a copy machine.
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Lammasu posted:Why the gently caress do you need a kickstarter for a book? JK Rowling had to make typed copies of her manuscript because she couldn't afford to use a copy machine. What about a book makes it any less appropriate for a Kickstarter than anything else?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:What about a book makes it any less appropriate for a Kickstarter than anything else? Google docs/open office/libre office/loving notepad is free and you can sell the resulting document through any number of storefronts, including ones that will print physical copies for you if you want.
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Beet Wagon posted:
I can sell you a NBS (NFT-backed security) to hedge your pledges in case on a run on the JPEG market. Composite reverse-inverse derivatives are all the rage.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Google docs/open office/libre office/loving notepad is free and you can sell the resulting document through any number of storefronts, including ones that will print physical copies for you if you want. By that logic, listing a game on Steam is also (practically) free, so video games don't need kickstarters.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:By that logic, listing a game on Steam is also (practically) free, so video games don't need kickstarters. You can write a book in your spare time, alone, without funding. (You can also make a small indie game the same way, and many do.) To Kickstart a book, they want their lives funded so they can concentrate on that 100%. Which means this is a "make my dream come true" Kickstarter, not a proposition of value. It smacks of "I deserve this, and the result will be so great, I'll let you pay for it."
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I'm not saying THIS book is a good value. I just find it a weird statement that books shouldn't be on kickstarter. They have as much right as any other media property, and writers should absolutely be supported while writing if the fans are willing to contribute.
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Yeah, you should be free to scam people out of their money with the medium of your choice. Books are perfectly fine for that.
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Kickstarter shouldnt even exist. Especially not in its current form. Its predatory bullshit.
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I said come in! posted:Kickstarter shouldnt even exist. Especially not in its current form. Its predatory bullshit. i have good news for you. it's only going to get worse
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Scruffpuff posted:I guess LARPing as game developers doesn't pay as well as one would hope. The Apollo crews didn't get extra pay, it was just part of the job and a gift to all humanity. The CIG code pioneers working on server meshing are basically the same if you think about it. Probably braver to touch that codebase if anything.
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Sankis posted:i have good news for you. it's only going to get worse 
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Scruffpuff posted:You can write a book in your spare time, alone, without funding. (You can also make a small indie game the same way, and many do.) To Kickstart a book, they want their lives funded so they can concentrate on that 100%. Which means this is a "make my dream come true" Kickstarter, not a proposition of value. It smacks of "I deserve this, and the result will be so great, I'll let you pay for it." You can also make a game alone without funding, Stardew Valley was made in this way as an example. This is a really silly argument. Wiz fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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TheAgent posted:Yo I wish someone would have told me the new Guardians of the Galaxy game was good because it is This and FFVII remake were pleasant surprises (despite all the bullshit around FFVIIs port and platform)
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There are lots of things you can technically do unfunded, but being able to quit your job while you do them can only help.
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Rugz posted:"I have a degree in software engineering. I don't write code currently. I work in Service Delivery as a team lead doing Major incident response, problem management and change control. I'm in every PI planning session for our enterprise services and applications division, I'm in every ART sync meeting, I'm in daily standups and attend scrum. My team is the team that owns the platform we use for service delivery (ServiceNow and Jira) within our company. A degree in software engineering is often a waste of time, but sometimes not. I'm going to assume that PI Planning and ART Sync are some agile bullshit going by the rest of this nonsense. I think this stuff might sound impressive to someone that doesn't know what he's talking about, they sound like a real pain in the rear end. Most of the first paragraph is jargon for "I attend a lot of meetings prescribed by Agile methodology". The rest is just describing the job of your basic ops team. Like, imagine being proud of being the ones tasked with managing the duelling garbage heaps of ServiceNow and Jira. For a laugh, I googled PI Planning to see what I got and came across this image, which is apparently of the ideal PI Planning session.  I thank god I am not at a company that does this sort of thing. This is an image of $10,000+ being blown on what is probably a huge waste of time for 95% of the people in this picture. Agile is a plague on software.
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Fidelitious posted:A degree in software engineering is often a waste of time, but sometimes not. I'm going to assume that PI Planning and ART Sync are some agile bullshit going by the rest of this nonsense. Yes, specifically "SAFE", Scaled Agile Framework. IE. "hmm Agile seems fun but we want to add in a whole bunch of management bullshit and employ 50 tiers of middle managers on top", ie. the bane of my existence.
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Fidelitious posted:Agile is a plague on software. I remember Agile from the late 90s/early 2000s. Back then it was just telling people to "be proactive".
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Dwesa posted:
As usual the faithful will do the following: 1. Memory hole 2. Claim this is only because Chris only allows the very best to be released ( we should be grateful ) 3. "You don't understand development" 4. Just because it isn't there doesn't mean it isn't progressing 5. Sometime the developers realize certain development will give away key plot lines so hold back until release 6. It's there just on a special release no one else can see... Boy will you all be embarrassed! 7. "Development of the first AAAA game is hard! I am ready to wait as long as it takes!" 8. drat trolls! Why is there so much hate in your life you have to attack these poor, hard working developers!
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