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Chillgamesh posted:Also entering God Bard Mode every 2 minutes where you have Raging Strikes + Radiant Finale + Battle Voice up and are spamming Pitch Perfects rules And then you reflexively refresh your dots the moment those buffs wear off. We parsed my EX1 fights yesterday, 1:20 of clipped dots per minute. Definitely something I need to improve on.
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Bruceski posted:I'm kinda torn on it because ShB dot management was definitely something I engaged with, but I always said "this is annoying" when doing so. I'd hate to see it go away completely but I definitely like not losing so dang much when it goes wrong. I feel like a solution would be that songs have a chance to proc 40% on server tick, and 40% on dot tick (once). So mastery still involves dot management, but it’s far less integral and as long as you have a song going you’ll still get a reasonable number of procs.
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Saint Freak posted:-Titan effect increased 4x in size https://twitter.com/CubedOranges/status/1474617506862043137?s=20
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I saw that recruiting but I'm bad at tower and would have felt bad if I kept dying because I'm bad AND because I can't see poo poo.
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Leraika posted:I saw that recruiting but I'm bad at tower and would have felt bad if I kept dying because I'm bad AND because I can't see poo poo. But did you consider that 23 other people would have raise spells?
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Lord_Magmar posted:I feel like a solution would be that songs have a chance to proc 40% on server tick, and 40% on dot tick (once). So mastery still involves dot management, but it’s far less integral and as long as you have a song going you’ll still get a reasonable number of procs. two 40% chances is less than 80%, fyi
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Something I grew to appreciate after running it a bunch for gear is the 83EX trial having the music sync up really well to the big flourish after you survive the add phase with Fancydan somewhat out of breath and shocked you managed to live.
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I dont remember if this was posted, but Soken tweeted a wonderful bit of trivia yesterday about Flow. The first tweet has a spoilery pic, but the gist of the first is the song was recorded once fine and then (She being Amanda Achen) https://twitter.com/SOKENsquareenix/status/1474825764235522048?t=a1mHfK3bZ3H1pncyC4GOSQ&s=19 I would love if someone did an interview with her
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Thinking about maybe picking up Endwalker. How are the login wait times these days?
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Lord_Magmar posted:I feel like a solution would be that songs have a chance to proc 40% on server tick, and 40% on dot tick (once). So mastery still involves dot management, but it’s far less integral and as long as you have a song going you’ll still get a reasonable number of procs. The thing is, it wasn't dot management on most fights really. It was an iron jaw exactly every X amount of gcds. There was never ever a choice of whether or not you needed your dots on the boss over any other button except in 1 or 2 boss jump aways in all of savage and even then those are mitigated by just adjusting where the iron jaws was in your rotation. In most situations it was something you never ever considered so now while dots have no bearing outside of damage their upkeep is exactly the same AND your core class actions are are tied directly into the core thematic element of the class (Bard songs) and less prone to gently caress you over in one direction or another. There's no real benefit for sticking with attaching them to the dots other than 'Well that's how it's been since HW". Tbh I'm shocked brd didn't get a more extensive overhaul like summoner because much like summoner demphasizing it's dots to trend to something closer to its classic ff job fantasy this is a clear step to doing the same thing but with bard. Also your math is real bad. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Whizzing Wizard posted:Thinking about maybe picking up Endwalker. How are the login wait times these days? Queues have really calmed down lately but people are probably hanging out with family and stuff over the Holiday and gaming less. It'll probably get a little worse in January when the Savage raid comes out but I'm pretty sure the worst of it is over since a lot of people have finished the 6.0 MSQ by now.
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They've been pretty reasonable the last couple of days, but it's holiday time. They were maybe in the 1.9ks-2ks on Faerie before the 23rd.
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Pretty good on small EU server. Tens of people on queue on primetime today. But if you don't have bought account:  urnotgttngin 
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Whizzing Wizard posted:Thinking about maybe picking up Endwalker. How are the login wait times these days? A lot better! As long as you're not trying to get on like right at 5pm eastern time, there's either no queue at all or a pretty short one.
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all this BRD talk is fine but let's talk about the real issues, which is that reaper's enshroud attack animations last slightly longer than 1 GCD and it drives me nuts
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Badger of Basra posted:all this BRD talk is fine but let's talk about the real issues, which is that reaper's enshroud attack animations last slightly longer than 1 GCD and it drives me nuts I tried out Reaper for the first time last night and that class is loving weird. It's melee dancer where all its actions have an aoe equivalent
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Badger of Basra posted:all this BRD talk is fine but let's talk about the real issues, which is that reaper's enshroud attack animations last slightly longer than 1 GCD and it drives me nuts pulling it back to Bard talk immediately I noticed while loving around in gpose that Sidewinder actually has the sickest animation where you loose the arrow and then hold your hand up and snap your fingers as soon as the damage registers
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Chillgamesh posted:pulling it back to Bard talk immediately I noticed while loving around in gpose that Sidewinder actually has the sickest animation where you loose the arrow and then hold your hand up and snap your fingers as soon as the damage registers yes sidewinder also has the tornado kick/elixir field problem, which were the first abilities where I noticed that they actually look really cool but you never get to see them because they're oGCDs e: or at least they used to be
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Potsticker posted:two 40% chances is less than 80%, fyi This very much depends on what the desired outcome is!
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I am aware two 40% chances are not 80% chance. I was more just offering a way to keep the new functionality of Bard Songs from EW (proc chance by default) and ShB (DoTs do procs). As a class design thought process for how to synergise both versions into something that still works nicely if you aren’t dotting, but encourages good play with better rewards. I think having parts of kits interact can be fun and rewarding, the changes made to DoTs for bard seemed to disappoint people but the functionality of songs being changed was a great quality of life so I was more thinking how both could be combined. I realise now that this is a somewhat redundant and repetitive post so to actually say something different. The chances could be tweaked to whatever was desired. The goal would simply be that there’s a part of the class to express mastery without making the class uncomfortable to use casually. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I tried out Reaper for the first time last night and that class is loving weird. It's melee dancer where all its actions have an aoe equivalent *leans forward* oh really
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Deathlove posted:*leans forward* oh really It's got a 2 button aoe combo and aoe debuff applied an aoe version of its basic Reaper hit and its Reaper buff gcd.
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Regarding parses, in order to get the best rankings on fflogs you also need to end the fight during a burst part of your rotation. Ending the fight right before hypercharge/wildfire, Inner Release, or a Ten Chi Jin window for example can easily be the difference between a purple and orange parse, let alone pink. The players who farm parses with the explicit purpose of getting the 100th percentile do so with groups that intentionally sandbag to let players finish in their burst phase (as well as add padding). There's a lot of parse parties right now because endgame is pretty easy at the moment so there isn't much to do while waiting for the Savage raids to drop. At the same time, lots of recruiting will be looking at logs so it's a good idea to put your best foot forward.
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I forgot about the prog raid culture that basically makes it like a job interview lol
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lalastruttin' at the end of 3.3 to let the trial boss know it's fuuuuucked
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's got a 2 button aoe combo and aoe debuff applied an aoe version of its basic Reaper hit and its Reaper buff gcd. Oh, I wasn't trying to be snarky, I main DNC and have been thinking of what I want to mess around with next and people do be liking that Reaper, and if it's similar, all the better!
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I was gonna look myself up on fflogs for curiosity's sake because I am sure I'm real bad, but on there my character is still showing up as being on Lamia and has zero stats available, when I transferred to Excal well over a month ago to join a goon FC.
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Deathlove posted:Oh, I wasn't trying to be snarky, I main DNC and have been thinking of what I want to mess around with next and people do be liking that Reaper, and if it's similar, all the better! I play DNC and have been dabbling in RPR and I essentially have my single target/aoe rotations mapped out the same and it's pretty easy to bounce back and forth between the two. Beyond that though it's pretty different imo but I haven't leveled RPR up to 90 yet so not sure if it changes much.
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I've been playing BRD since HW and it's in a really, really good place right now. Like, I kind of hated a lot of these changes on paper (and fishing for a Shadowbite proc for Barrage in AoE is honestly pretty terrible, I will say), but now that I've got it to 90 I'm definitely going to switch back to it for raiding after being forced to go MCH after E8S.
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Bruceski posted:she can't play the job she wants because it's not good right now In what universe? It's beating MCH and DNC soundly at 95th/99th percentile for rDPS.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The thing is, it wasn't dot management on most fights really. It was an iron jaw exactly every X amount of gcds. There was never ever a choice of whether or not you needed your dots on the boss over any other button except in 1 or 2 boss jump aways in all of savage and even then those are mitigated by just adjusting where the iron jaws was in your rotation. In most situations it was something you never ever considered so now while dots have no bearing outside of damage their upkeep is exactly the same AND your core class actions are are tied directly into the core thematic element of the class (Bard songs) and less prone to gently caress you over in one direction or another. you are absolutely wrong about all of this ftr and heres my bona fides   and ill give you an itemized list 1): it is actually factually impossible to "iron jaws exactly every x gcds" because of the interaction with refulgent arrow 2): iron jaws has variable value based on what raid buffs were available in each moment, even outside your own natural burst (which also didnt align since it was 80s) 3): you are ignoring that they also just tied the changes to songs in a bad way, like the fact that songs now cant proc proc in the last 3 seconds period. ever. so every song now has lost a proc overall even if we decide a smaller range of procs is better (and thats not a value neutral statement so we cant decide that freely) 4): things like three bloodletter charges literally do not make sense in a world where you can only proc a maximum of twice in 3 seconds (and its even worse considering they nerfed ballad so 2 procs is only 1 bloodletter). theres plenty of good reason to not have made these changes, like uhhhh, its currently an active and engaging class, theres no reason we need or should want to deemphasize dots from it unless you just hate hate hate dots which is dumb and irrational, and also the things people want from the class are to just be in line with the other classes. they explicitly didnt do that because "in return" for being affected by our own buffs now, a thing every other class gets for loving free, they made us worse in other spots. that sucks rear end and is gonna drive people away from it (including me, i dropped it once it hit 90 lol) and thats a much easier thing to fix that would only make people happy. theyve outright admitted "we dont know what to do with this" so im not sure why you think the changes they made at the same time they said that are incredibly bespoke and people just "dont get it". they suck rear end because theyve got a weird hangup about bard, and the solution is to ditch the hangup, not this nonsense theyre currently doing.
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Kyrosiris posted:In what universe? It's beating MCH and DNC soundly at 95th/99th percentile for rDPS. She wants to be a dancer
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unfortunately i think they do just hate dots. but at that point just remove them from the game completely.
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I have conflicting feelings about dots. On the one hand, I don't really like them in most games (though dot specs in GW2 can be pretty fun) and I think a lot of the time they feel like they're tacked on just to give you something else to keep track of. On the other, while leveling Reaper I keep feeling like Death's Design would "feel better" as a dot than just a damage buff. Maybe I like maintenance buffs/debuffs even less than I like dots. And on the other other hand I don't mind maintaining Dancer's damage buff but that also feels better because it's more interactive, comes with a high-potency attack, and I get to give it to someone else, too. Side note I've been leveling Dancer and I like it so much more than I thought I would. What a fun job that one is.
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