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pmchem posted:Re: cooler, I considered the NH-D15 but then delved into Noctua’s site where they rate the U14S, U12S, and (surprisingly) even smaller U9S as all top rated for the 12700K: 12700k puts out a ton more heat then the 6700. Like a ridiculous amount more. CPUs are more or less faster because the TDPs are much higher at this point. Even though noctua lists those fans as fine (they probably are) under reasonable load they’ll probably be a lot louder that a D15. The D15 is a step up, even if noctua doesn’t mention it there. IMO the Fuma 2 is your best bet if you’re looking to maximize cost saving AND quiet, while staying quite cool. D15 is the best if you’re looking for the coolest chip. Echoing you could probably save $100 on the SSD by getting the SN750/770 or similar. It’s probably a lot of overkill for something you may see minimal benefit on. If it were me I’d by the cheaper drive now and move to something that intense later if it’s warranted + it’ll be cheaper.
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The Fuma 2 is loving cooling wizardry. Especially for the price It's also silent as gently caress
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hmm ok, you guys have convinced me to explore the Fuma 2. More notes on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vex9_84VpYs GN really loves it, although on the noise-normalized thermals around 6:35 in, the NH-D15 is still better. Weird that Fuma 2 isn't sold at microcenter, and for some reason pcpartpicker isn't letting me select it: possible compatibility issue, probably just the socket, and they sell a mounting kit for that.
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Dec 27, 2021 19:43
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The DH15 is a larger and more expensive cooler. The Fuma 2 is better when you take into account the price point it comes in at. I'm using a Fuma 2 to cool a 3900X in an ITX build atm and it is silent and keeps the temps around 40-45C.
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I want to buy a prebuilt that will last a few years and I don’t need to do anything other than open a box and plug it in. Who are the good makers these days? Budget doesn’t matter
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born on a buy you posted:I want to buy a prebuilt that will last a few years and I don’t need to do anything other than open a box and plug it in. Who are the good makers these days? Budget doesn’t matter If budget really doesn't matter then Origin or someone like that.
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born on a buy you posted:I want to buy a prebuilt that will last a few years and I don’t need to do anything other than open a box and plug it in. Who are the good makers these days? Budget doesn’t matter You do have a budget. We can find you a $10k machine if you want. So please provide a target budget. pmchem posted:hmm ok, you guys have convinced me to explore the Fuma 2. More notes on it: It’s a cost thing. D15 is significantly better but nearly twice the price.
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born on a buy you posted:I want to buy a prebuilt that will last a few years and I don’t need to do anything other than open a box and plug it in. Who are the good makers these days? Budget doesn’t matter Stay away from dell/Alienware who uses lovely custom junk all over. Corsair or Orion use normal parts and have decent shipping times but def more money then hunting for parts yourself.
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born on a buy you posted:I want to buy a prebuilt that will last a few years and I don’t need to do anything other than open a box and plug it in. Who are the good makers these days? Budget doesn’t matter I can't think of a single prebuilt company I'd trust to ship something that just works out of the box. You will at the very least want to give all the components a quick visual inspection. Not to mention most use internal packing materials to keep everything stable inside. The "money is no object" choice is Falcon Northwest. Their 12700k/3080 builds start at $4500. At least one goon (prada slut) has went with them and was pretty happy. The pictures showed a fairly well-built system, but I feel like they don't do anything special enough to warrant that kind of money. I would hope that their builds are at least reliable and the customer support is good. This is a brand that has been around and positioning themselves as a premium high-end choice for decades now. Going off the suggestion above, an equivalent system from Origin runs you $3400 instead (their millenium PC, with a 5000D airflow case, a 12700K, 3080, 32GB of corsair LPX ram, the "1TB OPC approved samsung drive" which is a PM9A1, a good drive). I have no idea how reliable they are, but they seem to have a good reputation, though? This strikes me as an obviously more sensible choice though it's still more expensive than... CyberpowerPC and iBuypower are the everyman choice, though their reputations aren't exactly stellar. iBuypower especially has a pretty cruddy reputation when it comes to customer support and build quality. I've seen a couple goons go to bat for CyberpowerPC before, so they're probably okay, but I'd test every connection and make sure everything is seated properly before turning it on. An equivalent system from CyberpowerPC to the above ones runs you around $2500. This is still something I'd consider overpriced, though it looks like a bargain compared to those others. Do not even consider OEMs like Dell/Alienware, HP, etc. they will sell you terrible thermal nightmares full of proprietary parts.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:You do have a budget. $5k. I really don’t care I just want something that will let me play any game at high settings for a few years
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born on a buy you posted:$5k. I really don’t care I just want something that will let me play any game at high settings for a few years At that price I’d probably falcon northwest or similar. https://www.falcon-nw.com/desktops/talon They actually focus on cooling, and they seem to have very good support so that should significantly help with your plug and play wants. On mobile right now so I can’t configure for you, maybe someone else or if I get in front of a desktop. Not 100% sure on pricing, but… I’d aim for 3080/3090, 12600/12700k if they offer it, 32gb high speed ram, 2TB NVME, with good cooling (high end AIO or full liquid at that price).
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Dec 27, 2021 21:14
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Tyrsell posted:Windows 10 is cheaper to buy than Windows 11. Is there any reason to not just buy Windows 10 and upgrade it to Windows 11, considering Microsoft is offering a free update to everyone with Windows 10? The main thing is not to pay full price. You can still buy a Win 7 license from eBay or SA mart and use that with Win 10, probably with 11 too.
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I think my graphics card is dying. It’s a GTX 760 so literally anything would be an upgrade, but am I hosed regardless or is there anything I can buy for a reasonable price while waiting for the market to unfuck itself?
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CapnAndy posted:I think my graphics card is dying. It’s a GTX 760 so literally anything would be an upgrade, but am I hosed regardless or is there anything I can buy for a reasonable price while waiting for the market to unfuck itself? You’re hosed. Do everything you can to save the card and start looking now.
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Dec 28, 2021 00:48
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CapnAndy posted:I think my graphics card is dying. It’s a GTX 760 so literally anything would be an upgrade, but am I hosed regardless or is there anything I can buy for a reasonable price while waiting for the market to unfuck itself?
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Dec 28, 2021 00:49
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future ghost posted:I bought a 970 in early 2020 for $75, and they're going for $200+, so it kinda seems like you're hosed. My 2080ti is only going for a few hundred more than I bought it for last year though, so you might not hit as hard (relatively) if you go a bit up-market. The reason the 2080ti is going for only a few hundred over MSRP is because it was an overpriced, garbage card that barely surpassed the 1080Ti. That’s nearly the price of a scalped 3070 which is nearly equal in performance with better DLSS and a longer warranty.
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Dec 28, 2021 01:02
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CapnAndy posted:I think my graphics card is dying. It’s a GTX 760 so literally anything would be an upgrade, but am I hosed regardless or is there anything I can buy for a reasonable price while waiting for the market to unfuck itself? My best buys have 1030s Are you near a Microcenter
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Dec 28, 2021 01:05
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Y’know what, for these purposes I am going to define “there’s one 30 miles away” as being near one. So yes I am.
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Dec 28, 2021 01:09
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:The reason the 2080ti is going for only a few hundred over MSRP is because it was an overpriced, garbage card that barely surpassed the 1080Ti.
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Dec 28, 2021 01:17
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Yeah I'd appreciate it if GPUs went back to saner pricing already. It's nuts how long the craze has been going, and there are no signs of it letting up.
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Dec 28, 2021 01:52
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CapnAndy posted:Y’know what, for these purposes I am going to define “there’s one 30 miles away” as being near one. So yes I am. Quite near considering, my fellow.
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Dec 28, 2021 02:25
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DamnGlitch posted:Quite near considering, my fellow.
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Dec 28, 2021 04:09
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CapnAndy posted:And as my GPU has moved with rapid speed from "may be dying" to "is dead and my computer is now routing everything through the on-board GPU", I guess I'm taking a drive tomorrow. Is what's available gonna be that much better than your igpu? Unless you're planning on spending a more considerable amount.
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I'll warn you that RTX 3060s are often going for $500+ these days, so even retail prices on models that are miraculously available may stretch your definition of "reasonably priced." The 1650 may be the lowest-priced GPU still in production that's capable of modern gaming, and that'll probably be $250-$300? That's a GPU that debuted two years ago at around $170 iirc.
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Dec 28, 2021 04:24
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CapnAndy posted:Y’know what, for these purposes I am going to define “there’s one 30 miles away” as being near one. So yes I am. Which one is it? Maybe I can give you an idea what stock is like
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I mean yeah if you are looking for a decent gpu without totally sentencing yourself to a ten month stint in igpu land, you gotta put aside 600$ and hope you can get under but plan not to. God willing tho you can find something on the shelf at mc. Cross you fingers, toss your salt over your shoulder, knock on wood and make an offering.
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You have to get to Microcenter early for the raffle or get there right before they put any remaining cards not sold in the raffle up for sale (3PM at my location). There's a discord channel with employees in it that's really helpful if you want to snag a card.
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There’s gotta be a beater card at least. Even ours has beater cards leftover always
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pmchem posted:has anyone here returned computer parts to newegg recently and if so how did it go? they have a couple good deals today but I usually buy from amazon or microcenter because their return policies are so much more customer friendly And I'm still waiting for them to mail it back to me so I can try to get the manufacturer to replace it lol
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Rinkles posted:Is what's available gonna be that much better than your igpu? Unless you're planning on spending a more considerable amount. Alan Smithee posted:My man I wish I was 30 miles from Microcenter okay it’s like 44 but still. Just keep in mind it’s probably 1 per month per household but you can always exchange it for something if you find a better card
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CapnAndy posted:My motherboard is an ASUS Z-97 and I just checked the specs and its IGPU is "lol no", so yeah, literally anything functioning would be an improvement. I’m confused. You said in an earlier post you’re currently using the iGPU? Also iGPU is dictated by CPU, not motherboard.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:I’m confused. All I know is I got stuff on my monitor somehow but I drat sure can't play any games, and even the internet and basic typing are a little laggy. Oh, and I also know that the fans are running too loud, like they do when I'm under heavy CPU load, even though I'm not doing anything.
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CapnAndy posted:My motherboard is an ASUS Z-97 and I just checked the specs and its IGPU is "lol no", so yeah, literally anything functioning would be an improvement. 
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CapnAndy posted:If it helps, I'm confused too. This was never supposed to run like this and honestly, as far as I can tell, I don't seem to have one? I know that the motherboard has a DVI plug so it must have something, my CPU is an Intel Core i5 4690, my monitor is still plugged into the GTX's DVI plug, and that Windows is telling me that it sees the GTX 760 but it has error code 43, so it's disabled it and I'm running on Microsoft Basic Display Driver instead. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/80810/intel-core-i54690-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz/specifications.html You do have an iGPU, and you have a motherboard capable of running an iGPU (there would be no video port if you didn’t). But if you’re plugged into your GPU, then you’re not running on the iGPU. Microsoft basic display driver means you’re running on the windows video driver, and not nvidia’s. What troubleshooting have you done? In your case, I would use DDU to remove the driver, shut down and remove the GPU, readd it back in and reinstall the driver before considering buying a new card. If that doesn’t work, in the meantime plugging your video cable directly into your motherboard should result in much better performance.
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So I shouldn’t go tomorrow?Pilfered Pallbearers posted:What troubleshooting have you done? In your case, I would use DDU to remove the driver, shut down and remove the GPU, readd it back in and reinstall the driver before considering buying a new card.
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CapnAndy posted:So I shouldn’t go tomorrow? No idea. I don’t have experience there. They might be chill and stick to that regular drop schedule or they might be like ours and actively hate people who shop there If I’m up in the morning I’ll post anything if people call it on discord
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You can also use the BB app trick but I’m not seeing much besides a 80ti MSI and you don’t want that If you just need something for tomorrow it looks like there’s 1030s everywhere
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