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homullus posted:I enjoy Eberron newspaper gnomes. I mean that’s cheating, every D&D race is better in Eberron.
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Glazius posted:I mean, there was also this official promotional animated spot where a gnome was complaining about only making the MM cut, not the PHB, and a tiefling set his badger on fire. Splicer fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Dec 30, 2021 |
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Calico Heart posted:lol what a loving nerd, gnomes rule evanescence elves drool
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Eladrin were a sensible development because, much like wizards being a horrifying amalgsmate of everyone in all of fiction that's ever cast a spell, elves were every single fictional depiction of an elf rolled together. Separating at least the wood elf and high elf depictions out gives them a much more coherent racial fiction and identity.
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Yes, but they’re very serious, you see, and not comedy, unlike David the Gnome.
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potatocubed posted:Just a side comment here. The friction with GW isn't 'how do I assemble and paint miniatures', it's having to assemble and paint the bloody things at all. For a least a decent part of the player-base, that's not the friction, that's the game. A lot of these details that are getting written off as friction are, to at least a segment of the market, product differentiators that buyers look for. For example: I play both warhammer tabletop and also Total War Warhammer. Total War Warhammer let's me play any army with any models I want with about 5-10 minutes of start up. Sometimes, though, I want the tactile feedback of actually pushing models around a table. And it was the art aspect of painting (with 10-15 different pots of paint) that drew me back in after a break in playing. I've got an entire faction complete army that I've never played with, I just like the painting/modeling aspect of the factio .
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Night10194 posted:I am trying very hard to think of an RPG improved by gnomes, and I cannot.
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Cassius Belli posted:Fairy Meat? Did they go through with the idea of asking the players to use actual garden gnomes as “minis” to represent gnomes at fairy scale?
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Splicer posted:I'm a certified elf hater and I still do not understand what kind of elf you're talking about. I do honestly think he is talking about tieflings and just can't tell the difference
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Mors Rattus posted:Yes, but they’re very serious, you see, and not comedy, unlike David the Gnome. 
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David the Gnome was a respectable member of his community.
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Talking bout Eladrin, the elves who are canonically sad and brooding for 1/4 of their lives and who in half their art look like they’re wearing tranchcoats People itt who can’t appreciate a good gnome are shameful tbh like lol D&D is already the silliest hobby on earth just embrace it and enjoy playing a bunny bard or gnome paladin or FLUMPF
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moths posted:Organizer Play is a huge fix to this, actually. "Come the the LGS on Wednesday, we play D&D" is definitely a thing that WotC promotes, with absurd success. My FLGS did try to open this to multiple games (although only mainstream ones) but the virus seriously limited it. The problem with this is that RPG groups aren't like board games where they can re-form every week. If you're the gooseberry one week in an RPG session, you're that way for potentially several months. hyphz fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Dec 30, 2021 |
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Calico Heart posted:Talking bout Eladrin, the elves who are canonically sad and brooding for 1/4 of their lives and who in half their art look like they’re wearing tranchcoats
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Calico Heart posted:Talking bout Eladrin, the elves who are canonically sad and brooding for 1/4 of their lives and who in half their art look like they’re wearing tranchcoats are you really sure the tack you wanna take is to claim everyone else is being too serious while you complain that you don't like hot topic elves
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hyphz posted:Did they go through with the idea of asking the players to use actual garden gnomes as “minis” to represent gnomes at fairy scale? They did release official "mechanized" gnomes with all their war accoutrements (~5-6 inches tall), but I vaguely remember rules for garden gnomes, too. It's been a long while.
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Calico Heart posted:like lol D&D is already the silliest hobby on earth video game speed runs, collecting reborn dolls, and gnome supremacy seem sillier to me
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Can anyone explain to me how a gnome is different than a halfling in any way that actually matters.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Why are you arguing with TheDiceMustRoll as if you're talking to a Hasbro rep? WotC are doing amazing with the terrible ways they're running now, I'm sure if things flag they'll come and get business advice from you. Better things aren't possible
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Mr. Maltose posted:Can anyone explain to me how a gnome is different than a halfling in any way that actually matters. Halflings are short humans who like eating 8 meals a day. Gnomes are short humans who like doing steampunk super-science.
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Sounds like a halfling and a halfling nerd to me tbh
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d&d gnomes and halflings tend towards different awful ethnic stereotypes
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Coolness Averted posted:this is a refreshing new strain of grog. I've never seen someone just make poo poo up about eladrin then when called on it say "lol you just take elfgame too seriously" Eladrin literally brood 1/4 of their lives because their emotions (and I think appearance) are tied to the season. From limited time with 4e it looked like it was the edition where they were trying to distance themselves from D&D’s sillier routes which I think is more boring and also a sign of the era in which it was designed 
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Calico Heart posted:Eladrin literally brood 1/4 of their lives because their emotions (and I think appearance) are tied to the season.
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PharmerBoy posted:For a least a decent part of the player-base, that's not the friction, that's the game. A lot of these details that are getting written off as friction are, to at least a segment of the market, product differentiators that buyers look for. Yeah, that's a good point. I was being grumpy.
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Calico Heart posted:Eladrin literally brood 1/4 of their lives because their emotions (and I think appearance) are tied to the season. It’s weird how you think that seasonal mood ring elves are somehow the opposite of silly
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homullus posted:video game speed runs, collecting reborn dolls, and gnome supremacy seem sillier to me Video game speed runs own. Just watch any Summoning Salt video. Ego Trip posted:Better things aren't possible Raise your hand if you want Wizards of the Coast to take up even more RPG oxygen than they already do.
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Are you familiar with the concept of an example?
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I don't know, could you illustrate it to me?
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Calico Heart posted:Eladrin literally brood 1/4 of their lives because their emotions (and I think appearance) are tied to the season. I can't find anything attaching them to seasons until 5e which looks like it combined them with wilden.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't know, could you illustrate it to me? Do you have an actual argument about why he's wrong or are you only bad faith noise posting?
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Ego Trip posted:Do you have an actual argument about why he's wrong or are you only bad faith noise posting? I think going at another poster like they're representing a company that they're just describing is bizarre. If TheDiceMustRoll were trying to break into the industry and not listening to critiques about the way their company is running, that would be another thing.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I think going at another poster like they're representing a company that they're just describing is bizarre. If TheDiceMustRoll were trying to break into the industry and not listening to critiques about the way their company is running, that would be another thing.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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You just said that you don't have anything to say about the argument, only the way in which it was delivered.
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get a room
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Being abrasive over differences of opinions about how major elfgames' are being managed is loving dumb as hell. Being Abrasive over a new loving elf being added instead of gnomes is 100% valid and on brand for this forum. I personally encourage it.
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Calico Heart posted:Talking bout Eladrin, the elves who are canonically sad and brooding for 1/4 of their lives and who in half their art look like they’re wearing tranchcoats I think you paid too much attention to idiots edition warring back in like 2009-2010. Gnomes weren't in the PHB1 probably both because they were really dumb extras in 1e through 3.5e, and partly because they needed more development time in the oven to make them at all good with an identity beyond 'those dwarves or maybe halflings who can be illusionists' e: Oh and 'who can talk to moles and groundhogs for some reason' - I forgot that crucial bit of gnomonic identity
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Coolness Averted posted:Are you sure you're not mixing up 4e Eladrin with 5e? 4e Eladrin were just high elves but given a distinction and reason to be treated differently from wood elves. In a truly shocking twist, the person complaining about 4E has in fact not read 4E.
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