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Atlas Hugged posted:Living overseas, I bring it up anytime I drink with Australians. There's a clear line between those that adore the episode and those that are absolutely outraged by it. I've never met one luke warm on it. This is the very first time where I've heard it suggested in any form that the episode was not met by universal acclaim and delight by literally every Australian.
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The vast majority like it. The type that don't like it are the type that loving hate everything anyway and are unsurprisingly miserable to drink with.
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Dec 30, 2021 06:11
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Atlas Hugged posted:The vast majority like it. The type that don't like it are the type that loving hate everything anyway and are unsurprisingly miserable to drink with.
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Dec 30, 2021 06:20
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A lot of Australians say they are self deprecating but when someone else is making the jokes at their expense they get very lovely. Also a lot of it simply went over their heads at the time 'That's not what Australia is like!' failing to understand much of it is a parody of how Australia presented itself to the US and the world in the 80s. The 30 years of electricity stamp still is loving perfect.
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Dec 30, 2021 07:30
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spaceblancmange posted:A lot of Australians say they are self deprecating but when someone else is making the jokes at their expense they get very lovely. A lot of Brits do the same thing, though admittedly it's mostly when it's Americans who are making the jokes. I forget that "Australia mania" was a thing, though in my defence it was from just before I was born. Paingod556 posted:The only legit issue- nobody drinks Fosters, it's a beer for poms. No way mate, I think even most of us know that Fosters is piss. I hope so at least!
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Dec 30, 2021 11:09
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Do Australians address the PM as "mr prime minister" or just "prime minister"?
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Dec 30, 2021 11:31
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These days, it's 'fuckwit'.
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Dec 30, 2021 11:50
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Paingod556 posted:The only legit issue- nobody drinks Fosters, it's a beer for poms. The funny thing is all my friends who have been to Australia have said that pretty much all Australian beer is just as bad as Fosters, if not worse.
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Dec 30, 2021 12:06
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I'm not a big beer drinker but apparently VB is at least better than it was (not a big accomplishment), and if you're in a city you're likely to have a few craft options at least. Tbf I can see the appeal of something that's tasteless but icy cold if you're in the middle of the desert.
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Dec 30, 2021 12:10
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Young Einstein is a cinematic masterpiece and I won’t hear nothing ill of it 
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Dec 30, 2021 12:30
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The Tasmanian beer I had was pretty decent from what I remember.
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Dec 30, 2021 12:33
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spaceblancmange posted:A lot of Australians say they are self deprecating but when someone else is making the jokes at their expense they get very lovely. i mean it is self deprecation. if a member of a group makes jokes at that groups expense and a member of an outgroup joins in, it gets a different vibe
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Dec 30, 2021 13:43
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The thing about Australian beer is that it is very regionally based by states. VB is piss, Coopers pale ale all the way mate! I remember not liking the australian episode as a kid when it came out, but now I think it is the funniest thing ever. Def one of my top ten eps.
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Dec 30, 2021 14:02
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I imagine that most Australians who hate the episode are olds now. Streetcar Named Marge pissed off the Louisiana government.
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Dec 30, 2021 14:45
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The miserable old fucks who hate Halloween, there's a certain strain of thankfully dying out old Australian who hates everything American and fun... probably because they're the ones who still think they're English, actually. That'd explain a lot.
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Dec 30, 2021 15:41
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Detective No. 27 posted:I imagine that most Australians who hate the episode are olds now. The people I know who hate the episode were in their 30s and 40s so old depending on your definition of old. They would at least have been old enough to remember the episode when it was new, so I can't actually imagine anyone under 30 hating it.
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Dec 30, 2021 16:07
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You know what was always an underrated gag? Whenever something unusual happened to that teenage employee in whatever situation and he yelled out "Uh... Mr. (Managers name)." https://youtu.be/FeF2QiwyDGM I know there was a similar moment at a Krusty Burger in one episode.
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Dec 30, 2021 16:51
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The simpsons and king of the hill both captured different aspects of the working teenager experience really well
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Dec 30, 2021 17:23
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Detective No. 27 posted:I imagine that most Australians who hate the episode are olds now. I always look at that episode as one of the earliest, and still most extreme, examples of Jerkass homer. He’s such a bastard in that episode.
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Dec 30, 2021 17:33
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Calico Heart posted:I always look at that episode as one of the earliest, and still most extreme, examples of Jerkass homer. He’s such a bastard in that episode. That's not Jerkass Homer. That's just regular "lovely husband" Homer. Jerkass Homer is more actively and intentionally cruel, not just seemingly uncaring and selfish
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Dec 30, 2021 17:38
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American Dad wastes a lot of time every episode, but the time wasting is usually pretty funny so it's winning me over. They could probably do with a funnier intro though.
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Dec 31, 2021 02:55
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:American Dad wastes a lot of time every episode, but the time wasting is usually pretty funny so it's winning me over. Is this your first time watching American Dad? You're in for a treat. There's definitely a point where they realize they can do whatever they want and the writers are never afraid to get weird with it.
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Dec 31, 2021 03:32
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Detective No. 27 posted:Is this your first time watching American Dad? You're in for a treat. There's definitely a point where they realize they can do whatever they want and the writers are never afraid to get weird with it. First time with the latter half of the series.
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Dec 31, 2021 03:35
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My favorite AD bit remains the one that begins with Franny and Roger going to a dance competition and ends with her throwing Roger off a cliff while he's wearing his dead wife's hair.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:40
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Detective No. 27 posted:Streetcar Named Marge pissed off the Louisiana government. I WILL NOT DEFAME NEW ORLEANS I WILL NOT DEFAME NEW ORLEANS I WILL NOT DEFAME NEW ORLEANS e: Calico Heart posted:I always look at that episode as one of the earliest, and still most extreme, examples of Jerkass homer. He’s such a bastard in that episode. Slightly later (fifth season), allow me to submit "Homer Goes to College". My heart still aches for that poor dean. Homer thinking everything was playing out according to a 70s comedy script was a good gag, but drat it was cruel. Data Graham fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Dec 31, 2021 |
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Dec 31, 2021 13:34
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Data Graham posted:Slightly later (fifth season), allow me to submit "Homer Goes to College". I've been called a stupid head myself and it never stops hurting
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Dec 31, 2021 14:21
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:That's not Jerkass Homer. That's just regular "lovely husband" Homer. Jerkass Homer is more actively and intentionally cruel, not just seemingly uncaring and selfish It’s admittedly been a while, but in addition to not caring about Marge I think he does actively berate her new passion and discourage her from doing something that makes her happy. If I recall in the last five seconds of the episode he says “you were good” and she forgives him which is for my money a very early example of unearned forgiveness. But whatever! They were writing 22 episodes a season and it can be hard to tell how something will translate from script to screen
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Dec 31, 2021 17:04
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Calico Heart posted:It’s admittedly been a while, but in addition to not caring about Marge I think he does actively berate her new passion and discourage her from doing something that makes her happy. If I recall in the last five seconds of the episode he says “you were good” and she forgives him which is for my money a very early example of unearned forgiveness. I think the distinction for me is that the characters are intentionally mirroring characters in the play in that episode in a way that is logically consistent and helps drive the plot. Compared to later episodes where Homer is verbally and physically abusive, seemingly invulnerable, and has the mentality and risk evaluation capabilities of a toddler, with no larger purpose beyond "cartoon man is wacky" New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Dec 31, 2021 |
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The episode where Homer's redemption feels the most unearned is the one where he teaches the marriage class and keeps spilling intimate details of his and Marge's relationship against her wishes. That one ends with them saying Homer needs Marge because he will probably be dead within 48 hours of being separated from Marge and Marge needs Homer because it's 20 minutes in a 22 minute episode and they need to get back to the status quo.
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Dec 31, 2021 19:25
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Detective No. 27 posted:The episode where Homer's redemption feels the most unearned is the one where he teaches the marriage class and keeps spilling intimate details of his and Marge's relationship against her wishes. That one ends with them saying Homer needs Marge because he will probably be dead within 48 hours of being separated from Marge and Marge needs Homer because it's 20 minutes in a 22 minute episode and they need to get back to the status quo. That episode at least understands how hosed up his argument is.
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Dec 31, 2021 20:33
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Seasons 5 & 6 are definitely a bit wackier and nastier on average than the seasons either side of it, although crucially still very funny, but Jerkass Homer largely fades into the background again in season 7 & 8. It's a funny one because the Mirkin seasons really feel like a prelude to the bad years but after that we had another two years of relatively wholesome and reigned in slice of life Simpsons with Oakley & Weinstein before the jerkass was truly unleashed in season 9
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Dec 31, 2021 20:51
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PostNouveau posted:That episode at least understands how hosed up his argument is. Yeah it was a very intentionally salient twist on the redemption trope which in today's lens has become too close to the reality of common toxic behaviors.
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Dec 31, 2021 21:00
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There's a new Simpsons Histories video about Sideshow Mel and there's a gross moment where he talks about how there's a thing in a later episode where Mel has a sex robot that he made from an animatronic fox.
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muscles like this! posted:There's a new Simpsons Histories video about Sideshow Mel and there's a gross moment where he talks about how there's a thing in a later episode where Mel has a sex robot that he made from an animatronic fox. What the gently caress 
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Dec 31, 2021 21:54
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:American Dad wastes a lot of time every episode, but the time wasting is usually pretty funny so it's winning me over. Is it really wasting time if they're being funny while they're doing it? Das Boo posted:My favorite AD bit remains the one that begins with Franny and Roger going to a dance competition and ends with her throwing Roger off a cliff while he's wearing his dead wife's hair. Mine will probably forever be the one where the frat boys ride Roger's limo without paying and Roger ends up mowing them down one by one in increasingly bizarre ways.
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Dec 31, 2021 22:27
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Detective No. 27 posted:You know what was always an underrated gag? Whenever something unusual happened to that teenage employee in whatever situation and he yelled out "Uh... Mr. (Managers name)." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AJ2IPcOg_I I've always been partial to this one (1m25s, since I can't ever remember how to timestamp on the forums): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGcrDroQglE
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wrt Tamzarian, it's a real last name. I think someone already posted the real-world Armen Tamzarian, who's a judge in LA. any name that ends in -arian/-aroyan is almost certainly Armenian, or so I have been told by people who are Armenian
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Dec 31, 2021 22:39
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muscles like this! posted:There's a new Simpsons Histories video about Sideshow Mel and there's a gross moment where he talks about how there's a thing in a later episode where Mel has a sex robot that he made from an animatronic fox. lol that owns
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sideshow mel the five nights at freddies fucker
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Das Boo posted:My favorite AD bit remains the one that begins with Franny and Roger going to a dance competition and ends with her throwing Roger off a cliff while he's wearing his dead wife's hair. YeahTubaMike posted:Mine will probably forever be the one where the frat boys ride Roger's limo without paying and Roger ends up mowing them down one by one in increasingly bizarre ways. Both of these are top tier Roger moments. Also, this: https://i.imgur.com/6cOd1Hb.mp4
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