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enki42 posted:You act like Canada has been in a consistent state of lockdown. My summer was basically not impacted (and I take more precautions than what's officially recommended). I mean, I agree with you but stuff hasn't been normal in so long My friend group which used to meet every week or two for drinks and a few times a summer for camping trips has basically hung out twice in two years. I haven't seen my mum or family for two years. There is also a vague feeling of dread all the time. Just because we haven't been in official 'lockdown' doesn't mean people have been carrying on as normal edit: I should have refreshed I think we are all in agreement with each other, poo poo loving sucks and everyone is tired Alctel fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Dec 31, 2021 |
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Dec 31, 2021 20:16
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Personally I've been isolating as much as is reasonable possible; working from home, ordering groceries online when feasible (these apps aren't perfect so...), avoiding attending classes in person except for when there isn't much of a choice. A couple of exceptions but like 96.75% of my time is spend staying put.
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Dec 31, 2021 20:41
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Raenir Salazar posted:Personally I've been isolating as much as is reasonable possible; working from home, ordering groceries online when feasible (these apps aren't perfect so...), avoiding attending classes in person except for when there isn't much of a choice. So have I... there were a few cool months between getting vaccinated and Omicron arriving to wreck our poo poo, I went to restaurants like once or twice a month. I want this poo poo to be done, and I don't see how we reach that place from here without the government telling everyone they need to be doing what most of us here have been doing this whole time.
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Dec 31, 2021 20:44
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There is no normal anymore. Its dead, grieve for it like you would a loved one and get over it.
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Dec 31, 2021 20:53
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apatheticman posted:There is no normal anymore. so I'm never going to be able to see my friends or family again? That's a bit bleak
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Dec 31, 2021 21:10
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PT6A posted:I want this poo poo to be done, and I don't see how we reach that place from here without the government telling everyone they need to be doing what most of us here have been doing this whole time. How does this action result in this poo poo being done? What about the next variant, and the one after that?
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Dec 31, 2021 21:45
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It's funny to me that at least in BC they're openly banking on this being a burn out phase leading to it just being an endemic virus with no strong evidence. Just a hunch and a desire to do nothing even with over a month to prepare. Just rolling the bones.
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Dec 31, 2021 21:51
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Count Roland posted:How does this action result in this poo poo being done? What about the next variant, and the one after that? 1) Therapeutics are coming, mass production starts in January 2) Other variants will have to outcompete Omicron and that's unlikely from an evolutionary science perspective. There's good reason to believe this wave is COVID: Endgame.
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Dec 31, 2021 21:52
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Alctel posted:so I'm never going to be able to see my friends or family again? That's a bit bleak No, you can see your friends and family but it will always be under the guise of some sort of cost benefit analysis that we'll all have to do every time we go out.
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Dec 31, 2021 22:23
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Ontario is also not reporting cases in schools anymore. Just going full Florida for Omicron. https://twitter.com/CBCToronto/status/1477051956988461065
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Jan 1, 2022 00:11
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Tomorrow Doug is going to say they're still reporting COVID cases in schools and blame the federal Liberals for the confusion.
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Jan 1, 2022 00:15
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And Lecce is still defending the plan to open schools on Wednesday, so expect them to announce that schools will remain closed on Tuesday.
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Jan 1, 2022 00:25
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Just cartoonishly evil.
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Jan 1, 2022 01:39
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apatheticman posted:There is no normal anymore. I've been wondering for a while what people are looking for when they want "back to normal". If covid magically disappeared tomorrow we'd still be dealing with the collective trauma from the pandemic for the rest of our lives. Like I can think of many possible answers, but we all say "back to normal" as if that was some consistent, reachable goal, and I just don't see it. edit: The near-total lockdown in March/April 2020 completely changed how I view a lot of our society, both positive and negative. I'm never going back to my prior outlook.
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Jan 1, 2022 02:14
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I would like to be able to visit friends or go to a bar and chat with my neighbours without having to consider the moral calculus of discretionary outings during a global pandemic.
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Jan 1, 2022 02:20
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pokeyman posted:
I'm genuinely curious about what you mean by this. How did it change your perspective on society?
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Jan 1, 2022 02:37
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hillaryous clinton posted:I'm genuinely curious about what you mean by this. How did it change your perspective on society? Commuting to the office, offices, jobs just supporting office work are stupid as gently caress and the people pushing to get it back are even stupider and I'll avoid it for the rest of my life e; happy new year
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Jan 1, 2022 03:47
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I want to be able to go outside at a time of my choosing, to a place of my choosing, without fearing for my life and the lives of those I love. That’s the normalcy I want back.
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Jan 1, 2022 04:32
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When trying to bring normalcy back to Canada whilst at the same time trying to reduce COVID-19 cases we musn't let perfect be the enemy of good. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 1, 2022 04:40
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Wizard Master posted:When trying to bring normalcy back to Canada whilst at the same time trying to reduce COVID-19 cases we musn't let perfect be the enemy of good. What is this gimmick anyway?
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Jan 1, 2022 05:02
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Manitoba changed their self-isolation requirements at end of day today without any big notification. Looks like we're following the US' lead:quote:The changes include:
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Jan 1, 2022 05:33
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infernal machines posted:What is this gimmick anyway? https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1476049896725749769
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Jan 1, 2022 06:12
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Evil_Greven posted:I assume that poster is alluding to this with regards to the Quebec curfew: Yeah, just the part where they post the same tepid take in four COVID threads with minor variations.
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Jan 1, 2022 06:14
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https://twitter.com/vitacoreinc/status/1477125200164507652?t=XGBJKYzoay8muYwjbotEVw&s=19 Very normal situation where private industry has to step in to do the PHO's job. Very normal and cool.
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Jan 1, 2022 07:58
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hillaryous clinton posted:I'm genuinely curious about what you mean by this. How did it change your perspective on society? Some combination of "look what we can do if we decide it's important" and "we are so hosed". 1. We shut down way further than I thought we would and gave out way more money in supports than I expected. (This says way more about my low expectations and is not praise for the generally pathetic response from our governments.) 2. More people than I expected will follow sensible guidelines and pitch in without enforcement/penalties. I saw this with mask wearing and social distancing early, then vaccination and volunteer-staffed testing clinics later (the last two may be somewhat specific to Nova Scotia). 3. The incompetent (at best) or mendacious (more likely) early response from public health officials ("masks hurt you") was so much stupider than my Twitter timeline ("wear a loving mask"). Our ability to squander a couple months' warning made me feel very isolated from the people supposedly leading me. And something so arbitrary as one's Twitter followers making a meaningful difference in pandemic preparedness doesn't feel great. 4. March 2020 was an unplanned experiment for seeing what happens to carbon emissions when we turn off our economy as far as we dare, and the effect was gently caress all. (This was probably unsurprising to anyone paying attention.) I guess sometimes I'm a slow learner or need to be hit over the head with some obvious truths.
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Jan 1, 2022 09:18
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Another Bill posted:1) Therapeutics are coming, mass production starts in January This is absolutely preposterous. Omicron was not expected or planned for. Covid has shown it mutates readily. The common cold is partly caused by corona viruses that have continually adapted over the past hundred years. To assume we've seen the worst of covid is wishful thinking and nothing more. And this is exactly what I was initially talking about. Governments must plan for worst case scenarios, not ones where the problem just goes away. PS: forums poster Another Bill, please don't take this personally, I know this post is a bit intense but I'm disagreeing with the idea, not yourself.
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Jan 1, 2022 15:13
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pokeyman posted:Some combination of "look what we can do if we decide it's important" and "we are so hosed". Watching the different styles of governance on this planet over my lifetime, I often found myself impressed if not amazed by China and the asian communist-ish bloc’s ability to mobilize and actually direct energy to the public good. I understood that this involved restrictions I would object to (though on that front my assessment of both that system and ours has radically altered as new examples present themselves) but it was quite incredible what they could manage. I also thought that, while our system has a lot of problems, it would also have its methods of dealing with, oh, let’s say, a Pandemic. It would cost more money than it needed to but we would also be able to deal with a crisis like that. Now, I see clearly. We have simply been getting lucky for decades. We were never ready to deal with any widespread crisis. Even a local crisis, we are barely able to prepare for, let alone properly respond. Our entire premise of government is an illusion, all that matters is keeping cash flowing to capital holders and not altering that relationship at all, if at all possible. I don’t see how this event doesn’t make one lose faith in the idea that representative democracy as we construct it is a sham. We have no real capacity to organize, respond or even care for our people direction and organization are most needed. Our public service has no method, plan, or capacity to keep things functioning without just letting business go on as usual as much as possible, even knowing this will exacerbate the crisis. Even then, when we have months of time to prepare for the next pivot, which every rational assessment would tell us to expect, we don’t increase testing capacity, we don’t get contact tracing in place, we don’t get supplies mobilized for localized lockdowns, we don’t on board more people for the coming crunch in medical care. We simply close our eyes and hope the market will deal with it. Our government might as well almost not be there; all it does is obfuscate decisions taken by our real masters, corporate and rent-seeker profits. I don’t know what a good system of government would be, and I don’t say we should just jump and become part of China or exactly like them, but whatever criticisms we have of them (real or made up for foreign policy purposes), the only rational assessment is we are clearly doing something wrong that they are getting right. Ron Paul Atreides fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jan 1, 2022 |
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Jan 1, 2022 15:21
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PT6A posted:You think I'm picking fights over things people haven't said, and you're saying I'm ignoring the mental health effects of the giant uncontrolled pandemic going on? Are you on crack? In response to being asked to stop reacting unpleasantly to things that others didn't actually say, you accused me of something untethered to anything I said and then suggesed that I was the one on crack. Have a better year in 2022 dude.
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Jan 1, 2022 16:37
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Maneck posted:In response to being asked to stop reacting unpleasantly to things that others didn't actually say, you accused me of something untethered to anything I said and then suggesed that I was the one on crack. You can work on your literacy this year, jackass.
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Jan 1, 2022 17:31
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Count Roland posted:Omicron was not expected or planned for. Covid has shown it mutates readily. lol
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Jan 1, 2022 17:34
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Watching the different styles of governance on this planet over my lifetime, I often found myself impressed if not amazed by China and the asian communist-ish bloc’s ability to mobilize and actually direct energy to the public good. I understood that this involved restrictions I would object to (though on that front my assessment of both that system and ours has radically altered as new examples present themselves) but it was quite incredible what they could manage. China is communist in name only. It’s a traditional centralized authoritarian power. They function similarly to Prussia and differ only in that they don’t have a monarchy. It’s basically state capitalism. What you’re asking for isn’t the Chinese communist system, you just want a strong central government. Which all western societies used to have until the 1980s when parliaments and other authorities became weakened in favour of capital holders. The fact is our governments are weak and ineffectual now. The private sector controls the media and public opinion. They regularly manipulate what we see and think and anything that hurts their class interests results in propaganda that weakens a government until a capital friendly one takes their place. We are rapidly progressing towards an anarcho-capitalist system. In China they are using a model where there’s various state owned enterprises driving a lot of the major capital growth and no system for capital to buy legislation. I don’t want the Chinese system because I’m suspicious of stuff like their social credit system and the amount of censorship and other forms of control they engage in. I’m hopeful that their rise will force western countries to get off their asses and compete rather than succumb to corporate pressure to do what China says so they can get rich off the Chinese markets.
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Jan 1, 2022 18:07
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I mean, the Chinese government isn’t terribly worried about “the public good” so much as loss of productivity and possible civil unrest.
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Jan 1, 2022 18:17
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Count Roland posted:This is absolutely preposterous. Likewise friend, try and find some hope in your life. Looking at the future without hope is a dark place to be.
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Jan 1, 2022 18:18
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I think there's hope whether this is the worst of COVID or not, but I would feel significantly better about the state of things if we saw examples of our governments reacting in a sane way to the situation.
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Jan 1, 2022 18:20
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TheCenturion posted:I mean, the Chinese government isn’t terribly worried about “the public good” so much as loss of productivity and possible civil unrest. Mhm. Because those perfidious asians can’t value human life more than we do. Predictable
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Jan 1, 2022 18:36
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Mhm. Because those perfidious asians can’t value human life more than we do. Lol
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Jan 1, 2022 18:46
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Mhm. Because those perfidious asians can’t value human life more than we do. I don’t think that he meant to make that a racist comment. Just that the CPC doesn’t do things out of the goodness of their hearts but rather whatever Machiavellian design let’s them maintain their grip on power. Starting with Deng Xiao Ping they made a deal with their people. As long as the money and economic growth keeps flowing all the liberals will keep their mouths shut and unrest will be minimal. It’s the same sort of arrangement as Imperial Russia under the Witte system or Mexico under Porfirio Diaz. If their economy ever ends up in an asset price bubble the way Japan’s did and then crashes it’ll be some very interesting times. Evergrande was supposed to be the start of that crisis but it looks like they found a way to avert it.
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Jan 1, 2022 18:55
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terrorist ambulance posted:Being stuck in when me, or anyone I'm responsible for, has coughs or sniffles, sucks. Not being able to have them play sports or go swimming or do things sucks. That situation lasting 2 years loving sucks. It's the loving worst. I feel like I'm living in a Groundhog Day situation but every day ends with me wondering how Dogtooth my kids will be because of what I and the world can't offer them right now. Gros Tarla posted:Thanks for this. This is insanely hard. I see people shout all the time about how its our choice we had kids, how you should take care of em and stop hoping someone else will. I feel this. One kid right before COVID, one kid right in the middle. We look at them with these tired eyes and just have to shrug. What else can we do for you? What else is wise? What risks should I take with your health? Are the reasons good enough? Can our marriage survive this? Can your little baby brain? All these questions keep me up at night and I dream about putting a brick through the window of Jason Kenney's constituency office in Minecraft.
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Jan 1, 2022 19:02
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StoicRomance posted:It's the loving worst. I feel like I'm living in a Groundhog Day situation but every day ends with me wondering how Dogtooth my kids will be because of what I and the world can't offer them right now. Can I ask a possibly stupid question and obviously you don't have to answer: was the middle-of-covid kid intentional and did you consider holding off? It sounds like, in retrospect, delaying might've been better for y'all.
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Jan 1, 2022 19:23
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Kraftwerk posted:I don’t think that he meant to make that a racist comment. Just that the CPC doesn’t do things out of the goodness of their hearts but rather whatever Machiavellian design let’s them maintain their grip on power. Yeah, whatever you loving say. Predictable. Delusional cope. Our government lets tens of thousands of us die or get irreperable damage from a pandemic but rest assured, the governments that actually moved to control it were didnt really care. Whatever. We deserve what’s happening to us. gently caress Canada.
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Jan 1, 2022 19:23
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