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BlackMK4 posted:
Turns out maybe the secret to better gas mileage is not weighing 5000 lbs?
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Koirhor posted:Dealer basically laughed at me for trying to find a civic sport (nonturbo) hatch w/manual You can’t get a non turbo hatch that’s why only the sedan or coupe The non turbo is the engine to get though
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Elephanthead posted:You can’t get a non turbo hatch that’s why only the sedan or coupe Why? Isn’t the 1.5T a really good engine? I’ve driven it and it’s a major improvement over the NA engine in the base models.
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Kraftwerk posted:Why? Isn’t the 1.5T a really good engine? I’ve driven it and it’s a major improvement over the NA engine in the base models. Oil dilution problems
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BlackMK4 posted:
That's a few hundred pounds heavier than I expected tbh. Maybe the Maverick is bigger IRL than I think it is from photos.
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Qmass posted:no you guys are right, tesla doesn't sell any cars off the back of their absurd 0-60s Who are you “you guysing” here? The one guy that said that?
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FBS posted:That's a few hundred pounds heavier than I expected tbh. Maybe the Maverick is bigger IRL than I think it is from photos. I saw one in person and it was much smaller than I expected. Not sure about your estimate tho.
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Zero One posted:I saw one in person and it was much smaller than I expected. It weighs only slightly more than a Toyota Camry so I think it’s pretty drat light by modern car standards given that it’s 200 inches long.
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Qmass posted:no you guys are right, tesla doesn't sell any cars off the back of their absurd 0-60s teslas are gimmick cars sold to nerds and people looking for a fashion accessory, yes nobody cares about the 0-60 time of their utility car as long as it's 'enough' and almost everything on the market these days is
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Wheeee posted:teslas are gimmick cars sold to nerds and people looking for a fashion accessory, yes Beeep booop beep bop all car buying decisions are 100% rational and emotion never enters into the choice. Furthermore this is the reason that 99% of people drive beige Toyota Corollas and the remaining 1% drive silver base-model F-150s.
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you think RAV4s and F-150s being incredible utility vehicles has nothing to do with them being top selling vehicles? nobody is a perfectly logical robot, but most normie people care about things like practicality, sitting high, looking cute/tough, and tech gimmicks more than lap times and poo poo
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All of these incidental factoids dont matter until they do. You might have a few non enthusiasts pick one over another over its acceleration while the ofher 10 dont care.
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Unironically my top criteria is no piano black plastic and an interior that doesn't squeak and rattle after a few years.
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Also 0-60 times are objective measures that are an easy thing to compare between models and that why publications include it.
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Sure but there are plenty of other objective measures which are more useful. 80-120km/h and 100-0km/h come to mind.
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dissss posted:Sure but there are plenty of other objective measures which are more useful. 80-120km/h and 100-0km/h come to mind. The 0-100 measurement is just so iconic and I have pretty good idea what kind of numbers are fast or normal. For decades I have read magazine reviews that include the 80-120 measurement, but if you ask me I have no idea what that number should, just can't remember any examples. That number is only useful for me in multiple car comparisons. The 100-0 measurement on the other hand has too little difference. Nowadays the cheapest crossover on the market, Dacia Sandero can stop in 39 meters, when it used to be that only something like Porsches could manage sub-40 meter distances. Today a 43 meters feels a bit bad braking performance.
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dissss posted:Sure but there are plenty of other objective measures which are more useful. 80-120km/h and 100-0km/h come to mind.
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heffray posted:At least in American car magazine tests, 50-70mph is useless half the time, because it's a "top gear" test with a manual, and autos kick down into 2nd or 3rd. A 2014 (automatic only) Chevrolet SS does 50-70 in 3.1 seconds, but a 2015 manual version needs 9.6 seconds because it's starting at 1500rpm in 6th. In finnish mags that test is usually done in three different gears and in several speed ranges, like 60-90, 90-120 and 60-120. It seems stupid to skim on these tests since they seem so quick to do, 10 seconds per acceleration, brake, do another run. Could be done in a minute per car.
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Here is a review: the car I bought is the best, the others I didn't aren't as good
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KakerMix posted:Here is a review: the car I bought is the best, the others I didn't aren't as good Don’t steal my posts 
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heffray posted:At least in American car magazine tests, 50-70mph is useless half the time, because it's a "top gear" test with a manual, and autos kick down into 2nd or 3rd. A 2014 (automatic only) Chevrolet SS does 50-70 in 3.1 seconds, but a 2015 manual version needs 9.6 seconds because it's starting at 1500rpm in 6th. Nobody makes manual cars in the US anymore so that seems like a problem that is solving itself.
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KakerMix posted:Here is a review: the car I bought is the best, the others I didn't aren't as good Same
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was able to reserve a 2022 GR86 and it is officially 3 weeks away from delivery
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big trivia FAIL posted:was able to reserve a 2022 GR86 and it is officially 3 weeks away from delivery Nice! Is the dealer doing anything crummy or right at msrp.
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dissss posted:Sure but there are plenty of other objective measures which are more useful. 80-120km/h and 100-0km/h come to mind. I like the 5-60 MPH test that Car and Driver in the U.S. started doing. It is much more indicative of real-world response than the typical magazine 0-60 launch, which involves launch control, and generally beating your car like it owes you money.
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Godzilla07 posted:I like the 5-60 MPH test that Car and Driver in the U.S. started doing. It is much more indicative of real-world response than the typical magazine 0-60 launch, which involves launch control, and generally beating your car like it owes you money. It also almost completely removes tires from the equation, which is a good thing since some manufacturers bend the rules a little that way as well.
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Russian Bear posted:Nice! Is the dealer doing anything crummy or right at msrp. 33 and change out the door tax included, so close enough
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Charles posted:Oil dilution problems I thought they fixed this?
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Kraftwerk posted:I thought they fixed this? Every single turbocharged direct injected engine will have this issue in areas that experience winter with temperatures below 0C. It's a function of cold start fuel enrichment and emissions regulations (trying to get the cat up to temperature as soon as possible). Both the 3.5EB and EA888 have oil that reek of fuel past 5000km intervals.
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The NA Civic is unbearably slow so if that’s the engine to get the solution is get something other than a civic.
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Thought I had decided against doing the stage 1 tune on my GTI for longevity, but pretty sure I'm gonna go ahead later into or soon as the warranty is up cause it does feel less special knowing how close it'd be rolling from a red light if another random box on wheels actually floored it. Don't feel too bad though cause I'd like to track it sometime too and surely it'll be hella better for that over random other cars. PS thanks for posting those fastest from the 80s vs slowest current C&D snippets that was good lol
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Elephanthead posted:You can’t get a non turbo hatch that’s why only the sedan or coupe That's changed with the new model and all North American civics being built in North America. Honda will now let you spec a hatch with the K20. But the turbo is the better motor. Charles posted:Oil dilution problems are an overblown concern.
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McTinkerson posted:Every single turbocharged direct injected engine will have this issue in areas that experience winter with temperatures below 0C. It's a function of cold start fuel enrichment and emissions regulations (trying to get the cat up to temperature as soon as possible). Can the oil dilution be corrected in the aftermarket with a less environmentally-friendly tune (arguably more environmentally friendly since it helps the engine/car last longer)?
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Could be wrong but I think you don’t get as much oil dilution if you’re driving a long enough distance for the fuel to vaporize out of the oil and it’s only a big issue if you have numerous cold starts without a fully warm up cycle. For example if you’re only driving a few km to the local store and back it’s probably worse than driving like 15km somewhere with a fully warmed up engine. Either way if oil dilution is that serious there’s always the V6 Camry or Camry Hybrid. You get port and direct injection and deal with none of these issues.
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Mercedes Benz once again leading the industry forward with bold new technology in the form of a plastic rear subframe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9SVAPPl0U
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Wheeee posted:Mercedes Benz once again leading the industry forward with bold new technology in the form of a plastic rear subframe But is it at least a biodegradable plastic that will crumble into dust months after the end of the warranty period?
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I can’t even see why it’s there since the half that is steel is clearly doing all the heavy lifting? Any ideas?
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Wheeee posted:Mercedes Benz once again leading the industry forward with bold new technology in the form of a plastic rear subframe As an aside, I'm super hyped for Sarah's youtube success. The project car videos she has are especially cool with the attention to detail.
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Russian Bear posted:As an aside, I'm super hyped for Sarah's youtube success. The project car videos she has are especially cool with the attention to detail. yea she's a wonderful change from most youtubers and has some cool projects with actual mechanical skills
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