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Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



It was a long time ago and I’ve never been much of a gamer in general but I got super into SWG. My Ithorian was on the way to becoming a Creature Tamer with a menagerie of cool battle pets. Then one day I logged on and everything was hosed up and they took away Creature Tamer as a profession. I still had a bunch of pets like a giant green praying mantis/spider thing that I could no longer command to do sweet attacks, it just stood there in my house like a decoration. Commando was my second choice because bombs and armor and stuff was fun but I lost interest along with pretty much everyone on that server.

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Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Just Chamber posted:

Yeah the Sarlaac is absolutely terrifying and the show treating it as just a slimy hole which Boba fell into that slightly inconvenienced him for a few minutes is a super missed opportunity. Like you said it should really have been an experience that fundamentally altered him, causing him to reflect on his life as he's struggling with delirium that lasts for at least weeks. I mean yes it's cliché writing but having him then emerge at the end would really feel like this is the birth of a changed person.

I wonder if they do this like Din’s backstory, and give us a little bit more during each episode? Hopefully that includes some references to the consciousness bit, and how it warps your mind.

Also, the “become part of its collective consciousness” is a bit I wasn’t aware of, so thanks for that :stonklol: It’s somehow even worse than those poor decraniated bastards Dr Evazan created for Crimson Dawn. At least then, your brain is dead and gone :gonk:

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019


I thought Boba Fett was gonna be an antihero type but I guess they're making him some noble dude who wants to change the crime world with respect or some poo poo? I guess going the other route is too smart for Star Wars or not in line with the mouse's brand.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

His time with the Tusken is obviously going to change him a bit.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

bros "respect" as a ruling theory is not somehow foreign to criminal organizations in fiction. Its a classic story structure in a lot of crime fiction to have clashing ideologies of "its about respect!!" and the "fear will keep them in line" or crazy bloodthirsty yahoos.

We're getting a story following the downfall of the latter as a "honorable" warrior type decides to try the former. It has been 1 episode and he already got his rear end beat and had his grift money stolen.

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

Always remember, the Sopranos video game was called The Road to Respect.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Just Chamber posted:

Yeah the Sarlaac is absolutely terrifying and the show treating it as just a slimy hole which Boba fell into that slightly inconvenienced him for a few minutes is a super missed opportunity. Like you said it should really have been an experience that fundamentally altered him, causing him to reflect on his life as he's struggling with delirium that lasts for at least weeks. I mean yes it's cliché writing but having him then emerge at the end would really feel like this is the birth of a changed person.

With the Sarlacc you either go big (AKA play up the full-on horrific nature of the situation) or you go home. This show decided to go home. And I'm kind of okay with that. The worst choice would have been to half-rear end. I figure they knew they couldn't do it justice so they decided not to try.

One thing I like so far is that this is the Senior Star Wars show. Morrison is 61. Ming-na and Beals are 57 (but somehow look 15-20 years younger). I think it's cool that we're hopefully getting a series with no cute widdle green babies or "Chosen One" kids. It'll be about this group of "old dogs" trying to learn new tricks.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Everyone posted:

With the Sarlacc you either go big (AKA play up the full-on horrific nature of the situation) or you go home. This show decided to go home. And I'm kind of okay with that. The worst choice would have been to half-rear end. I figure they knew they couldn't do it justice so they decided not to try.

One thing I like so far is that this is the Senior Star Wars show. Morrison is 61. Ming-na and Beals are 57 (but somehow look 15-20 years younger). I think it's cool that we're hopefully getting a series with no cute widdle green babies or "Chosen One" kids. It'll be about this group of "old dogs" trying to learn new tricks.


Much like Barbara Crampton I assume Ming-na Wen is a highlander or something


https://twitter.com/MingNa/status/1429908708046213120

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

MiddleOne posted:

It was ridiculous that the shield guys didn't just straight up execute them instead of waving with ineffectively with their stun batons.

Maybe they weren't trying to kill them?

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

yea reminder that it could be the mayor's goons, and the mayor would want someone to be in charge of Jabbas poo poo but also scared enough to bow. boba Fett is a noob and so he puts on a little show for him.

we will find out next episode if their captured guy talks

boo boo bear
Oct 1, 2009

I'm COMPLETELY OBSESSED with SEXY EGGS
fett has two pigmen and meng-na in his corner. nowhere near enough guns to rule through fear.

make your weakness seem like a plan.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



boo boo bear posted:

fett has two pigmen and meng-na in his corner. nowhere near enough guns to rule through fear.

make your weakness seem like a plan.

Also nowhere enough actual guns :v:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jan 2, 2022

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



He literally calls himself a crime lord and starts his extortion racket. He’s not some noble guy. He just wants to run things differently than Janna did.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
No, he's not shaking them down for protection money, it's tribute.

Totally different.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

TK-42-1 posted:

He literally calls himself a crime lord and starts his extortion racket. He’s not some noble guy. He just wants to run things differently than Janna did.

Exactly. Jabba was a sadistic gently caress. One reason Boba ended up in the Sarlacc was because Jabba was a sadistic gently caress. If Jabba had just said "Bring me Han Solo's ventilated but still recognizable corpse" Boba would likely be bounty hunting to this day. Instead Jabba first used the Rancor and then decided on the Sarlacc and poo poo went south from there.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The Gamorrean machetes looked like Klingon Mek'Leths

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Everyone posted:

Exactly. Jabba was a sadistic gently caress. One reason Boba ended up in the Sarlacc was because Jabba was a sadistic gently caress. If Jabba had just said "Bring me Han Solo's ventilated but still recognizable corpse" Boba would likely be bounty hunting to this day. Instead Jabba first used the Rancor and then decided on the Sarlacc and poo poo went south from there.

The only reason Jabba did that was because of the week Lucas spent at the Neverland Ranch one time, watching Michael Jackson feed kids to the zebras.

hosed him up I tell you.

Vitruvian Manic
Dec 5, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Jerkface posted:

yea reminder that it could be the mayor's goons, and the mayor would want someone to be in charge of Jabbas poo poo but also scared enough to bow. boba Fett is a noob and so he puts on a little show for him.

we will find out next episode if their captured guy talks

Yeah, as someone who has never read a book or seen a movie, I agree that the random assailants *could* be the mayor's goons.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
The list of people who have paid Boba tribute and the list of people who'd want to kill Boba are basically the same

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

I'd be tempted to say that Jabba is the most evil dude in Star Wars, the emperor blew up planets and poo poo but he didn't condemn anyone to a thousand years of torment.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


DurosKlav posted:

His time with the Tusken is obviously going to change him a bit.

Boba Fett becomes an uomo d'onore in a Sand People community and decides to bring that business model to his new enterprise.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Megillah Gorilla posted:

No, he's not shaking them down for protection money, it's tribute.

Totally different.

Legit protection, not a racket. Those ninjas were looking for some asses to whoop.

The payment was out of gratitude that Fett was about to wander outside and get savagely beaten so they could hang out in the casino in peace.

Though he should have taken the offer of a space mani-pedi for the Gamorreans, considering they were the MVPs.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

chitoryu12 posted:

Maybe they weren't trying to kill them?

The episode credits call them "Night Wind Assassins", which seems like an odd choice to hire if you don't want someone to die.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
I always hated how nerds - and then I guess the encyclopaedia later - took every bit of dialogue so literally. When Jabba’s giving the 1000 years digestion speech, it came over to me as just some cold-blooded gangster poo poo to say to a motherfucker before he dropped his rear end down there. Like sure, maybe the Sarlacc has a slow digestion system and you are gonna suffer miserably in there slowly dissolving but come on, a week tops and you’re done.

But no, every Bothan’s gotta be a spy, and the Sarlacc has some kind of psychic poo poo going on to make you feel it for centuries.

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

Robot Style posted:

The episode credits call them "Night Wind Assassins", which seems like an odd choice to hire if you don't want someone to die.

They were the only ones to add a discount for the not-killing-only-maiming package.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Sentinel Red posted:

But no, every Bothan’s gotta be a spy, and the Sarlacc has some kind of psychic poo poo going on to make you feel it for centuries.

Every person in the Mos Eisley cantina was a super important badass.

Even the loving space slug in Empire Strikes Back had a name and was apparently intelligent. It even deliberately maintained an atmosphere inside its body but was looked down on by other members of its species for only being a host to mynocks.

Dave Syndrome
Jan 11, 2007
Look, Bernard. Bernard, look. Look. Bernard. Bernard. Look. Bernard. Bernard. Bernard! Bernard. Bernard. Look, Bernard! Bernard. Bernard! Bernard! Look! Bernard! Bernard. Bernard! Bernard, look! Look! Look, Bernard! Bernard! Bernard, look! Look! Bern

Sentinel Red posted:

But no, every Bothan’s gotta be a spy

That's why I was so disappointed when we first saw other Hutts besides Jabba in the EU. I would have loved it if he were an aberration, and the rest of them had looked slimmer and more streamlined, more like slugs or snakes. Let them have a civilized culture that is embarrassed about his dealings. Making them all obese gangsters is not only lazy writing, it also cheapens the original character if he's nothing special.
(And yes, I know that we've had honorable and even muscular Hutts in some corners of the EU, but the go-to still is the fat criminal type.)

They did a little better with this trope when they portrayed the Toydarians in The Clone Wars - they were more of a warrior culture, and less of a Jewish stereotype. I think so far Watto is the only scrap merchant among his species we've seen.

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

Sentinel Red posted:

I always hated how nerds - and then I guess the encyclopaedia later - took every bit of dialogue so literally. When Jabba’s giving the 1000 years digestion speech, it came over to me as just some cold-blooded gangster poo poo to say to a motherfucker before he dropped his rear end down there. Like sure, maybe the Sarlacc has a slow digestion system and you are gonna suffer miserably in there slowly dissolving but come on, a week tops and you’re done.

But no, every Bothan’s gotta be a spy, and the Sarlacc has some kind of psychic poo poo going on to make you feel it for centuries.

It's scarier and better and more fun if it's a 1000 years. Maybe that's not gritty or realistic or whatever, but it is a pulp adventure series so who cares.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



It’s pulp! It’s pulp! It’s supposed to be stupid and bad on purpose. I swear!

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Karloff posted:

I also love the sarlaac. I loved the short story about Boba's escape which went into the consciousness stuff, and I always thought it was such a terrifying concept. Which is why I was so dissapointed that this episode made what should be the most horrific of ordeals feel no more than a minor inconvenience. I would have been very satisfied with a whole episode of Boba down there where he is put to the limit of his sanity, that way when he breaks out it would feel meaningful, like one Boba went into the pit, and another Boba clawed his way out. It could also account for his softer outlook. But, it just felt like they were desperate to get it out of the way. Maybe it would have been too dark and horror toned for a Star Wars episode but imagine images of Boba caught down there surrounded by the other victims, some fresh off the barge, others having been down there longer, all wailing in pain and terror as they realise their agony will last a 1000 years. Devoid of hope. Like being in hell. Scary stuff.

Sarlacc Pit Bottle Episode

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

Vintersorg posted:

It’s pulp! It’s pulp! It’s supposed to be stupid and bad on purpose. I swear!

Nope. That's not what people mean when they say pulp.

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



The sarlacc artificially prolonging the life of creatures already in its stomach so it can continue to feed on them makes about as much sense as charging a battery with a bunch of smaller rechargeable batteries.

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

The point is this is already a series that contains magic wizards, bizarre creatures, space stations that can blow up planets, wacky asides and more. So the existence of a monster that digests its victims over a millennia is, I feel, not some titanic leap of fantasy that the setting and tone of the series cannot sustain. Now, one can interpret C3POs words about the Sarlaac in any manner that they wish, and of course choose to assume that Jabba has exaggerated the terror of being cast into it. But considering the rest of the fantasy in the series; that Jabba himself is a giant slug and that he has a pet monster in his basement as well as an Elephant that plays the piano, I don't think it's a giant leap to take his claims about the Sarlaac at face value either. Does it make scientific, physical sense....? No, probably not. But that doesn't matter for this series, because many of the things in Star Wars don't, and the series is more concerned thematically about morality and the conflict between good and evil (both internally of the soul and externally between different political factions) than being a scientifically accurate depiction of alien worlds. To that end it plays more with metaphor. It could be said, that the Sarlaac being horrifying is representative of Jabba himself - a figure who, as a crime lord, feeds off the misery of others.

Karloff fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jan 3, 2022

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Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

Ralph Hurley posted:

The sarlacc artificially prolonging the life of creatures already in its stomach so it can continue to feed on them makes about as much sense as charging a battery with a bunch of smaller rechargeable batteries.

It’s the zombie apocalypse and the only food you have left is twinkies. Imagine one Twinkie a day will fill you up. You’re not going to just throw away the surplus twinkies because you can’t eat them.

Same concept with the sarlacc. It only needs a minor amount of nutrition and probably doesn’t know when the next meal is gonna be so why not keep them around for as long as it can? I do think the adding of consciousness is a little out there but hey, space cowboy/samurai show.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Neo Rasa posted:

Much like Barbara Crampton I assume Ming-na Wen is a highlander or something


https://twitter.com/MingNa/status/1429908708046213120

yes

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

Don’t mean to double post but these are beautiful. :swoon:

Thank you.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Ralph Hurley posted:

The sarlacc artificially prolonging the life of creatures already in its stomach so it can continue to feed on them makes about as much sense as charging a battery with a bunch of smaller rechargeable batteries.

It's theoretically not all that out there. Some pitcher plants do something like this via enticing other animals with nectar and then, depending on the species, trapping the prey into its stomach for digestion or becoming a literal toilet for the animal it lured. The sarlacc is basically a combination of both which is actually redundant unless there's some complex product that organisms make that the sarlacc can't. Except it's so big and complex already, it would be unlikely.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Maybe the sarlaac is just a big piece of poo poo who enjoys doing it, who cares

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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

A big hole of poo poo.

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