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Jack Trades posted:Steam offers so much to the developments in terms of features and ready-made infrastructure that EGS' lower cut is still only worth it for the biggest publishers. Well EOS is gaining traction, there's a steadily increasing number of Steam releases which use it instead of Steamworks Devs probably like it because it's store-agnostic so they can have one backend that works across Steam/EGS/GOG/Itch/whatever
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Foul Fowl posted:not only is it a game . . . it's the game YOU ARE A FLESH AUTOMATON ANIMATED BY NEUROTRANSMITTERS
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Jan 5, 2022 15:06
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GreatGreen posted:Well, they're doing half that. EGS has fortnite and fortnite is for literal babies and they don't seem to have a problem navigating the storefront 
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Jan 5, 2022 15:17
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I can't find any hard data from Epic themselves but I wouldn't be shocked if most of the people playing Fortnite were not doing so through EGS, but rather consoles.
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Jan 5, 2022 15:20
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explosivo posted:EGS has fortnite and fortnite is for literal babies and they don't seem to have a problem navigating the storefront It's fine when you have a couple of games, but it could really use some better filtering options for anyone with a bigger library. Also, you can't back up/restore games as easily as on Steam. The official instructions are hacky, and don't work for a lot of people (didn't for me). With Steam you just point it towards your old directory and everything just works.
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Jan 5, 2022 15:21
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Protocol7 posted:I can't find any hard data from Epic themselves but I wouldn't be shocked if most of the people playing Fortnite were not doing so through EGS, but rather consoles. There's relative revenue numbers from the Apple lawsuit, if you assume that console and PC players are roughly as likely to spend money then it works as an approximation of relative player count PS4: 46.8% Xbox One: 27.5% Android, Switch, PC: 18.7% iOS: 7% So yeah most Fortnite players are probably on PS or Xbox
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Rinkles posted:It's fine when you have a couple of games, but it could really use some better filtering options for anyone with a bigger library. Totally, there's a lot that it can improve on. It's hilarious that it took them this long to add a shopping cart since that kinda became the meme so I don't have much hope that it'll get any better anytime soon. I'll buy on steam primarily always because I want everything in the same library but some of the EGS deals are too good to pass up and the launcher/library is fine these days so whatever. But hey Hitman 3 is coming to steam soon anyway so everybody can be happy 
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Jan 5, 2022 15:26
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It's just confusing how they're taking so long to flesh out the client, when Unreal Engine is so much more complex and rolls out new features constantly They have the engineering talent and organization to speedrun their way to a nice client if Unreal is any indication, but it's just not being prioritized for some reason
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Jan 5, 2022 15:36
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GreatGreen posted:By the way, for anybody interested in this kind of thing, I just picked up Horizon Zero Dawn and after the intro, I was presented with a EULA from Sony about data collection. I could either allow them to collect "limited data" or "limited and extended data." Wait, whaaat? gently caress all this whining about Epic, I want to know more about this.
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Jan 5, 2022 15:43
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repiv posted:It's just confusing how they're taking so long to flesh out the client, when Unreal Engine is so much more complex and rolls out new features constantly I think they have it on the backburner because they know that having a good store doesn't really matter for their current business model. The vast majority of their playerbase is there to play specific games that they can only get on Epic and they aren't really going to interact with the client much outside of buying and playing those particular games.
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FYI: The Outer Wilds' expansion: Echoes of the Eye, is extraordinarily good, like the base game. If you like games in the vein of Myst, Riven, The Witness etc, go for it.
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MMF Freeway posted:I think they have it on the backburner because they know that having a good store doesn't really matter for their current business model. The vast majority of their playerbase is there to play specific games that they can only get on Epic and they aren't really going to interact with the client much outside of buying and playing those particular games. That's unlikely given their still constant free games to fast grow their userbase and vast amount of games getting added (and by now also quite a few so-so games). They want to become an actual competitor.
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It’s pretty obvious Epic is making GBS threads money for exclusives to try to maintain relevance. From what I’ve seen their “break-even point” (when they expect EGS to finally turn a profit) has slipped from like 2024 to 2027. I’m not particularly upset about them or anything, but it’s no secret Sweeney is a moron (Nineteen-Eighty Fortnite? Really?) and watching them slowly crash and burn does give me schadenfreude.
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Well yeah is obvious the buy hype poo poo to sell isn’t actually an effective tactic which is honestly surprising
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Sloppy posted:Wait, whaaat? gently caress all this whining about Epic, I want to know more about this. Being charitable, it might be boilerplate for anti-cheat measures? I know HZ:D is single player but these EULAs are usually drafted once for every game in a publishers catalogue Years ago VAC was found to be scraping the system DNS cache to check whether the user has visited certain domains used for cheat DRM, I assume other ACs do similar things
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Jan 5, 2022 16:14
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McKracken posted:Finishing up D:OS 2 with a friend and before the sale ends I'd like to grab our next game - any recommendations? Monster Hunter Wasteland 3 Terraria kindaaaa?
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Protocol7 posted:Cruelty Squad sure is a game. Interesting enough to keep me hooked, for sure. It just gets better too. It goes from disgust to interest to wow I love this game. It’s awkward because people ask what games you’re playing and it puts you in an awkward spot of either lying, or explaining how this sub PS1 graphics piece of poo poo $0.99 steam bin looking game, with bright green ugly rear end textures and awkward controls, is actually the best game you’ve played in recent memory.
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Jan 5, 2022 16:25
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Cruelty Squad is fascinating because it's not just ugly, it's purposefully made to break every possible rules of art.
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It's just amazing how you boot it up and just go "what the gently caress," and then once the initial confusion from the general weirdness of the game rubs off, you realize that the actual game part of it is really good too? And I know there's a bunch of poo poo I haven't even explored yet in these first few levels. So it seems like you're incentivized to go back to earlier levels once you unlock the cool poo poo and explore in more depth. Always love poo poo like that.
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fit em all up in there posted:Has anyone tried out Library of ruina? I didn't like the game mechanics, card based game with a lot of RNG elements. Doesn't respect your time at all, there's gacha/stingy booster pack mechanics in how you obtain cards (even though it's a single player game). It's anime as all hell as well. Cool art direction though.
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vaginite posted:It just gets better too. It goes from disgust to interest to wow I love this game. i don't find that dilemma awkward at all
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did anyone else buy cruelty squad, go "wtf", refund it, then inexplicably get drawn to buy it again and play the whole thing
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Civvie 11 described Cruelty Squad as "an extremely elaborate shitpost", but I have the feeling it's more than that.
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repiv posted:did anyone else buy cruelty squad, go "wtf", refund it, then inexplicably get drawn to buy it again and play the whole thing yeah almost to a t, i refunded it and an itch developed, an itch that only gorbino's quest for life related games could scratch
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repiv posted:Being charitable, it might be boilerplate for anti-cheat measures? I know HZ:D is single player but these EULAs are usually drafted once for every game in a publishers catalogue "It's probably okay" isn't a great answer. If a game does something invasive, or anti-consumer, or the studio are bad actors, I say "hell no, I'm going to pirate it." And then I say "wait, where do I pirate games again?" and I don't play it.
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Cowcaster posted:i don't find that dilemma awkward at all I’ve had good friends think I was loving with them though. Like I was doing a bit to get them to spend $15 on a poo poo game. Jack Trades posted:Cruelty Squad is fascinating because it's not just ugly, it's purposefully made to break every possible rules of art. It’s pretty consistent too, like you can tell the guy who made it wasn’t just throwing random poo poo at the wall it actually fit. I ended up loving the visual style of it by the end of it, especially with how awful the world it’s in is - the art style fit the world perfectly. I’m bummed I beat it, its one of those experiences you wish you could do over again 
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Cruelty Squad is my GOTY 2021, no joke. Inscryption is pretty high up there, too. Supraland has also turned out to be a fantastic 3D Metroidvania. I wish Steam had a better method of tracking what games were finished, what games weren't, etc. I know there are external solutions, but something rudimentary within the client would also be neat.
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Blattdorf posted:Cruelty Squad is my GOTY 2021, no joke. Inscryption is pretty high up there, too. Supraland has also turned out to be a fantastic 3D Metroidvania. You could make a category.
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there's no internal marker for finished games because that is completely subjective.
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yeah it's got tons of unforgettable levels and moments, the ocean liner, idiot party, apartment atrocity, office, basically all the secret and final levels . . . non stop hits
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Mescal posted:"It's probably okay" isn't a great answer. If a game does something invasive, or anti-consumer, or the studio are bad actors, I say "hell no, I'm going to pirate it." And then I say "wait, where do I pirate games again?" and I don't play it. Yeah Sony should certainly clarify why that language is in the agreement, or if I'm correct that it's there for MP games with anti-cheat then just remove it from the SP titles agreements
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Can anyone point to me exactly where in the EULA of HZD it says they collect what websites you visit? Or better, some proof that the game actually does exactly that? It all seems just like a game of telephone where everyone reports that someone else said they do it.
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Cruelty Squad made me laugh a lot too. Greatest hits are the CSIJ Level V Biosuit having the description 40% armor with no downsides, then starting a level with it. And the secret level where you have to de-gentrify an industrialized zone and the handler says normally we don’t help poor people but “money, like love, is blind and based on transactions” Anyway I’ll strop stroking this game I’m procrastinating some poo poo at work right now.
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ymgve posted:Can anyone point to me exactly where in the EULA of HZD it says they collect what websites you visit? Or better, some proof that the game actually does exactly that? It all seems just like a game of telephone where everyone reports that someone else said they do it. same actually, just remembered something similar happened with days gone (another sony title) where it was reported that the game logged keystrokes and it turned out the source was "some random guy said so in a steam review" and the actual EULA didn't mention anything to do with keystrokes https://in.ign.com/days-gone/159155/news/days-gone-pc-data-collection-policy-is-a-privacy-nightmare https://imgur.com/a/ugJtn1t
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McKracken posted:Finishing up D:OS 2 with a friend and before the sale ends I'd like to grab our next game - any recommendations? Helldivers If you like puzzles: We were here series Tick Tock a tale for two. Voice chat would be required for this, you don't join a game but choose which path you will play. Each path will have information for each other to complete the puzzles. It''s pretty short, took me about 4 hours to complete Operation Tango, only one of you needs to own the game, the other can download the friends pass and play with you for free Sonel fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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repiv posted:It's just confusing how they're taking so long to flesh out the client, when Unreal Engine is so much more complex and rolls out new features constantly It's because the EGS is a quick cash in to try and eat a chunk of marketshare with lossleaders and exclusives, rather than a product intended for longterm use and stability.
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Sloppy posted:Wait, whaaat? gently caress all this whining about Epic, I want to know more about this. ymgve posted:Can anyone point to me exactly where in the EULA of HZD it says they collect what websites you visit? Or better, some proof that the game actually does exactly that? It all seems just like a game of telephone where everyone reports that someone else said they do it. I should have taken a screenshot of it, but I installed the game last night and read that phrasing "including recently accessed website data" or something along those lines in Sony's description of the scope of the "limited data collection" option, which itself was the less invasive of the two available options. I'm not buying the game again, but anybody is free to buy it and install it, screenshot that section and post it here, then turn the game off, uninstall, and request a refund. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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ymgve posted:Can anyone point to me exactly where in the EULA of HZD it says they collect what websites you visit? Or better, some proof that the game actually does exactly that? It all seems just like a game of telephone where everyone reports that someone else said they do it. According to the Privacy Policy from the Steam page: quote:Information That We Collect or Receive
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Ragequit posted:According to the Privacy Policy from the Steam page: That is much less aggressive language than what was in the actual game data collection notification. In game, there is absolutely zero mention of specific websites only pertaining to Sony. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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