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So it's just some quack bullshit? Tbh I still don't get what that anecdote says about djokovic.
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It implies that the medical exemption letter is probably "
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Jan 6, 2022 10:13
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The Perfect Element posted:So it's just some quack bullshit? Duck fat.
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Jan 6, 2022 10:22
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https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1478849511434997764
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Wayfaring Stranger posted:High five commercial arch buddy! Seconding all that. The time frames for mitigations are agreed with the client, and based on expected encounters with archaeology. Through geophysics (what I do) and/or trial trenching, the teams get a sense of what's there before the topsoil gets stripped off. That's the difference between a 3 month job and a year-long one. The only time we run in while other non-arch crews are working is what's called a watching brief, and that has to do with the installation of pipelines/cables, where subsurface intervention has a smaller footprint. Didn't realise there was an arche contingent here! I work in Australia so slightly different context but yeah typically we work under development time pressure but the time team '3 days to get things done' isn't really a thing. We do a fair amount of watching brief work for histarch and lots of survey and test excavation for indigenous arch. Almost never use geophysics which is a shame as I enjoy geophys work!
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Jan 6, 2022 10:28
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Let him do it but he has to A) Use only the same amount of people and equipment the other four lads used B) Also has to dump it in the nearest body of water. Let's see him drag granite Karl to the Thames.
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Jan 6, 2022 10:30
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I like how "wrote some books about his thoughts on society and otherwise was a good lad by all accounts" and "directly and indirectly caused inhumane suffering for hundreds of slaves for his own profit" are apparently equivalent.
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Jan 6, 2022 10:34
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Pierson posted:Let him do it but he has to
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Jan 6, 2022 10:35
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Guavanaut posted:Let's see him find three friends. Four friends. There's no way he'll put himself at risk doing it. Better to 'just ask questions' and 'oh my, I cannot believe someone did this!' after.
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Jan 6, 2022 10:40
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Private Speech posted:I like how "wrote some books about his thoughts on society and otherwise was a good lad by all accounts" and "directly and indirectly caused inhumane suffering for hundreds of slaves for his own profit" are apparently equivalent. Now now, let’s not ruin Colston’s legacy. During his tenure the company procured over 84,000 slaves. Hundreds was a standard Tuesday.
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Jan 6, 2022 10:51
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Guavanaut posted:It implies that the medical exemption letter is probably " Oh absolutely. And Djokovic seems bull headed enough to go to court with evidence as flimsy as that and still think he'd win because that's just what he would do. It's also possible that the medical exemption he is talking about is the fact the he had Covid within six months. Now this is something that he hadn't previously disclosed but he had apparently got Covid and recovered (though I can't find the date of his previous confirmed case.) Now honestly if it were me and I got Covid once, I think that would make me want to get a vaccine. But look Djokovic is a professional athlete. It's not like he relies on his body being in top physical condition.
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Jan 6, 2022 10:57
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Pierson posted:Let him do it but he has to I re-opened the thread to this and thought it was about Djokovic 
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Jan 6, 2022 10:58
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The Question IRL posted:But look Djokovic is a professional athlete. It's not like he relies on his body being in top physical condition. Have you considered the fact that jocks are dumb?
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Jan 6, 2022 11:00
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The Perfect Element posted:I feel we're, at most, a week away from people being told they should still go to work if they test positive. It feels like society might genuinely collapse otherwise. The problem here is that Omicron, while milder than previous variants, can still severely impair your ability to work. I'm not convinced that having a lot of incredibly sick people being told to go to the office is going to mitigate social collapse - instead, it'll probably accelerate it. Remember that a primary function of lockdowns and furlough schemes was to preserve the economy when economic activity became too difficult, dangerous, and unpopular.
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Jan 6, 2022 11:12
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The funny part is that yes, you can pull down the statues if you want, it doesn't change his accomplishments, if there were no statues of the guy he still wouldn't be forgotten because his work is foundational to so many people across the world. If you need a statue to be remembered, you probably shouldn't be.
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Jan 6, 2022 11:13
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A bit of schadenfreude from across the pond: https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1478834609236238338 I'm looking forward to watching a Tory minister or few do the same over the next few weeks.
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Jan 6, 2022 11:24
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OwlFancier posted:The funny part is that yes, you can pull down the statues if you want, it doesn't change his accomplishments, if there were no statues of the guy he still wouldn't be forgotten because his work is foundational to so many people across the world. Yeah, this is just Buster Bluth trying to throw the hand vacuum at the bus.
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Jan 6, 2022 11:25
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The Question IRL posted:Now honestly if it were me and I got Covid once, I think that would make me want to get a vaccine. But look Djokovic is a professional athlete. It's not like he relies on his body being in top physical condition.
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Jan 6, 2022 11:27
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being a slave trader and writing a book are literally the same thing
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Jan 6, 2022 11:41
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Paperhouse posted:being a slave trader and writing a book are literally the same thing A statue in a public square and a consecrated grave are also the same thing
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Jan 6, 2022 11:42
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The Perfect Element posted:So it's just some quack bullshit? But the tonsils are very happy
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Jan 6, 2022 11:51
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keep punching joe posted:Have you considered the fact that jocks are dumb? No, a lot of jocks are just really focused on doing one or two things and know when to trust someone else to advice them at areas they aren't good at. They particularly work well when there are teams of them playing together and they support each other by putting aside personal beliefs for the greater good to accomplish great things. Meanwhile Novak is doing his Liberterian, cod-medical focus on what he wants to do and ignoring societies overall rules. It's all about the individual over the group. In short Djokovic is dumb, Jocks aren't dumb.
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Jan 6, 2022 12:03
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There does seem to be a theme of some types of athletes avoiding getting vaccinated, but I don't know if that's any different to any other group of young highly paid and high status men. Footballers do seem to be less likely to fall into the libertarian trap than other young male high earners, perhaps that's the team spirit, or perhaps that's because we only hear about the ones raising money for feeding kids.
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Jan 6, 2022 12:08
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Guavanaut posted:There does seem to be a theme of some types of athletes avoiding getting vaccinated, but I don't know if that's any different to any other group of young highly paid and high status men. Premiership footballers are less than 50% vaccinated - and are definitely selfish and dumb as poo poo, on average. (Interestingly Italian players are almost 100% vaccinated but then the Italian government has been much more robust in pushing the vaccines and is apparently about to actually go into full "Yeah you don't leave the house if you're not vaccinated" mode)
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Jan 6, 2022 12:12
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I had heard that the problem with the NHS wasn't literal beds and buildings, it was staff. Which is why the giant Nightingale they made out of the Excel Centre in London is back to doing conventions again - there were no staff to run it as a hospital, and the government has no interest in training or attracting more.
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Jan 6, 2022 12:21
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Premiership footballers are less than 50% vaccinated - and are definitely selfish and dumb as poo poo, on average. Italy's covid rules also led to this story. Italian man tries to dodge Covid vaccine with fake arm https://jrnl.ie/5619489 Like part of me is amazed at how people are willing to go to such lengths over just getting a vaccine. Like I know your brain is broken but surely it's easier (and cheaper) to get the vaccine for real as opposed to trying to commit fraud. Them again I felt a similar way when people earlier in the thread were talking about getting Plexes, VPN's and sharing systems to download movies and TV's as opposed to just getting a subscription to Netflix.
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Jan 6, 2022 12:23
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Gort posted:I had heard that the problem with the NHS wasn't literal beds and buildings, it was staff. Which is why the giant Nightingale they made out of the Excel Centre in London is back to doing conventions again - there were no staff to run it as a hospital, and the government has no interest in training or attracting more. They were never meant to be hospitals for treatment anyway. They were just places to send sick people to die after COVID-19 was allowed to rip through the population. Tory donors making profit from a death toll that would have exceeded that of the entire Second World War in a single year was just a coincidence, I'm sure.
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Jan 6, 2022 12:26
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The Question IRL posted:Them again I felt a similar way when people earlier in the thread were talking about getting Plexes, VPN's and sharing systems to download movies and TV's as opposed to just getting a subscription to Netflix. Just getting vaccinated is much easier than doing a J Walter Weatherman impression, but I think the point was that Netflix et al made accessing TV shows easier, and now it's becoming harder again as stuff fragments. And there are still hangovers from the old days of who has the rights to stuff, especially internationally. I have Netflix and Disney+ at the moment, but if I google "here money, how I watch show X?", sometimes the answer is either "you can't" or "you need to change your internet provider because they have the rights". Sadly I can't see a Spotify/Apple Music/etc situation where everyone has everything anytime soon.
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Gort posted:I had heard that the problem with the NHS wasn't literal beds and buildings, it was staff. Which is why the giant Nightingale they made out of the Excel Centre in London is back to doing conventions again - there were no staff to run it as a hospital, and the government has no interest in training or attracting more. The 'problem' was that any patient moved to one o the Nightingale hospitals had to be accompanied by a nurse from the hospital they were being transferred from. Given that on a typical ward, one nurse can be in charge of 7-8 patients (I think it's supposed to be less, but, eh, staffing shortages), you can see why very few patients ended up being transferred to the Nightingales.
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Good news everyone! Starmer has blocked the Conservatives every exit - they are now stuck in Government! https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/06/starmer-lawyer-johnson-labour-leader-conservatives-prime-minister
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Jan 6, 2022 12:39
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The Question IRL posted:Italy's covid rules also led to this story. Netflix costs money, and to have decent access to most things needs at least two extra services as well. Plex costs nothing.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Premiership footballers are less than 50% vaccinated - and are definitely selfish and dumb as poo poo, on average. FWIW this isn't true - 92% of players and staff have had at least 1 vaccine, and 84% are on "the vaccination journey" (whatever that means). There's a few clubs that have publicly said are fully vaccinated (Liverpool being one of them, who are currently having a mass covid outbreak sigh).
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Jan 6, 2022 12:49
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Must be lung cancer.
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I do think it's worth bearing in mind that there are sometimes perfectly legitimate reasons for instinctive vaccine hesitancy, particularly amongst certain demographics. I very much doubt there's anything particularly nefarious happening with the covid shots beyond neoliberalism.txt, but I would be wary of writing off those anxieties as purely the product of stupidity or selfishness. (though they obviously are also factors)
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Jan 6, 2022 13:04
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Tesseraction posted:Must be lung cancer. When this happened to a bunch of denialists in the States they all claimed to have been dosed with anthrax, looking forward to see what our plucky homegrown fuckwits come up with.
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Yeah there's valid reasons for vaccine hesitancy. There's no valid reason for mask hesitancy. If you cannot wear a mask and you don't want a vaccine, then it's incumbent on you to not go partying in Whitby with three idiots.
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For professional athletes just the mild side effects of vaccination could prevent effective training for a couple of days, maybe ruining the entire week's program. Catching COVID-19 while unvaccinated just could gently caress up your performance for weeks, years, or even permanently. But who'd thought young uneducated men would take stupid unnecessary risks??
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I don't think there are legitimate reasons for not getting vaccinated when billions of other people have and are fine, actually.
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