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I liked ARR. I replayed it recently and it’s pretty good, but pretty tedious. I give it a 7.6/10. I’d give Shadowbringers a 9.8/10. I could never in good conscience say FF14 is a 7.6/10 video game. If y’all are trying to rate FF14 or recommend the game, then playing Disc 1 of 5 of a JRPG and announcing its overall a bad is a bit disingenuous. Don’t play it if you don’t want to though, nobody really cares if you play it or don’t. It’s 5 full-length JRPGs stapled onto one another. If you don’t like the first one you very likely won’t like the other ones, so just exit gracefully instead of saying FF14 is overall a bad video game because you didn’t like the worst part of it. And if you don’t like JRPGs you almost certainly won’t like FF14. It’s also an MMO which means, frankly, it’s not going to be particularly broadly appealing because MMOs select for a relatively specific audience. Don’t play games you don’t like, play games everyone enjoys like Chromehounds when the servers were online.
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KonvexKonkav posted:The thing is that FF14 apologists often like to sell the game as being more like a classical JRPG with a multiplayer component. I like JRPGs and dumb anime schlock so in theory, I should be the target audience for FF14. But lol at spending 40 hours grinding fetch quests to get to the good part when there are plenty of JRPGs that start strong or least don't take forever to get going. Playing through FFV again now and all of its 30ish hour playtime is the good part so I don't know what XIV's excuse is Also the fetch quests in FFXIV don't stop even during the part where it "gets good". I'm not complaining that there are fetch quests that are dressed up in more heroic terms of "only you are strong enough to kill the wyverns terrorizing the town, bring me a half dozen of their wings as proof of your deed", I get that that kind of stuff is a staple of the genre. What I mean is you keep getting like, level 1 "hey you, I'm too lazy to run across town to give this poo poo to my equally lazy buddies, here you go" quests long after the point where you've become the savior of the multiverse or whatever the gently caress
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Jan 7, 2022 20:17
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jokes posted:Don’t play games you don’t like, play games everyone enjoys like Chromehounds when the servers were online. There’s a kind of unique form of sadness that comes from playing an old game/console and running across a feature that no longer functions. Servers for multiplayer are the most common examples but far from the only ones. You don’t even to actually have wanted to use the feature or the feature to have been any good. But it still makes you feel this twinge of emptiness.
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jokes posted:I liked ARR. I replayed it recently and it’s pretty good, but pretty tedious. I give it a 7.6/10. I’d give Shadowbringers a 9.8/10. I could never in good conscience say FF14 is a 7.6/10 video game. If y’all are trying to rate FF14 or recommend the game, then playing Disc 1 of 5 of a JRPG and announcing its overall a bad is a bit disingenuous. Don’t play it if you don’t want to though, nobody really cares if you play it or don’t. I played 10 minutes of ff14 in good faith and it was really boring compared to the good games i like sorry
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Jan 7, 2022 20:21
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FFV was a super bland game imo, EXCEPT for the job system which was cool and addictive. Wish it had been put over a much better game underneath.... oh wait it was. 
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Grape posted:FFV was a super bland game imo, EXCEPT for the job system which was cool and addictive. Broke: FFV has bland characters and a bad story Woke: all FFs have bland characters and bad stories so might as well play the one with good gameplay 
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Jan 7, 2022 20:23
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Final Fantasy's move to an action RPG style was a mistake, and the series has only gotten worse over the last two decades.
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All this arguing about FF14 and not ONE person has explained to me how many movie tickets worth of value it contains????
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jokes posted:Does effusive praise not count the same as low-effort shitposting focusing on the first, and worst, part of a five-part game? For me I see it the other way around. The first few levels should sell me on the game, upgrades and gear are coming thick and fast, skill points and talents being earned quickly - the dopamine hits are flowing and the new world you're in should be enticing. Then poo poo slows down, and it becomes shite The final fantasy online game did nooothing for me at all, it just kind of sucked and I can't even say why
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Grape posted:FFV was a super bland game imo, EXCEPT for the job system which was cool and addictive. And that better game was Final Fantasy 3. Either of them.
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pretty soft girl posted:Broke: FFV has bland characters and a bad story Blander then the average FF (yikes!), and that extends to setting and atmosphere and graphics. Like I know earlier SNES games can look like extra colorful NES games sometimes but it's a visual snore on top of all else. FFVI has lots of extremely cornball two dimensional anime crap in it, but it's also way way way more interesting to play through and soak in. I'm having a hard time remembering any of V's music too, I recall it being pretty good but nothing stuck. Compared to others from the 90's that's below par too. And of course there is no reason to suffer FFV for the job system when Tactics exists. Grape fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Jan 7, 2022 |
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fishing with the fam posted:Final Fantasy's move to an action RPG style was a mistake, and the series has only gotten worse over the last two decades. yup edit: everything feels like crisis core
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Meme Poker Party posted:All this arguing about FF14 and not ONE person has explained to me how many movie tickets worth of value it contains???? it has a montly sub so to get maximum value for money make sure to play 12 hours a day and skip all cutscenes and sidecontent so you can reach max l;evel in ur first month and not pay an extra $12
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FFV at least motivated me to play through the whole thing though, *stretches arms* because boy I gave out on FFVII! That poo poo has dated badddddd.
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I wouldn't poo poo on FF14 if people hadn't said it worked outside the confines of MMORPGs. I don't go around making GBS threads on WoW or Everquest, they're just not for me and I accept that. To put up with the 60 hours of tedium I went through, the later parts would have to be absolutely mind blowing. At that point I had started skipping so much dialog I realized I had no idea who anyone was or what was going on, so if someone was pulling a big double cross or there was some intrigue it was going to be completely lost on me. I know skipping all the dialog makes me sound like a lazy shitposter, but there is just so much dialog for every inconsequential thing that happens in FF14. I'd say for the first 10 hours we gave a good honest go of reading the dialog, then maybe the next 30 hours we tried to read at least the most important dialog. "Brevity is the soul of wit" got thrown around a lot by my group as we mashed through the endless stream of dialog boxes that accompanied yet another inconsequential non-team based fetch quest. But if you like MMORPGs and can make a cat/dragon boy/girl hot enough to power you through the first 80 hours then there might be a magical time waiting for you.
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Monthly subscription pricing models incentivize the maximum amount of padding that the maximum amount of people will put up with
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Grape posted:FFV was a super bland game imo, EXCEPT for the job system which was cool and addictive. The entire game was designed around a Twitter bot randomizing job assignments. The plot is secondary to that truth.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:oh gently caress Duck and Cover, where to begin I don't think dotabuff has all my games as it's only saying 21 Chen games. Although maybe I played more Ophelia in Heroes of Newerth and that's what I'm remembering. Lol buying blink blademail bkb on axe? https://www.dotabuff.com/players/23357135/matches?hero=axe Fast Axe needs no puny blink. I probably would have played some games to get a grasp on things before going into rank but 100 hours is more than I want. Maybe some day I'll be able to find the video of me trash talking Purge (as Omniknight) as Axe in mid. (totally should have beat him baaaaah) Besides if I don't like Axe there's always Juggernaut. https://www.dotabuff.com/players/23357135/matches?hero=juggernaut Ride the lightning. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jan 7, 2022 |
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people talking poo poo on mmo's while ignoring the absolute sickos acting like dota 2 isn't the worst game in the worst genre
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the difference between dota and mmos is that dota presents a rigid game structure with a set of learnable rules and asks you to master them or at least gain some enjoyment from practising them whereas mmos have no rigid structure or learnable rules and instead hope to dazzle you by letting you mash 1 without any thought or tactic or strategy involved through, even by videogame standards, convoluted and over padded stories like im not trying to insult or belittle anyone that likes mmos, it's fine but ask yourself why your idea of an engaging videogame is mindlessly casting the same single spell on poorly animated animals for hours and hours and hours because its just loving mind numbing
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If your MOBA doesn't have a cat girl AND a bunny girl AND a dragon girl you better take that poo poo straight back to the drawing board!!!
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Traxex is kinda waifu tho
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JollyBoyJohn posted:the difference between dota and mmos is that dota presents a rigid game structure with a set of learnable rules and asks you to master them or at least gain some enjoyment from practising them whereas mmos have no rigid structure or learnable rules and instead hope to dazzle you by letting you mash 1 without any thought or tactic or strategy involved through, even by videogame standards, convoluted and over padded stories you don't know what you're talking about. mmos are like dota once you hit the level cap.
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Vic posted:you don't know what you're talking about. mmos are like dota once you hit the level cap. "it gets good after 700 hours, i swear"
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The newest Super Smash Brothers is stupid because my nephews kick my rear end in it.
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The only MMO I was ever interested in was Uru: Ages Beyond Myst, but ultimately I never played because of how unappealing they are to me. The combat is slow and boring even compared to the slowest of PS1 JRPGs, and because it's an mmo with so many player characters there's no actual immersion in the role playing aspects because no one takes it seriously. Also, in Western made MMOs there is a serious dearth of cat girls
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Nobody cares if you dont like ff14
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fridge corn posted:Nobody cares if you dont like ff14 *Clears throat, taps thread title*
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Doctor J Off posted:*Clears throat, taps thread title* Puttfucker?
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jokes posted:Does effusive praise not count the same as low-effort shitposting focusing on the first, and worst, part of a five-part game? here's the deal: my take on it is not low effort shitposting. i subbed for like a year and a half playing at my own pace and i just burned out trying to get to "the good part." i have never seen "the good part." i have given up on ever bothering to do so
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JollyBoyJohn posted:"it gets good after 700 hours, i swear" It doesn't get good ever ya melt
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The concept of an MMO is amazing, still, to me. Open, changing dynamic world where players are the population None of the MMO's are any good though, literally not a single one
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Zzulu posted:The concept of an MMO is amazing, still, to me. Open, changing dynamic world where players are the population That is the because the constant is other players. Other players are best left as an obstacle, because otherwise you'll be teamed up with the dumbest motherfucker you've ever met without looking in a mirror.
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The difference between moba and mmorpgs is that mobas are a game while mmorpgs aren't. COME AT ME MMORPG LOOOZERS! Oh what's that you can't get up? LOL GET WRECKED! /pizza. edit: Good news it seems clicking the associate account with phone number button unlocked ranked for me. I should probably not practice at all. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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satanic splash-back posted:That is the because the constant is other players. Naw (well sometimes), mostly to me it's like.... they make these enormous stunning fantasy worlds... and in the end all it still seems to come down to is minmax numbers fuckery that caters to people who are happy even just doing this poo poo with excel and a dice.
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pretty soft girl posted:Broke: FFV has bland characters and a bad story the best way to play any final fantasy is with a randomizer that also strips out all the cutscenes and gives 5x gold and experiance
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I haven't played FF14 - is it the same as WoW as far as gameplay? Hotbars, cooldowns, red circles to avoid, all that stuff? I've gotten roped into trying a few MMOs with goons over the years and they all turned out to be WoW clones with different art. I don't get how people aren't completely sick of that gameplay by now.
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Meme Poker Party posted:All this arguing about FF14 and not ONE person has explained to me how many movie tickets worth of value it contains???? 1 Ghost Busters: Afterlife
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I liked Everquest because early on that game was hard as gently caress and super punishing, so it gave me an actual adrenaline rush a lot of the time.
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