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OP's relative should just think off the biggest number she thinks the company will pay then triple it. Capitalism innit.
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https://twitter.com/monteblan/status/1479545456577458177?s=19 It's good we've got three identical political parties now
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I had an in person covid test booked before Xmas for travel purposes before the rules changed and it became useless to me. I cancelled it like a week before it was scheduled. They won't refund me the full amount because they say I consumed a non-transferable electronic code at the point of order for which they deserve compensation. Lol. I think, seeing as I'm paying for it, I will demand the non-transferable electronic code and sell it as a nft or whatever. NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jan 7, 2022 |
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Jan 7, 2022 21:35
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WhatEvil posted:Trying to work out the true value of something in an inherently flawed framework of capitalism is like trying to achieve socialism by using the laws and rules set up within the framework of capitalism. The problem is that there's not really an alternative to money in terms of compensation. I always thought that was the big flaw in the 'money but with an expiry date' argument from the Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, that it doesn't really leave much space for seasonal work or artists who might only feel inspired infrequently but produce incredible things because of it. It's also kind of in line with the Ellie Mae O'Hagan tweets above, and how they highlight much of society's belief that not only should hard work be highly rewarded, but also that those who didn't 'work hard enough' don't deserve anything. And how that mindset is used to attack the disabled and welfare users.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:06
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Try working with someone who is a lazy good for nothing and means you have to do all the work and still maintain the view that hard work shouldnt pay. or a smoker.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:10
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Nah if a worker can get away with being paid for doing gently caress all then more power to them.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:18
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Working hard is a chumps game. Lots of people work real hard and have nothing much to show for it.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:20
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If you had the capability, you could reasonably exchange labour hours directly with someone, but it does present an issue when one person can exchange their labour hours for more money than someone else can. The problem, though, is with the money in that instance. Your lives are worth the same amount, even measured by the hour.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:20
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Try working with someone who is a lazy good for nothing and means you have to do all the work and still maintain the view that hard work shouldnt pay. or a smoker. Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, That's why I poop on company time Steve makes a dime, but I work far harder, he should not be able to support his family
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Jan 7, 2022 23:30
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If you are doing someone else's work and they are getting paid for it, it seems like hard work very clearly does not pay and that is excellent evidence of it.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:33
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Jokes on you, i have no job and no money.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:39
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OwlFancier posted:If you are doing someone else's work and they are getting paid for it, it seems like hard work very clearly does not pay and that is excellent evidence of it. i didnt say doesn't i said shouldn't
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Jan 7, 2022 23:47
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the Ahmaud Arbery murderers got life no parole (2 of them) and parole after 30 years (the other one) good loving riddance
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Jan 7, 2022 23:52
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If hard work paid then binmen would earn 10x as much as bankers. I would be OK with this.
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Jan 7, 2022 23:55
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Julio Cruz posted:the Ahmaud Arbery murderers got life no parole (2 of them) and parole after 30 years (the other one)  They're going to call their white supremacist prison gang the Toby Young Boys.
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Guavanaut posted:They all look like Spectator journalists, is there some kind of racist oval office fashion periodical. Nah, it's the other way around: Spectator journalists all look like they've scrubbed up for a court appearance. Their crime, you already know.
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Maajid Nawaz has been chucked off LBC lol. https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1479083070993141762?s=19 Actual full on conspiracy theorist poo poo. Guy's an rear end but seems a strange decision given the rest of the weirdo reactionaries they platform. Funny seeing all the centrists who loved the guy and acclaimed him as a 'moderate' when he was bashing Corbyn apparently amazed that he is, in fact, a poo poo.
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Guavanaut posted:They all look like Spectator journalists, is there some kind of racist oval office fashion periodical. i feel like they are all named clive
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Guy on the left is definitely on question time regularly.
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That's just the middle row of gammon.jpg
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The £100 number was something of a thumb-suck, but it’s related to what a number of professionals charge (and is a lot less). Maybe £75 is more reasonable, maybe £120 is, but the point remains: ask for a lot because: i) skill and talent deserve it; and ii) you don’t ask you don’t get, and a company will be paying this out of what may be a hefty marketing budget.
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who even says its marketing though?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:who even says its marketing though? What else could it be, directly or indirectly? And if it isn’t marketing it’s still a company. Take what you can. Also: https://twitter.com/josefoshea/status/1479103886367420424?s=21 therattle fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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therattle posted:What else could it be, directly or indirectly? And if it isn’t marketing it’s still a company. Take what you can. I was going to ask "what anthem?" But it's the English one. Alright then, can that only be in England and Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland would get their own anthems?
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bessantj posted:I was going to ask "what anthem?" But it's the English one. Alright then, can that only be in England and Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland would get their own anthems? At least the Welsh one doesn't witter on about saving the monarchy and begging god to make us plebs subservient to said monarch.
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bessantj posted:I was going to ask "what anthem?" I still think this is one of the most savage musical owns ever inflicted on a country. They slowed down the riff from one of their other songs and discovered this limping, wounded funeral dirge that halfway through you feel like it should just be put out of its misery, and then called it Avalon.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Try working with someone who is a lazy good for nothing and means you have to do all the work and still maintain the view that hard work shouldnt pay. or a smoker.  Smokers should earn more. A few structured five minute breaks per day is far more productive than spending the whole day chatting to people.
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I have memories of smokers I worked with who considered the smoking break like a post that had to be filled at all times.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I have memories of smokers I worked with who considered the smoking break like a post that had to be filled at all times. for years in the before Internet times the smoke break was the only mental break people got, and it was a factor in a lot of non-smokers starting, just so they didn't have to work right through till lunch.
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I smoke, and I've solved more problems/realised a quicker way to do something, pondering that while having a tab, than I care to remember. Which isn't particularly affecting anyone else while back in the days of office work, I'll concede it's more annoying if you're doing something like barwork and your fellow colleague is permanently outside chugging away.
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Yes those are the type of jobs I'm talking about.
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I remember taking up smoking while doing warehouse jobs years back just because it got me out in the fresh (lol) air more than once a day.
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Even though I am a non-smoker, I used to go out with the smokers because so many decisions were made on that doorstep and everyone from the lowliest clerk to board members even CEO were out there having a crafty 5 mins so it was a great place for finding out what was going on. Also I resented smokers getting a whole month's extra leave per year when you added up 4 x 15 mins (=smoking time + time to get out of the building and back to your workstation again) fag breaks over a year. Sod that for a game of soldiers. If I were absolute dictator of the world, I would say smokers have to take smoke breaks out of their annual leave. Either that or allow everyone to have all these little breaks every day.
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Just for you, NJANNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZaRfNjTPx8
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I've never smoked but I did try some of those nicotine pouches and oh man those things hit you like a ton of bricks, they're incredible. I could never have cocaine, that would be me
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Smokers are well known as the only patients who never need help or encouragement to mobilise. As soon as they're able they will drag themselves out of the nearest door to have a smoke. They might have just lost a foot because of smoke related complications or be lugging a tank of oxygen by by God they will figure out how to take that smoke break.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Either that or allow everyone to have all these little breaks every day. When I was in legal practice I tried quitting for a bit, I still went & sat in the park across the road & had a cold drink at 10:00 & 15:00. But one time a non-smoker came down with me & got shouted at by the (smoker) boss for skiving lmao I genuinely do think that a few short structured breaks across the day are more productive btw, I was only half-trolling NJAN99's obvious bait. Office work, but it was really noticeable in my old job that the smokers took breaks but actually worked when we were at our desks, whereas most of everyone else just sort of half-arsed it all day.
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I was an absolute slave to cigarettes until 2 months ago when I finally tried the very strongest type of vape liquid - 20mg Nic Salts. Instantaneously the desire for cigarettes vanished. Getting the right replacement dose amount of nicotine just removed any desire to smoke. Amazing really and saving me a fortune
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