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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Incredible repair here. Super clever. https://youtu.be/tstumuB1etE


Reminds me of the bosozoku weave.

Someone’s been reading hipsterbikevideos.com. Look at those angle grinder sparks in slow mo.
https://youtu.be/T7juvJDieu0

Really interesting to see some recce footage but Jesus Christ Dakar, that’s a real creepy vibe I’m getting from the first thirty seconds.
https://youtu.be/Pz5PA4_MGzI

1:25 in, Carlos Sainz wheel just wandering off into the desert.
https://youtu.be/mujOUGXC1Ac

builds character fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jan 8, 2022

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Day Eight - Rest Day

We’ve made it half way. Today is ostensibly for the riders and drivers to rest, give their bodies a break and catch up on some much needed sleep. Instead it is actually a day of media interviews, mechanics working like crazy to rebuild as much as they possibly can and for the medical tent to deal with long lines of major injuries.

It only seems like a rest day because they’re not waking up at four AM to ride for 12-19 hours.

All that said, since the dakar moved to Saudi Arabia and with the bivouac near Riyadh, there are some real perks to the rest day. Like the factory teams getting a hotel for the night. Honda, for example, is currently at the Hilton.

Classic Week One
https://youtu.be/EDWLOWwWmSU

Red Bull interviews
https://youtu.be/QuYjTxQ-l3k

Week one highlights
https://youtu.be/3X7Judv42l4

Yesterday’s Kamaz video. These continue to be the best videos of the year, even though you (i anyway) have to use auto translate
https://youtu.be/SxcDsSmUKA0

Dakar had a presentation on the future. It’s hydrogen trucks. Diesel, electric, hydrogen, remove the governor cowards!
https://youtu.be/de8K1a1Ppd4

Slow motion suffering
https://youtu.be/RCPvNqMKNrg

Six wins on a bike. Eight wins in a car. Wins in Africa, South America and Saudi Arabia. Stephane Peterhansel is unequivocally the best ever.
https://youtu.be/YayFflzTKR0

Nice discussion of just how much they’re changing out on the Toyota.
https://youtu.be/rQQPHZwDT2M

Similar for the bikes. You can see, they’re really taking it apart and this is a minor sort of semi-pro effort.
https://youtu.be/bsSHKq_djp4

Honda’s video is ever so slightly less illuminating.
https://youtu.be/CQSaFXXPrJY

BIG SHOCK! Racing is having a bbq. They know kamaz is winning so why worry?
https://youtu.be/WgQYpH8rwLA

Laia Sanz used to race on a bike. She is also unequivocally the best. She’s won ten or eleven women’s trial titles and used to compete in the bottom of the top 15 overall. Just incredible. She’s moved to cars now though after a super tough bout of Lyme disease a year and a half ago. She is also good at racing cars.
https://youtu.be/0XMxQIde5ck

I will leave you with a bit of Dakar Drama and hilarious pouting. Daniel sanders, a ridiculously fast enduro champion is mad because he was going to ride faster than Sam Sunderland who lives in the UAE and rides dunes all the time. The stage was cancelled and Sanders gave a couple interviews in which he said some riders were being princesses and pretending to be worried about risking their lives and if they only wanted to race on sand dunes they should do sand races. Sam Sunderland, in addition to riding dunes all the time in the UAE also gave an interview where he said he thought it was too much and they were risking their lives. This is more fun because they’re the only two riders on the gasgas factory team so they have to share a motorhome. For the rest of the race.



Back turned and just look at his face.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

Meanwhile, in Norway:





Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Sick. That’s the way to do it if you live in the tundra

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
I ride year round, and the only thing is stopping me is salt on the roads. Those pictures are everything that I'm missing right now 😕

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
For page 1312

https://youtu.be/6E7f0uLoFnw

Bye

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Nitrox posted:

I ride year round, and the only thing is stopping me is salt on the roads. Those pictures are everything that I'm missing right now 😕

So far my SV has proven to be quite salt resistant. Except for the chain, and some chrome plated screws, i haven't seen much rust appear.

My FZR is much more rust sensitive i've already figured out.

Get an SV650, give it some studded tires and enjoy riding!

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Day Eight - Stage 7

:siren:One of my favorite photographers for the Dakar started posting again! These are well worth just scrolling through. I've used a couple in this post but restrained myself from just posting all 100 and if you've been reading along and enjoying the pictures at all you owe it to yourself to click through and look at all of them.:siren:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set?vanity=mmphotocz&set=a.319075670227425

Yesterday was the rest day, which Sanders may or may not have spent sulking (he certainly wasn't in the official redbull interview with Walkner and Sunderland!).

This morning he woke up angry. On fire. Ready to dominate! Then he crashed into a curb on the liason right here
https://map.snapchat.com/ttp/snap/W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYZWxseGFheW9lAX4-DRK7AX4-DQ52AAAAAA/@25.271019,45.245242,12.82z
shattered his elbow, broke his wrist and messed up his kidney so bad they have to wait to operate on his shattered elbow. Hopefully he makes a full recovery and comes back full of the same kind of speed he had so far this year.

On stage, AVB, the wheelieing french rider who's long been #1 in our hearts (it's a pretty big tie for first tbh) finished 12 minutes back but because Walkner and Sunderland finished further back he's now #1 in the overall as well! By five minutes. Not a bad cushion, and he's in great position having finished 11th instead of second like current-third place Kevin Benavides (who, wow clawing all that time back over the course of the rally is incredible) but unfortunately for him, Walkner and Sunderland finished even further back so they should be able to just cruise by everyone following tracks and make up a few minutes. It's still a great move by him to take advantage of Walkner and Sunderland having some navigation issues today.



In cars, stop me if you've heard this before but... Nasser still in front, still his to lose. I expect him to cruise to victory at this point.


Kamaz? Kamaz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxcDsSmUKA0&t=33s

Look at how 4:15 in (and holy poo poo, the last ten minutes is just live in-cab footage - yes please) the driver cuts the tracks. It is a HUGE advantage to be able to follow someone on stage and do things like that. Maybe he only gained a second or two there, but particularly on bikes you can also see what happens when they hit obstacles and how big those are, so you're not only cutting the course a little bit but you're also not slowing down the same way someone who's riding to their site lines might be. If they hit a bump and you see them fly up a little but not too bad then you can just hammer the throttle. Similarly with a dip that they might have slowed for, if you see them just go down a touch rather than being swallowed whole then you can, again, just hammer down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyE7vYzfhyk


Skyler Howes - not so injured he can't stand. Not injured enough that he can actually walk.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=4621885547924512


Funny how english is the universal language of :fuckoff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA_W8x4uhwU


Trucks don't usually crash like this. Everyone was OK, obviously and I expect they'll finish the race. Because it is a truck, you see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xybkmF7J5rk























Get. Off. The. Course.


builds character fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jan 9, 2022

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020






I was walking around with some 1600 iso Fuji Natura film in my old camera and i saw a nice R6. So i took a picture of it.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Why do fuji always have crazy vibrant colors?

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Found in a chassis design book. Countersteering, motherfuckers

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T Zero
Sep 26, 2005
When the enemy is in range, so are you

builds character posted:



Funny how english is the universal language of :fuckoff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA_W8x4uhwU




How does one get into a head-on collision in such a wide open space?

Reminds me of this story:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-most-isolated-tree-in-the-world-was-killed-by-a-probably-drunk-driver-5369329/

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


T Zero posted:

How does one get into a head-on collision in such a wide open space?

Reminds me of this story:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-most-isolated-tree-in-the-world-was-killed-by-a-probably-drunk-driver-5369329/

This makes me so mad.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

T Zero posted:

How does one get into a head-on collision in such a wide open space?

Reminds me of this story:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-most-isolated-tree-in-the-world-was-killed-by-a-probably-drunk-driver-5369329/

Short answer: someone got lost and is going the wrong way on stage.

Longer answer: in the video the car is accusing the SxS of doing it and ordinarily I think we would all agree that the SxS is morally wrong and should feel bad. But, apparently the SxS folks had some data that showed they were actually on track and it was the car's fault so my guess is the car missed a waypoint and was speeding back on the road to find it and they just came around that corner blind at the same time the SxS did and voila!

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Day Nine - Stage 8


I think these graphs (from trackingdakar.com) are always really interesting. You can see the overall is pretty smooth


But in stage there's a ton of movement.


Today AVB lost, as expected, a lot of time to Sam Sunderland who won the stage and is now first in the overall again. Walkner finished third and is 3m45s back with AVB 4m43s back. So, what does that mean? Let's talk a little bit of strategy.


It is more difficult and slower to lead out a stage and reading your notes vs. following tracks and just confirming your notes. Absolutely huge difference. The top guys all start three minutes apart. So prior stage winner goes out at 0h0m. Second place goes out at 0h3m. Third goes out at 0h6m. This means, when it comes to Walkner and Sunderland that Walkner starts six minutes after Sunderland. So he can follow Sunderland and if he catches him on course he will have gained six minutes on the overall. But what about third place, AVB? He had to lead out the stage and of course lost a bit of time coming in ninth. That means he's going to start 24 minutes after Sunderland and 18 minutes after Walkner and will have plenty of clear tracks to follow. He has the potential to make up huge time!


The very best riders can both lead out and not lose time. In the past, the best (Coma, Despres, Peterhansel) riders could both lead out and win stages but those days are past. There are too many fast racers out there now who are too good at navigation. It will be an interesting test of Sunderland and Walkner to see how much they can avoid losing to AVB.

And let's not forget about Quintanilla who is also in the mix in fourth place overall 5m30s back. Unfortunately for him, he finished stage 8 in second place so will be leading out behind Sunderland - a very tough position to put more than three minutes on Sunderland as if he catches Sunderland then Sunderland will just follow him for the rest of the race (and then Walkner will join them and it'll be the three of them riding together to the end probably).


So let's say they all do well and AVB goes screaming by them. The question becomes what about the next day? You end up with an interesting see-saw of trying to lose as little time as possible when you're in front and then taking the opportunity to put a huge lead on your competitors when you're starting behind. And in the middle of all of that, you're dealing with the snowball.


What's the snowball? The snowball is the little mistakes you've made along the way plus the ridiculous exhaustion you feel for racing all day every day for two weeks. They all gather up together and start to gain momentum until they crush you. Just being a little tired and making a nav mistake and then you know you're behind so you push a little more, making it more likely that you make further mistakes which mean you need to push harder which etc etc. The snowball is real and it injures people and ruins races every single year. Sunderland got super lucky because he managed not to lose too much time after a nasty concussion and then got a combined stage cut short + being able to ride straight back to the bivouac (usually when a stage is cut short or neutralized they still have to ride through the rest of the stage to the liason and back to the bivouac rather than being able to just have a short liason on cement back to the bivouac) and then had the rest day.


Walkner is very fast and very good at navigation and he also excels at handling the snowball. I don't know how he does it but he's just better than the other guys at not getting worn down and making mistakes.


AVB on the other hand, traditionally anyway, gets just wrecked. He pushes super hard and then crashes every single year. Except last year when all the yamahas broke. Hopefully he's learned as 2020's crash was particularly bad and he seemed to be doing well in 2021 and so far this year. It will be interesting to see how all the front guys handle it this year but it's something that absolutely has to be managed. And, of course, it's much much worse for anyone without a motorhome and a masseuse.

Dear medical persons, is it good if I cannot remember anything from an entire day? Thank you in advance, Skyler Howes.
https://fb.watch/as2HYuLApN/

Daniel Sanders also seems 100% fine.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=647008466448406
A little video of where he crashed. Looks like I was wrong yesterday and there was a U turn and he just went straight.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYieITNs164/



Bam bam barreda continues to ride with a broken shoulder for the third stage in a row. This is ridiculous. He's only 14m38s back in the overall too!


Come on Matthias, anyone can read that.
https://www.facebook.com/MatthiasWalknerMX/videos/2688778191418734

I've been seeing more scrubbing over dunes this year. I wonder if, as the bikes become lighter and lighter, that will eventually be how everyone goes over dunes.


In cars, Nasser continues to cruise 38m up on Loeb.


Audi did manage to take 1-2 in the stage today which makes me think their car really is quite fast. If only they could have figured out whatever their rear left suspension issue was before the race started.
https://twitter.com/audisport/status/1480543809842913282



What do you mean "used to" Danilo?
https://twitter.com/audisport/status/1480553930803273734

Nasser is fast. I don't know if you noticed.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/208046101462573

I love the trucks.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/175188264814063

When I imagine what the best moments of Dakar must be like, I imagine them like this.
https://twitter.com/OfficialW2RC/status/1480486698492608516
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1480406946486308865

Tire changing race! Nasser vs. Loeb. Quelle surprise, Nasser wins.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/343611427316213

Look at that bike just bounce up the dune.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/658742532147997

Truck wheelie 35s in and then after that some very solid truck drifting.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/175168671484412

Nasser in the same spot, look at that toyota jump!
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/981010409163021

de villiers, the guy who ran over a motorcycle twice (to his credit, only once was on purpose) has had people be mean to him on the internet. That is very sad. Almost as sad as getting run over by a car at the dakar rally. (again, and to his credit? he really only hit and then ran over one motorcycle on purpose the other one was on a blind dune and he couldn't do anything about it)
https://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news/de-villiers-death-threats-bike-crashes-upsetting/7130615/amp/

The Coronel brothers are out after Tim hurt his back (think I posted that video already but lmk if I didn't). It's too bad because they're fun to watch and I'm all for anyone producing content. Also, they've somehow gotten a lot faster over the years so good for them!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXsy9_OFaUY

Remember the truck that crashed with the paraplegic driver and another truck came by and tore off its hood to help get him out? Well, redbull did a little story on them. It's nice. The discussion on his gas/brake on the steering wheel is pretty interesting too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9aDBvLXCMQ

Of course AVB speaks Italian. Subtitles + auto translate required unless you also speak Italian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzENz9DVOY

In trucks, it's kamaz with a surprise 1-2-3! The real surprise is that Sotnikov put a little more time on Nikolaev to... oh, maintain his first place just like literally every other stage in the rally (except the prologue!). Loprais, in fourth, in a not-Kamaz is now an hour and a half back. Ah well.


Kamaz's youtube channel is a day behind now... This is their rest day video. 42 minutes long! 2m12s in it's already a good video - guy using the "push real hard with your leg on a wrench" method of getting a bolt off. He's a pro so he never has to kick it like some of us do. Not me, obviously. But some of you. The first fifteen minutes are just hanging out talking to the mechanics so if you like this part of it you should definitely watch. Even if you have to use auto translate because you don't speak italian or russian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdBHwXG3E5w

Let's take some time to check on the SxSs.



And it's been too long since we checked on the quads! Perfect.










Some nice classic car pictures showed up today too! Some are from stage seven but I know you won't complain.


"Hey, that doesn't belong in the classic class!" Yes, it does. You are just old.


Allez Droupsy!






Somewhere in here there's a joke about the camels being faster.


Not quite...


Ah, there it is.










Just beautiful landscape.


Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


Thank you for pointing out the Kamaz Master youtube channel highlights some posts back. Knowing Russian coming in clutch.

busalover
Sep 12, 2020
These pictures also remind me I know zilch about saudi-arabian geology. I just assumed it's all dunes. Genuinely beautiful, some of the landscapes.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Russian Bear posted:

Thank you for pointing out the Kamaz Master youtube channel highlights some posts back. Knowing Russian coming in clutch.

Anything interesting in there that the auto translate might not catch? Anything good on the car crash that they cover in today's video? Those videos really are the best thing any media puts out covering the rally.

busalover posted:

These pictures also remind me I know zilch about saudi-arabian geology. I just assumed it's all dunes. Genuinely beautiful, some of the landscapes.

It really is incredible, right? Like, I'd love to go ride around there. But I'd really want to make sure I had enough water.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Day Ten - Stage Nine

Today's (intentionally?) phallic course saw continued close competition in the bikes and more of the same in the cars and trucks.


Well, well, well, look who was right about strategy. If you thought I wasn't going to remind you, then you were wrong.


In bikes, Matthias Walkner got off to a shockingly slow start, dipping as low as 30th before going full throttle to the donkey (throttle to the donkey is probably my favorite phrase from the South American versions of the dakar rally - I believe it's a very rough translation of dale gas al burro, which I honestly forget which of the south american riders it was that used it a few years ago to say they were loving flying but I just like it) and finishing the stage in fourth.


Sam Sunderland had a tough time on navigation but did manage not to get too far behind, with Walkner never quite catching him on course (remember, Walkner started six minutes behind him and at the last WP Sunderland's time was 2h37m33s and Walkner's was 2h23m36s so Walkner could probably see signs of his dust hanging in the air but Sunderland was still two minutes ahead on course.


AVB is now in third, just 3m56s behind in the overall with Quintanilla strongly in contention in 4m41s back. Kevin Benavides, the reigning champion, has done an outstanding job pulling back all the time he lost early (36m behind after stage 1!!!) and is now actually a real possibility to win again, sitting 10m22s back with Bang Bang Barreda who continues to somehow ride with a broken shoulder another half minute back at 10m57s. Those are your five real possible winners at this point, although it being the Dakar all it takes is a fall or a navigation error and all of a sudden someone else comes from 30m back. But, realistically our winner will be one of those guys. I think Walkner is probably in the best spot but it's all way too close to make any real calls. He's starting fourth tomorrow with two minutes on Sunderland, and Sunderland will have to go like hell to make up time so Sunderland will have to start form the front on stage eleven while Walkner starts further back.


Nacho Cornejo is fast. So. So. SOOO. FAST. He was leading last year until a crash and this year came back to 26m down from 46m back before having a tough stage 7 and losing ten more minutes. But he won today's stage and is absolutely someone who will compete Sanders and Howes as the next generation of racers. I think it's a toss up between who wins a dakar first, him or Sanders. Also, his name is Jose Ignacio Cornejo Florimo but because he loves us and wants us to be happy he goes by Nacho Cornejo. Typing this up, I just now realized Nacho was short for Ignacio and not just a nickname based on snacks like Sanders's "chucky".



I believe this is how they say "I love you" in Australian. Yup, that's the spot where he crashed. Fortunately he's out of surgery and doing well.


Unlike the cars where Nasser cruises.


Loeb lost two minutes to put him 39m back and at this point it's just the desert doing Nasser's work for him. Loeb has to push too hard to make up all that time - it's impossible without Nasser making a mistake, but Nasser just keeps cruising along.


Trucks is still a Kamaz 1-2-3, with Sotnikov 8m51s up on Nikolaev. It takes four minutes to change a truck tire in ideal conditions, as you see below, so they're still within an unlucky puncture of switching places, but third is Shibalov 41m back and fourth is Ales "not-Kamaz" Loprais 1h33m back so it's really down to Sotnikov vs. Nikolaev for the win. I'm rooting for Sotnikov because, despite being the reigning champion, he's still the underdog vs. Nikolaev who has won an incredible five dakar rallies in the truck class and finished twice a further three times.


Kamaz's videographers continue to succumb to the snowball and are still a day behind. This was posted 12 hours ago, so at the start of today's stage. Stop being a day behind, Kamaz! 6m20s in or so, I can't believe that someone wouldn't get the gently caress out of the way of a truck like that. See the kamaz blue behind you and just move over. It's the dakar rally yeah, but don't die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UX2A0dP7HM

Bikes in the desert.
https://www.facebook.com/dakar/videos/471877131040871
https://www.facebook.com/dakar/videos/403391761567007

Danilo Petrucci is great but he's no AVB or de Soultrait. DO A WHEELIE FOR THE CHOPPER.
https://www.facebook.com/dakar/videos/286206773502185

sarlacc pit.video - it looks so easy for the best drivers to just zip up and over the dunes (awesome, yes, but also easy) but this kind of video reminds you that for everyone else it's not quite as simple.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/321332399867663

*yakety sax playing*
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/3107689662879278

Nasser surfing his toyota down a dune.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/2249251608547892

Kamaz... hop!
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/989854811886999

The scientific term for the Kamaz hop is actually a "breach."


This dude has so many good posts and I like how much he loves Nasser. His caption for this one?
"Our eternal hero Nasser Al-Atia is approaching achieving the most precious title"
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/461832455385778

"The infidels flew away, children"
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/1098089937669162

Do you like helicopters? Can you speak arabic? You only need to answer yes to one of those to watch this.
https://twitter.com/ssc_sports/status/1480882057593167873


Yes, this is correct.
https://twitter.com/Petrux9/status/1480883774888026115

Here you can see one of the things Kamaz was complaining about in an earlier video. The fast trucks still have to start behind the slow cars and SxS. But this is never going to change, I think, because the trucks tear up the track so much and it's already difficult enough for the not-pros as is. And while nobody gives a poo poo about the bikes, the cars are bringing real money and lots of french people and if there's one thing the ASO cares about it's france. But if there's two things it's money and france.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1480823937038798848

How long does it take you and a buddy to change a tire?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NHUXafQeEA

There are also some pictures from yesterday in here because some of them were so good.

"If you truly love Dakar, you can find beauty anywhere. Even in the quads and SxSs." - Vincent Van Gogh






Respect for the car wheelie, however brief and unintentional.






https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1480917424929075200













Can your garbage truck do this? Only one way to find out.
























I was going to end on one of these two pictures. They're just incredible.




But somehow, this one seems more appropriate.

right arm
Oct 30, 2011

LimaBiker posted:



I was walking around with some 1600 iso Fuji Natura film in my old camera and i saw a nice R6. So i took a picture of it.

my first (street) bike :kimchi:

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Let's start the day with some heartbreak.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481191186924716032

Day Eleven - Stage Ten

It's appropriate that on this most holy of days,
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481243311478165505

AVB, patron saint of the wheelie, had a great day and ended up finishing fourth on stage, ending up in first with 5m59s on Sunderland, 6m15s Quintanilla and 8m24s on Walkner.


A very, very impressive ride.


And here's hoping he can not lose too much tomorrow and stay on the podium at the the finish. It's a super tight race at this point until the end. One interesting note about the last day - it's run in reverse. So whoever gets first on the penultimate stage starts last on the final stage, second starts second to last, etc until you get the slowest starting first. It's traditionally not a real racing stage and is generally short but it's long enough that if the racers are within a minute or two they'll try to win.




Ricky Brabec still 38m back in the overall. Just so tough that he got caught out by the navigation on day one.


Loeb managed a blistering pace


to claw back... ninety seconds! on Nasser. Putting him a mere 32m40s behind in the overall.


Peterhansel, won the stage with Sainz coming in second two minutes behind, meaning that now each of the Audis has won a stage. If they fix their rear suspension issues they should be competitive next year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBasdZP5U2M

Some bikes literally flying through the dunes from yesterday.
https://www.facebook.com/100001420118449/videos/610965583314686

Bush mechanic, Toby Price puts a truck tire on using fire. He only catches the truck on fire maybe and by god look at his hair.
https://www.facebook.com/106053110845166/videos/402860554949167

Yes, Nasser 100% puts all his own tires on his rims. I believe you.
https://www.facebook.com/100001420118449/videos/296804429168687

Kamaz is again 1-2-3 with Sotnikov putting a couple more minutes on Nikolaev who's now 10m18s back.


Nobody else is good at driving trucks.


Kamaz video again is great - look at them driving through those rocks at 3m30s in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FU37lAq5ts

This is just beautiful.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481264296835301380

Is this solidarity or is it "get out of the way!" (it's solidarity)
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481219252652752902

I don't know why these clips are always like ten to fifteen seconds. Surely the helicopter follows them for longer than that. Do they think I don't want to see cars racing through the desert for a full minute?
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481204661604564992

That'll buff out.



Stefan Svitko is a very fast pro on a non-factory team/semi pro privateer. There are some rumblings that he would be on a factory ride if he were from a big country but frankly he's just not as fast as the guys who got factory rides - Sanders and Howes finished fourth and fifth last year. He did finish second overall in 2016 so probably deserved a factory ride back then, but KTM had Price who won that year, Sunderland who won in 2017 and Walkner who won in 2018 for their main guys.


A jaunty chapeau.


Up to the top nice and easy, peak over the edge and then gas!






Just some friends out for a trail ride. *cue on any sunday music*


I wonder if the helicopter makes it harder to ride or if hearing it only makes them push even harder.


It must be fun for this guy, driving along delivering some hay when you're passed by a convoy of Dakar trucks.




If you're going to crash, crash in the sand before these rocks. Andrew Short has had a very solid if unspectacular race. Nice to see him on target to finish this year.


At this point his primary job is as a water carrier - to follow AVB on stage and let AVB cannibalize his bike if anything breaks.


This is one of my favorite feelings. If you're hitting a hill just right and your rear hooks up as you come down, lofting the front until you hit flat ground. This picture is how it feels.


OK, hear me out. It's like knight rider meets airwolf but in a desert race.



How it started.


How it's going.


GET. OUT. OF. THE. WAY. YOU. WILL. DIE.


Checking in on SxSs...


There's some real nonsense with records going on this year. Seth Quintera just won his tenth stage, tying the record for stage wins. But he did it by failing to finish a stage and then re-entering the rally which the new rules permit. So does it really count? No. No it does not. But also yes. But really, no.


And let's check in on the quads...


Sorry, the quad pictures were just too good today.


I like the pictures of the dunes but some of these canyons make for just incredible photography.



Still, don't crash on those rocks.


I mean, look at that.


You can tell they're going fast because of the speed.


But this is my favorite.


If you hit it perfect, I bet that rock on the right is a sick jump.


left, right, left, right, GO


My truck is broken.


Hit it with a hammer until it's fixed.


Some beautiful Dakar classic shots.




:siren:ALLEZ DROUPSY!:siren:



Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

ride red :rip:

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Dakar Strategy

I have to admit I was counting stages wrong because I had started following dakar's method of counting 1a and 1b as just 1. Ugh. So... there are only TWO DAYS LEFT.

What does this mean for strategy and who's going to win the dakar rally (in the bikes class, because otherwise it's nasser and sotnikov)?

The last day is a 100 mile stage (that is run in reverse starting order - this has always been true but I can't find it for this year). 100 miles is a short stage and it's traditionally quite easy too so you can't make up a lot of time.

Just a reminder, here are the contenders.
1 #042 - ADRIEN VAN BEVEREN (FRA) YAMAHA 33h27m06s +00:00:00
2 #003 - SAM SUNDERLAND (GBR) GASGAS 33h33m05s +00:05:59
3 #007 - PABLO QUINTANILLA (CHL) HONDA 33h33m21s +00:06:15
4 #052 - MATTHIAS WALKNER (AUT) KTM 33h35m30s +00:08:24
5 #088 - JOAN BARREDA BORT (ESP) HONDA 33h37m53s +00:10:47

And the starting order.


A KTM and a husqvarna (remember, KTM, Husqvarna and GasGas are all one team for our purposes) starting out, and then a honda. Only one of whom is in contention for the overall and all of whom have a rider from the other team coming after them but before their teammate.

Bang Bang Barreda has the toughest road to a championship starting out third but he's also the guy with the most raw speed. Unfortunately, he tends to ride a little over his head and then crash and he's exhibited otherwordly toughness this year to continue to ride after doing exactly that and breaking his shoulder in the process. He needs to catch Price and Luciano and win the stage by 11 minutes more than any of the other contenders. It's not impossible, but what he really needs is for the other competitors to get lost. All of them. Somehow. I don't know how. Still, he is just absurdly fast and he has led out and won a stage before so if anyone can do it, he's... not really the guy. It's probably Price or Quintanilla or Walkner or Sunderland. Still, he does have a chance!

The second contender is AVB, starting out fourth on the day. He is in an absolutely brutal spot because he's close enough to the front he can't just follow all the tracks but he also doesn't have a teammate in front who can lay tracks or slow down and ride with him. This is really a result of the official, factory Yamaha team actually being a factory effort by Yamaha europe (and primarily Yamaha france) and not the Yamaha mothership in Japan. So it's a factory effort but... not quite on the level of Honda or KTM, both of whom have the full support of the parent company. He does have Andrew Short starting six minutes behind him, so if anything goes wrong he can get help from Shorty. AVB's goal has to be to lose as little time as possible and he cannot lose more than 7 minutes. I think one minute is the absolute maximum you can make up on the last day. I may be wrong about that, but I think AVB has to try to limit the damage such that he's in first at the end of the day. It's a tall order and fairly unlikely, but he can do it.

Next is Quintanilla in tenth. He's in an excellent spot, just six minutes back, with a super fast teammate in Barreda starting out in third to make sure there are no navigation issues and to keep the pressure on everyone else. He has enough space between him and the start of the race that he can ride fast and still put time on the board, but he's disadvantaged vs. KTM because he only has the one teammate ahead of him and Brabec is starting way back in fifteenth so won't be of any help at all except as a water carrier. Whether or not Quintanilla wins will be entirely up to him. If he can put in a spectacular ride he can win, and he's in the same group as Walkner and Sunderland but he's probably last of those three. He's also on a new bike this year but it may be the best bike and he's adapted very quickly.

And then we get to the two real favorites. Both are starting way back - Sunderland starts in 17th and Walkner is in 26th. There used to be a rule that the pros got to move up to 20th if they started further back than that so you didn't have a super fast guy unsafely blazing through the entire field just because he lost a tire the day before. But I don't know if that applies to Walkner. Either way, he has a slight advantage in starting further back over Sunderland for two reasons. First, he gets to follow a few more sets of tracks. Anything that makes things a little bit easier is better and at that point small shortcuts may even become a little more clear. Second, there will be a refueling stop at some point and at a refueling stop you have to stop for fifteen minutes. During that time you can get gas, use the bathroom (although all the pros use condom catheters that have a little hose that empties by their boot) eat some snacks, pose, whatever. You also get a chance to see who's fifteen minutes in front of you and talk to folks to find out who was in front of them. For example, if I start out exactly fifteen minutes behind you, and then when I get to the fuel stop I see you leave four minutes after I get there then I know that I've made up four minutes of time on you. So Walkner will have the best idea of just how hard he has to push in the last half of the stage to win. Sunderland and Walkner have to be the favorites, but as between them it's a tossup. Walkner has a better starting position but Sunderland has 2m25s of time on him. If either of them crashes or makes a navigation error, that's the race.

What can the teams do? I mentioned Yamaha only having two riders. They cannot do anything. There are no clever strategies for Yamaha. Just speed.

Honda has four riders but two of them are way back and two are up front. If Honda really, really wants to win then I think their best chance is to have Barreda slow down and wait for Quintanilla and then rely on Barreda's ability to ride faster than anyone else on already-laid-down tracks and have Quintanilla follow him. They cannot possibly do this because Barreda will explode from the unfairness of it and Barreda still has enough of a chance that they probably want to give both their riders a shot in case everyone else messes up (or everyone else + one of their riders). But I'd love to see it.

KTM has far and away the most options. One of the old tried and true race strategies is pretending you got lost. KTM can have Price and Luciano go out and take a wrong turn at a difficult navigation point and lay down some wrong tracks to throw everyone else off. By the time Sunderland and Walkner get there everyone should have an idea of the right way to go and if they play their cards right they can tell Sunderland and Walkner where they're doing it so they can avoid making the same mistake. I think they're actually unlikely to do this because a vanilla strategy is so likely to be successful for them but if we see Price and Luciano talking about getting "lost" tomorrow in interviews this may well be what happened. I think it's more likely they just play it straight and have Sunderland and Walkner both just go all out following tracks and figure that even if one of them bins it the other will take the overall. There isn't really anyone on factory KTM that is close enough or fast enough to either to meet up and ride with them to the finish.

That's the most typical strategy you'll see where you have teams trying to scramble to get a rider who's lower in the overall to put on a burst and finish higher on a stage so they can slow down and ride with the race leader to the finish. That covers you if they crash, if something goes wrong mechanically and in case the navigation is difficult.

With all that out of the way, my head says it's going to be Sunderland but my heart says WalknerAVB. That, of course, means it's going to Quintanilla.

Extended Highlights from Yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgbH6Fwp9J0

https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481336424829915136

https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481325110749327362

Detailing your dakar buggy is very important.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481315033892077568

Kamaz starting to catch back up with their videos!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epBngqpfWPc

One other thing I thought was interesting. Nasser is the overall leader of the rally but the top five bikes are all faster overall than Loeb. Does this mean anything? No. They ran one stage differently so it's not apples to apples, but it's still cool.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Toe Rag posted:

ride red :rip:

Ordinarily I would agree it was crazy to switch from your dakar-winning bike to another manufacturer but his folks own a KTM dealership and apparently all he's wanted since he was little was to be a factory KTM rider so I get it.

GriszledMelkaba
Sep 4, 2003



1312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ceZpA0xlKI

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Let's start with a different flavor of heartbreak.

Paulo Gonçalves, Dakar 2020 posted:

The important thing is that we never give up, and we keep on racing. The target is to do our best everyday, and to be safe until the end.
RIP Gonk.
https://www.facebook.com/HeroMotoSports/videos/1094705461296409






Day Twelve Stage Eleven
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481498745695002625

They did it! They actually did it!
https://twitter.com/dakar/




Uh, I mean... Toby Price definitely got lost and could not find his first checkpoint. KTM turned out to get a huge advantage from having so many fast riders that one (or two) were guaranteed to finish first and they could throw banana peels like this at Honda and Yamaha and then still have someone like Kevin Benavides back in it finishing first on the stage and able to either lead out tomorrow (or following to make sure nothing is wrong if it's backwards starting order).


And Luciano Benavides was definitely not messing with Bang Bang here...




Then, they both just latched on and followed him. Unfortunately for KTM, he's too fast to get ahead of far enough to do more navigation shenanigans.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481513845248053250

AVB got fooled by Price as well and lost today, dropping to fourth overall. But goddamn can he ride.
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=922393705089719

Quintanilla had a good ride, coming in seventh on the stage and eight minutes ahead of anyone else starting in the top ten.


Meanwhile, Walkner started late but put the hammer down, going wide open throttle.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481506298470584320

But it wasn't enough.


Sam Sunderland had an absolute monster day, finishing second overall and putting himself 6m52s ahead of former teammate Pablo Quintanilla and 7m15s ahead of Walkner.


This is what the refueling station I mentioned yesterday looks like.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481542784708349953

Did you think I'd forgotten about Skyler Howes? Nope. He made it home and apparently can't remember anything from the entire day that he crashed on stage and then got back on his bike and finished the stage. He's recovering but said it felt like he was badly hungover for four days. I'm sure that's fine for your long term health, but either way he'll be back next year! And just look at his friend's mustache. Amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdKPFsiGu2o

Ricky Brabec managed to continue being fast but not fast enough to make up for his first day error and finished in sixth overall.


Nasser SUPERFAN posted:

The departure of our eternal hero Nasser Al-Atiyah in the eleventh stage in Bisha.. Good luck to our hero, God willing, towards a new victory in Dakar.. #Things_are_good 💪🤲☝️
Come on Nasser 👏👏
Keep your eyes on#201😎
https://www.facebook.com/100001420118449/videos/397506532174252

same guy who just loves Nasser posted:

This is the moment to victory✌️
So we put our hands up🙌
Yalla Nasser 💪
Keep your eyes on#201 😎
#Dakar2022 🇸🇦
https://www.facebook.com/100001420118449/videos/1128618894612121

Nasser continued to race smart to the finish, coming in seventh on a stage that saw Sainz and Eckstrom putting two Audis in the top three, and forty seconds ahead of Loeb.


Just to make a point, I assume.


That makes it Nasser 1, Loeb 2 and Nasser's teammate and hometown Saudi boy Yazeed Al Rajhi 3.


Peterhansel with 46m19s of penalties still finished 57th in the overall, ahead of nine other folks. That would be disheartening for them if he wasn't Stephane Peterhansel.


Serial motorcycle runner-over Giniel de Villiers discovered that god punishes as he's fallen to fifth despite having his five hour penalty being reversed. That will definitely not teach him anything, but I can't say I'm disappointed that he finished off the podium.


loving Kamaz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFu4d2LnkMI

Sotnikov 1, Nikolaev 2 and Shibalov 3.


To his credit, Nikolaev really tried today and ended up winning the stage.


But he only managed to get two minutes back on Sotnikov.


The king is dead. Long live the king.


Dakar rally media person, the gently caress you think you're talking to asking stupid questions like this? Step into my office.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481619544137469957

You couldn't even afford the hook?
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481608215636758528

Kevin Benavides returned today. One of the big reasons for the change to the rules that now allows competitors to return and win stages in the rally is that the Dakar Rally is now part of the FIA World Rally-Raid Championship rather than just being its own race. Points for the World Rally-Raid Championship are determined based on stage wins/places rather than on overall position at the end of a race. So you can crash out of the dakar rally on stage one, get a 12 hour penalty for rejoining and then go on to win every remaining stage and have a huge lead in the world rally-raid championship. I assume this is a good system without any problems at all. No questions. Thank you.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481611993043779585

Wrong, that would be Toby "the bivouac barber" Price.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481604442197839872

He's just so great at making me think he is fun and good.
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/episodes/bivouac-barber-s1-e1

Seriously, look how nervous Sainz is in the background at the beginning. And Price still gets him to wear a bowl on his head.
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/episodes/bivouac-barber-s1-e5

This person is the best in the history of the world at doing this thing right here.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481572983516938250

We're near the end, so you're going to just get a huge number of pictures that I liked with little rhyme or reason. Enjoy!


















































































































builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Another post because tomorrow is the last day.

The best interview in the rally.
https://www.facebook.com/100000220414168/videos/1144947816247582/

A Dakar classic and for good reason.




Not everyone's bike gets a helicopter ride out.


Just a photographer flexing.



What could you possibly have forgotten that comes in a book and you just hover the chopper like that to pick up?


PEAK FITNESS. (I joke because he's a better rider than I'll ever be and honestly probably fitter than I'll ever be too)


Vent holes for increased bib mousse cooling.


Apparently this happened from a landing off a dune jump.


Clever alternative to a bike stand.


Crouching makes you go marginally faster. He must be going at least 100mph for crouching to make a difference on that bike.


Work permitting, I will do a post on Malle Moto.


Honda video from the day. It is just a bunch of gnashing teeth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3StE3si4c5A

Classic car highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lONLD56t0oU

Believe it or not, this ends well.

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnQR0Fo79iM

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Day Thirteen - Stage Twelve
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481922788688596992



I will have one more post after this because inevitably people post a bunch of "best of dakar" picture spreads and at the very least I want to share MCH photography's.

Snapchat videos at the finish. Just click on the heat maps.
https://map.snapchat.com/@21.097357,40.982660,12.50z
And at the start.
https://map.snapchat.com/ttp/snap/W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYamFncGNzbHpoAX5XxRwhAX5XxRvgAAAAAA/@21.197776,41.527700,12.55z

Today's stage was only 160km but thanks to a regular start, there was still a chance that Sunderland, starting second, would be caught by Walkner starting fourth or, more likely, Quintanilla starting sixth. And while Quintanilla tried he came up short, managing to finish first but taking only 3m25s out of Sunderland's lead. That makes Sam Sunderland your 2022 Dakar Rally winner!

https://twitter.com/RoBerasategui/status/1481882398337945601
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1481885835503054851






Quintanilla finished second.



Walkner third.



AVB fourth.


Bang bang Barreda fifth with, and I cannot repeat this enough times, a BROKEN SHOULDER for the past week.


Nacho finished in sixth.


And Ricky managed a pretty incredible climb back to finish seventh.




Andrew Short brought Yamaha a second top-ten in eight.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYrWL1yO6lD/

Mason Klein rounded out the third of the americans in the top ten in ninth.



And bivouac barber Toby "Pies" Price finished tenth despite losing a billion hours with Ricky on day one and then losing a bunch of time getting lostmisleading the hondas and yamahas yesterday.



It is incredible that after 39 HOURS of racing, the final three were less than seven minutes apart. Just a great time to be following the dakar rally for bikes.

Danilo Petrucci also finished.


In cars, Nasser cruised to victory.


https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/216343840707806

Smooth is fast.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/685279132509007


Nasser Superfan posted:

Congratulations to our eternal hero Nasser Al-Atia and Matthew Boumel
I swear to God that's enough.. Praise and thanks be to Allah
You deserve Abu Shaeel, the pride of the Arabs 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
#الامور_طيبه 🥇🥇🥇👏👏👏👏
#Dakar2022
Plus a picture of the superfan, Mr. Aliswed who's done a great job posting pictures for me to use. Thanks random internet guy who loves Nasser!


Loeb finished second.


And Yazeed al Rajhi was an hour back in third.


Audi used their finisher trophies as wheel chocks.


But they'll be back next year.


The trucks? Well, I think we all know the story there. Sotnikov has now firmly taken the torch Nikolaev has unwillingly been passing the past two years with another first place finish.
https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1482015902166102023

As I was finishing typing this post, he just completely confounded the host of the awards ceremony by driving his truck up onto the stage. Unlike literally any other competitor. But what the gently caress are you going to do? Tell him no?


Nikolaev was just ten minutes back.


In third, also Kamaz with Anton Shibalov who would be the star driver on any other team.


And last, but not least on the Kamaz team (ok, also least sorry buddy) Andrey Karginov came in fourth, completing the clean sweep and marking Kamaz as far and away the most dominant team to participate in this race.


Everyone else? You tried!


Coming as no surprise at all to anyone, the Dakar classic category was won by a toyota land cruiser.


SxSs were a class. Quintero didn't win but because of the rules was let back in and got to break a record for stage wins. Which is totally legitimate and I am not posting this so that you hate him like he was some weird F1 villain.



Quads were also permitted to compete.


One of the things that really strikes me about the end of the Dakar rally is how there are really only two feelings. Just pure, unadulterated joy




and a kind of abyssal exhaustion mixed with profound relief that it's over.


Sometimes you have both at once.




You might think this is happy, but that's the look on the left of "dear god please just let me rest."



Just proof that those little nissan pickups are literally the third best vehicle ever made (behind the honda postie bike and the toyota version).
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/464302138612169

This belongs to Kamaz now.
https://www.facebook.com/majd.iswed80/videos/1569683366758194

A bit of strategy on stage 11 - Nasser's teammate just sat and waited 14m for him on stage so they could set off together in case anything went wrong.
https://www.facebook.com/running.fighter/videos/531175157903338

Today's Kamaz video! I think this may be the best one yet. 6m58s that bowl. Poor trucks, you live there now. Unsticking a truck at 12m30s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCnzIByZBEQ

Speaking of that bowl... I laughed.
https://www.facebook.com/running.fighter/videos/351269170167651

Washing day.
https://www.facebook.com/106053110845166/videos/448772623494424

Redbull on the porsche and fiat panda in the classics class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72ir-RvizM

I love so much that the russian government has put out a propaganda video defending Kamaz from accusations of cheating. If they are cheating, they're doing a great job at it but let me tell you what does not convince me you're not cheating. The fact that you put out this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkbNmjHAqfg

Crash video! Those folks almost died at 1m20s. Sheesh. 3m50s look at the suspension on the trucks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd1NJtJB0Gk

Look ma, no hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG30SjcBQc

Brothers don't shake. Brothers gotta hug. (don't forget, Quintanilla was on husvqarna aka white ktm for the past few years so he and Sunderland used to be teammates)



These two photos won the Emile-Poucan award for best picture from a car


and from a helicopter.


A beautiful line.


A+ father-son trail ride.


A helicopter following the hydrogen powered truck. Feels like a statement but it isn't.


You, uh, got a little something on you there.


Not so much there, or there...


Making it look a lot easier than it is.


That'll do, pig.


That'll do.


Observe how this not-drunk driver misses the only tree for 100 miles.


You just know that roost is getting in that rider's jacket.


130kph.


Get it dirty? Check.


Dakar legend? Also check.


Looks 2wd to me.


Better hurry or the trucks will get you.


So close and yet...


so far.


Toyota had a spectacular showing this year. Letting the 4wd cars have bigger tires made a huge difference.


Like riding on the moon.







A bit more Dakar classic before the end.












right arm
Oct 30, 2011

:hellyeah:

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
That proposal is so wholesome

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Nitrox posted:

That proposal is so wholesome

That owns.

busalover
Sep 12, 2020
I thought the red-haired aussie guy was leading the motorcycle rankings, what happened there?

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Yeah, I really love the proposal. Maybe my favorite Dakar moment this year but I’m all sorts of sentimental so…

https://mobile.twitter.com/dakar/status/1481980397919612929?cxt=HHwWgsC54b3UhpEpAAAA

busalover posted:

I thought the red-haired aussie guy was leading the motorcycle rankings, what happened there?

You may be confusing Daniel Sanders, GasGas factory rider with his teammate, British rider Sam Sunderland.

Daniel Sanders is the guy who pouted about the stage being shut down early and then crashed out immediately on the liaison the next morning. Sanders is 100% going to win a Dakar at some point and is on his way to the top. Sam had already won one and is nearing the end of his career.

Daniel Sanders:






Sam Sunderland:


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Jan 16, 2008

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Some time over the summer I damaged or spilled some poo poo on whatever I was wearing at the shop, so I grabbed a new t-shirt from the rack of t-shirts that nobody bought for years. Ended up with this one and decided that it's now actually the coolest t-shirt I own. I feel pity for anyone who wears t-shirts with pictures of mere motorcycles on it. Only totally cool cooldudes would wear this shirt.

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


What the gently caress is wrong with me, why do I suddenly think scooters are really cool?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with me, why do I suddenly think scooters are really cool?

Engineer spotted, seize him!

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T Zero
Sep 26, 2005
When the enemy is in range, so are you
The dorkier the vehicle, the cooler you have to be to pull it off

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