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acumen posted:If you join a group it seems like as long as your group as a whole contributes enough to get a gold and you get a single hit in, you get gold. Join groups it's easy as hell Yeah, the same thing goes for FATEs. As long as you contribute at all, you get the same credit as the rest of your party. It's pretty normal from what I've seen in the Southern Front and Zadnor to just invite randos for a drop-in-drop-out party. Do expect to get roped into critical engagements though.
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That sounds incorrect to me since I usually play in a party with my brother and we have definitely gotten different rewards (gold, silver, bronze) from doing the same FATES. More often than not, actually. Which is one reason we stopped doing FATES; they desync our exp numbers. And also they suck and running fate trains is a form of torture.
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Jan 10, 2022 18:49
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I've definitely gotten golds for doing a single harpe in zadnor when I arrived late to a fate but my party was there on time
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Perhaps it shares a fraction of the contribution or something. I'm talking about a small 2-person party.
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Clarste posted:That sounds incorrect to me since I usually play in a party with my brother and we have definitely gotten different rewards (gold, silver, bronze) from doing the same FATES. More often than not, actually. Which is one reason we stopped doing FATES; they desync our exp numbers. And also they suck and running fate trains is a form of torture. If you were running them while levelling, the final count of controbution may still scale with level. There's always that warning of "you are under the recommended level for this fate, your controbution will not be counted as much," right? Might be related.
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I've definitely gotten gold for doing next to no damage in Eureka FATEs when I was in a party. Either a single hit, or throwing 100 damage midares at Louhi 
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Part of the reason I needed 4 clears of Chi to get my Level Checker mount is because I kept getting a bronze rating while everyone else in my party would get silver. I think they changed the participation formula or something.
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There's also varying minimum participation based on type of fate as well. 6 turn ins for collectathon, party damage done to a NM, number of enemies hit for crowds, etc.
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Zomborgon posted:If you were running them while levelling, the final count of controbution may still scale with level. We're always the same level, so that is definitely not an issue. I literally do not play this game except in a duo.
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Skirmish contribution works the same as FATE contribution. The issue is that level scaling on several Bozja skirmishes (including at least three in the third part of Zadnor) has never been fixed, so the enemies may spawn at minimum HP even if they've been stomped by 20+ people the last three times they popped. If it's a multi enemy skirmish, it's easy: have agro on 6 or more targets before they die and you get gold, even if you're solo. It gets weirder with bosses, and much harder when they die in 3 GCDs, but as long as your group has done something like 20+% of the total damage and you're on the agro list you should get credit. Always group in Bozja though, just because of those low HP skirmishes. People without parties have an icon over their heads. Just spot invite them when you see them. Most of the time they'll accept, and if they don't no biggie, there's other people to invite.
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DPS leveling also has the option of trusts. It'll take a bit longer than the average pubbie run but you bypass the queue times.
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I believe it scales based on the number of people who were nearby when the fate spawned, in zadnor. Which means that depending on the respawn timer, it might spawn while everyone is still running to it and die in 3 seconds, or it might spawn after everyone arrives and actually have an hp bar
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I've definitely gotten gold on normal fates (not bozjan) when my wife is doing them and I just do a drive-by single attack on my way to my next hunt. I think if it's a turn-in one you might need to turn in at least one item though.
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cheetah7071 posted:I believe it scales based on the number of people who were nearby when the fate spawned, in zadnor. Which means that depending on the respawn timer, it might spawn while everyone is still running to it and die in 3 seconds, or it might spawn after everyone arrives and actually have an hp bar If that's how it works then they definitely didn't correctly assume how people would actually approach the content, did they Saint Freak posted:I've definitely gotten gold on normal fates (not bozjan) when my wife is doing them and I just do a drive-by single attack on my way to my next hunt. Turn-ins guarantee gold if you do 7+, and you have to turn in at least one for any credit. I've noticed EW turn-in FATEs are a bit weird in that if you don't have *initial* aggro or a monstrously high percentage of the total damage, you won't get drop from that monster. So if you arrive at one and a war has already like pulled everything, your best bet is just to pick seven things up from the ground while everything is distracted.
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It might be that you don't get shared credit for FATE mobs that your party member tagged but you didn't, and also that the formula only shares some unknown percentage of your party members' contribution. FATE and hunt credit is based off enmity, which also means that if you have a tank in your party with their stance on it's much easier to get full credit. I've died to S ranks and FATE bosses after only getting 1 hit in, but then still got full rewards because I was partied with tanks. While for mob FATEs I have only gotten bronze or silver after arriving late, even though my party was there the whole time. Gruckles fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 10, 2022 |
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Funny detail about the Seasonal Event this year: if you do the optional event that occurs afterwards and choose the third option, Byakko shows up in his rabbit costume from 2020. I wonder if all four will recycle those outfits for next year's Heavensturn.
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My newest character commission came in and I am vibrating from joy. They did such a fantastic job with the lighting and the pose! Worth every penny. Artist is https://skeb.jp/@Quitterie
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How easy is skeb to work with? I've been thinking of getting commissions through it but am worried about the language barrier.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Funny detail about the Seasonal Event this year: if you do the optional event that occurs afterwards and choose the third option, Byakko shows up in his rabbit costume from 2020. I wonder if all four will recycle those outfits for next year's Heavensturn. this little easter egg made me very happy, especially as a Tiger myself (1986) ((im old))
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Skeb has a machine translator if you're submitting a request not in Japanese, but in my experience it's a rather good one. Pretty much everything I mentioned and pointed out made it into the finished art, so I trust it. It can be a bit daunting since the initial request is the only communication you have with the artist, but I'm in awe how well it turned out.
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Ziddar posted:My newest character commission came in and I am vibrating from joy. This is really cool! Kerrzhe posted:this little easter egg made me very happy, especially as a Tiger myself (1986) ((im old)) That's not old! It's not old... 
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Thundarr posted:That's not old! i had to disassemble and reassemble my new PC yesterday to put it in a new case and every single muscle and bone hurts i'm sorry but we're old
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what up fellow 1986 olds Also yeah I've similarly thought about using skeb but I'm always maximally  about the language barrier and things going wrong. Positive stories like that help a lot. 
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If you're trying to machine translate something, put it into deepl in English then copy the output and translate it back from Japanese to English. If it comes out the same it's probably ok. If not try to reword it until it does.
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Kyrosiris posted:what up fellow 1986 olds I'll have you know that I'm much older than a 1986er wait poo poo
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As a 1987 goon, I’m curious if they’re going to tie Viera into next years event.
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Leraika posted:How easy is skeb to work with? I've been thinking of getting commissions through it but am worried about the language barrier.
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I've been told that DeepL is a tad more accurate when it comes to English -> Japanese translations, though both it and Google Translate will probably do the job as long as you keep things simple.
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My understanding is that DeepL is better at making things sound natural but sometimes that can actually hide a mistranslation since it doesn't stand out as much.
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Vermain posted:I've been told that DeepL is a tad more accurate when it comes to English -> Japanese translations, though both it and Google Translate will probably do the job as long as you keep things simple. Skeb actually uses DeepL for its translations and really does seem to work well, but Endorph's right that using simple and concise wording will help make sure it comes across accurately. And always have picture references for a commission. A small imgur album with multiple views and clear lighting will help a lot. Also I'm a 1983 goon, so I already got my pig Heavensturn last year.
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ive been enjoying blind progging savage stuff, using pf to supplement my friend group
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Funny detail about the Seasonal Event this year: if you do the optional event that occurs afterwards and choose the third option, Byakko shows up in his rabbit costume from 2020. I wonder if all four will recycle those outfits for next year's Heavensturn. I was disappointed with the clear lack of Al Stewart content for this Year of the Cat.
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Took me all free time on the day but I managed to do the weekly book, Pandemonium and tomestone cap today so I'm not falling behind just yet! Besides messing up and buying a Pan acc that I already got at EX1 trial
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Made a new crafting macro for 100% HQ for specialists, with an eye for people mass grinding out pots/food, as this rotation requires no HQ mats. You need some halfway decent Control melds, but nothing too extravagant. edit: Fiddled with it some more and it can now guarantee 100% HQ with a Tricks line to avoid a Poor Byregot's, so it's foolproof if you meet the minimum stats. Vermain fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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re: bozja, I feel like I should go back there at some point, but... I got there late by only finishing SHB after bozja hit, and so every time I tried to get into a party to do anything (necessary, I am Bad At Game) the party would inevitably break up after five or ten minutes as everyone left for Castrum, or the party would truck out into the later zones where I could not go, and I'd go back to base for another ten or twenty minutes until the next instanced encounter to link up with a party and repeat the process all over again. everyone I tried to explain this to fell all over themselves to explain to me how easy the bozja grind was (most of the time their explanations were predicated on "running castrum," "being in later zones," or "having a party for a few hours," which, see above) I can't remember the last time I went into bozja, and I've been stuck at rep level seven since dinosaurs roamed the earth i also have extreme elixir syndrome about the items, especially since I have no idea which of any of them are worth using, but that's probably to be addressed after the whole "maybe get to level ten" thing
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hexwren posted:re: bozja, I feel like I should go back there at some point, but... Everyone is leveling so it's actually hard to get people to do Castrum, or at least it was a couple weeks ago. Pre EW I used to get frustrated at everything shutting down whenever Castrum came up too.
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Vermain posted:Made a new crafting macro for 100% HQ for specialists, with an eye for people mass grinding out pots/food, as this rotation requires no HQ mats. You need some halfway decent Control melds, but nothing too extravagant. Why not just use this rotation from the community stuff on Balance? It's 3 actions shorter and has lower requirements (3290/3251/556) besides.
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Kyrosiris posted:Why not just use this rotation from the community stuff on Balance? It's 3 actions shorter and has lower requirements (3290/3251/556) besides. Not on Balance, although I figured there was a more efficient one out there somewhere. Thanks for posting it.
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No problem, wasn't sure if you had a fundamental objection to their content (which, frankly, would be fair) or just wasn't there.
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Happy Belated Holidays from the Heavensward LP!
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