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Was it mentioned anywhere before that firestar wasn't a citizen? Did they decide that just now or did I miss something? I pretty much only read xmen related books though for marvel so it could be that or my horrid memory. I voted for her anyway. This one doesn't seem like it's going to be as clear cut as the last. But I'm thinking it will be either syren or armor. 
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Yeah, if the bio says that Firestar hasn't joined Krakoa yet, then the shots of her in the crowd probably aren't canon and just artists drawing people in. So if that is the case, that would be even more of a reason for me to want to see her join up. Maybe Kate and her can share some stories about Emma. Maybe we can see what Vance thinks of Krakoa since that's another well-known mutant from the 90s that we haven't seen in a while. Surge would be my second pick, since I think she got left behind after some other New X-Men kids got used a lot.
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Jan 10, 2022 23:01
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Codependent Poster posted:Maybe we can see what Vance thinks of Krakoa since that's another well-known mutant from the 90s that we haven't seen in a while. Too bad they basically just made Vance into a cop, always on the side of the government. #JusticeForJustice
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Jan 10, 2022 23:08
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I voted for Surge, because she's due for some more prominence. I've been rereading a lot of old comics lately, and it's stunning how many characters are out there who get unceremoniously sidelined after a particular run. You wouldn't think from Kyle & Yost's New Mutants that, 10+ years later, Surge would be the one who gets almost no panel time, but here we are.
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Jan 10, 2022 23:37
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It's wilder than that. Emma sets the barn on fire so that Firestar will believe that her powers are out of control and that she's responsible for killing her own horse. However, Firestar manages to SAVE the horse from the barn, but Emma, not to be outdone, just gives the horse a fatal aneurysm with telepathy. Which she somehow still manages to get Firestar to blame herself for.
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Jan 10, 2022 23:49
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Goddammit, I love comic books.
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Jan 10, 2022 23:52
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Poor horse, thought of Emma and died.
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Jan 10, 2022 23:56
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Are Firestar, Spider-Man, and Iceman still friends? Super friends, one might say?
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Jan 10, 2022 23:56
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How Wonderful! posted:It's wilder than that. Emma sets the barn on fire so that Firestar will believe that her powers are out of control and that she's responsible for killing her own horse. However, Firestar manages to SAVE the horse from the barn, but Emma, not to be outdone, just gives the horse a fatal aneurysm with telepathy. Which she somehow still manages to get Firestar to blame herself for.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:01
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How Wonderful! posted:It's wilder than that. Emma sets the barn on fire so that Firestar will believe that her powers are out of control and that she's responsible for killing her own horse. However, Firestar manages to SAVE the horse from the barn, but Emma, not to be outdone, just gives the horse a fatal aneurysm with telepathy. Which she somehow still manages to get Firestar to blame herself for. Emma Frost from that era is simultaneously completely bathetic, and the hugest queen in the universe.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:32
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You can splice hairs by saying Firestar's powers are microwaved based but at the end of the day is her power any different than Sunfire? Does the team need two fire-based people? Does this mean Sunfire will get offed in the first season rather than the usual first mission?
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Jan 11, 2022 00:48
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:You can splice hairs by saying Firestar's powers are microwaved based but at the end of the day is her power any different than Sunfire? Does the team need two fire-based people? Does this mean Sunfire will get offed in the first season rather than the usual first mission?
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Jan 11, 2022 00:51
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Gologle posted:Are Firestar, Spider-Man, and Iceman still friends? Super friends, one might say? Spidey and Iceman have been pretty chummy off and on since the Silver Age, but the way they introduced Firestar in the mainstream comics means they haven't interacted as much as you might think. She's a lot younger than Spidey in the 616.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:52
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Nessus posted:He could also be like "gently caress all y'all I'm going back to Japan." Isn't he going to
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Jan 11, 2022 01:31
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Sunspot is going to Arrako I think, not Sunfire
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Jan 11, 2022 01:43
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Sunfire was on Arakko in the most recent X-Men and I believe a caption says that he's been spending a lot of time up there, but Sunspot was the only one specifically mentioned in the X-Men: Red teasers afaik.
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Jan 11, 2022 01:47
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Ah ha, that was the wire I crossed.
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Jan 11, 2022 01:48
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Firestar was the only mutant smart enough to mostly avoid the X books for like twenty years.
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Jan 11, 2022 01:50
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Open Marriage Night posted:Firestar was the only mutant smart enough to mostly avoid the X books for like twenty years. This is Moira erasure. (She's okay with it)
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Jan 11, 2022 02:07
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danbanana posted:This is Moira erasure. I'm just imagining how infuriating it must have been for Moira to plot with Charles and Magneto after she faked her death. "Okay, Magneto's dead, but Charles is going to telepathically contact me on Tu--no, never mind, his mind merged with Magneto and Earth's heroes sacrificed themselves to stop him and he lost his telepathy. But hey, Magneto's back now, better ring his Genosha number. Hmm, nobody's picking up. I guess I'll try Charles' this time. Wait. Scott, slow down. Who is Cassandra Nova? Oh, good, Magneto's back. Oh, he's crazy, Oh, he's dead. Oh, that wasn't Magneto after all. Oh, there go their powers. Are you there, Charles? Scott, you're saying he got shot in the head and Red Skull stole his brain? Well as long as I'm on the phone, could you put Magneto on? Wait, Charles is back already? I really need to talk to you two about Kra--you're saying Scott killed him? Good lord. I knew I should have picked somebody less fragile."
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Jan 11, 2022 02:30
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Rochallor posted:I'm just imagining how infuriating it must have been for Moira to plot with Charles and Magneto after she faked her death. "Okay, Magneto's dead, but Charles is going to telepathically contact me on Tu--no, never mind, his mind merged with Magneto and Earth's heroes sacrificed themselves to stop him and he lost his telepathy. But hey, Magneto's back now, better ring his Genosha number. Hmm, nobody's picking up. I guess I'll try Charles' this time. Wait. Scott, slow down. Who is Cassandra Nova? Oh, good, Magneto's back. Oh, he's crazy, Oh, he's dead. Oh, that wasn't Magneto after all. Oh, there go their powers. Are you there, Charles? Scott, you're saying he got shot in the head and Red Skull stole his brain? Well as long as I'm on the phone, could you put Magneto on? Wait, Charles is back already? I really need to talk to you two about Kra--you're saying Scott killed him? Good lord. I knew I should have picked somebody less fragile." I think it's funnier if she already knew all this was gonna happen and didn't tell them about it. Like she's kicking back with popcorn laughing her head off each time Xavier or Magneto die or get cloned or get turned into babies or whatever.
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Jan 11, 2022 02:38
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Gologle posted:Are Firestar, Spider-Man, and Iceman still friends? Super friends, one might say?
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Jan 11, 2022 03:14
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Saoshyant posted:Bad news on that front: she's been around for 15 years and no one's basically wrote anything interesting with her that I recall, much less give her the spotlight for a whole story. I feel like I read an issue of X-Men red and liked it so it will go on the list. Armor gets like nothing interesting written about her but I feel like she's in a lot of books as a Default Krakoan Strike Team Member but maybe I'm conflating 2-3 appearances.
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Jan 11, 2022 03:22
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Gologle posted:Are Firestar, Spider-Man, and Iceman still friends? Super friends, one might say? I think you mean amazing friends. Super friends are those other guys.
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Jan 11, 2022 03:35
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Rick posted:Armor gets like nothing interesting written about her but I feel like she's in a lot of books as a Default Krakoan Strike Team Member but maybe I'm conflating 2-3 appearances. Armor is one of the Six in S.W.O.R.D. to "refine" mysterium from the white hot room. She hasn't been used too much otherwise.
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Jan 11, 2022 03:43
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Open Marriage Night posted:Firestar was the only mutant smart enough to mostly avoid the X books for like twenty years. Yeah, but I read New Warriors so it maybe didn't work out quite that well. That reminds me: Is Marvel Boy a mutant?
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Jan 11, 2022 03:56
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Surge got my vote, seems kind of like the Marrow for this round. Would pick in a fighting game. Does look like Siryn will win it, these matchups are a bit gameFAQs character battle-esque. Put Link in there, at least in an annual.
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Jan 11, 2022 04:55
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, but I read New Warriors so it maybe didn't work out quite that well. Vance Astrovik/Justice? Yes but he's had almost no interaction with other mutants ever of note and when he did it was on the side of the Avengers.
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Jan 11, 2022 05:01
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i dunno why firestar wouldn't at least visit krakoa. it's not like she has much else going on.
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GOD IS BED posted:Armor is one of the Six in S.W.O.R.D. to "refine" mysterium from the white hot room. She hasn't been used too much otherwise. I don't think she's had more than a single appearance in all of SWORD, and I think that writers of those books are the ones to volunteer characters up so hopefully she wins it if Ewing's got nothing for her or Surge, she should get to be in things again.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i dunno why firestar wouldn't at least visit krakoa. it's not like she has much else going on. I feel like the continuing slow boil of the Hickman reboot going on for the third year now has kind of slowly desensitized everyone to the fact this whole Krakoa thing is actually still really g-drat strange and mostly hangs together, on a worldbuilding level, by duct tape, prayers, and sheer cheek. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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Jan 11, 2022 12:53
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BrianWilly posted:an extremist nation based on segregationist ideals but enough about the us
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Jan 11, 2022 13:21
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:but enough about the us I mean it’s more like Israel, if Israel refused to allow non-Jews to visit
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Jan 11, 2022 13:29
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And also Israel had no indigenous people and was an island in the middle of nowhere. So, not a lot like Israel, then.
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Angry Salami posted:And also Israel had no indigenous people and was an island in the middle of nowhere. So, not a lot like Israel, then. It’s homeland for a specific oppressed people made explicitly for the defense in response to genocide, and all you have to do to gain citizenship is be born a member of said specific oppressed people. Seems a lot like Zionism to me
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Jan 11, 2022 16:48
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thetoughestbean posted:I mean it’s more like Israel, if Israel refused to allow non-Jews to visit Krakoa has at least two human citizens.
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Jan 11, 2022 16:53
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sol system is Israel, humans are the Palestinians
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thetoughestbean posted:It’s homeland for a specific oppressed people made explicitly for the defense in response to genocide, and all you have to do to gain citizenship is be born a member of said specific oppressed people. Seems a lot like Zionism to me Again, the lack of a displaced people is a massive and crucial difference between Krakoa and Israel. Of course there's parallels, but it's not a 1:1 comparison. site posted:sol system is Israel, humans are the Palestinians Magneto (?) does actually say this at one point, but the gist of his argument is that even though mutants should rightfully claim all of Earth, they are ceding all of it except for Krakoa to the humans.
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i do like how the humans have been enormous whiny bitch babies about arakko. no one was doing anything with mars, despite the widely available super tech that made traveling there trivial. but then once mutants took over the dead, empty rock no one cared about it suddenly became the rightful property of the american capitalists.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i do like how the humans have been enormous whiny bitch babies about arakko. no one was doing anything with mars, despite the widely available super tech that made traveling there trivial. but then once mutants took over the dead, empty rock no one cared about it suddenly became the rightful property of the american capitalists. I think it also shows their pettiness that they lay claim to Phobos as if they realized that Krakoa had laid claim to only Mars itself. Like, having a much closer eye and base of operations to Arakko came in second after pedantically implying Arakko's moon didn't belong to it
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