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Arguably Alanna got her just desserts too, as she basically bore all of Rand's pain even as she made him more capable of enduring it Though I have no idea why she didn't just release the bond, holding a string to the Dragon seems a raw deal even if it's valuable
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He let his guard down to heal him.
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Jan 10, 2022 18:08
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Going to be interesting to see the whiplash from non-book folks. I saw a lot of "yeah, Alanna is a badass boss!" type reactions throughout the season.
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Jan 10, 2022 18:20
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jng2058 posted:I mean he didn't really trust her so much as just be in the same room as her. He let her touch him to heal him and after delving his injuries she bonded him.
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Jan 10, 2022 18:25
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How are u posted:Going to be interesting to see the whiplash from non-book folks. I saw a lot of "yeah, Alanna is a badass boss!" type reactions throughout the season. That's if they do that storyline.
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Jan 10, 2022 19:19
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I think you gotta keep it in, its so key to a lot of characterisation for the back half of the series
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Jan 10, 2022 20:59
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It'd be weird to introduce her as a named character and then not do any of her stories.
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Jan 10, 2022 21:03
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It was her and Verin showed up in the Two Rivers, right? Having Perrin take point from an Aes Sedai was another of those little beats on his growth as a leader. What I'm saying is don't you dare cut Goldeneyes.
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My friend is reading the books for the first time and he just finished TSR. He liked it but said that parts of it were "long-winded." I just laughed at him
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Jan 10, 2022 21:52
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goethe.cx posted:My friend is reading the books for the first time and he just finished TSR. He liked it but said that parts of it were "long-winded." I just laughed at him Yeah I just hit Crossroads of Twilight in my reread and.....whooo boy has my reading slowed down. I went in with an open mind, I actually thought everything up to this was better than I remembered.
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Jan 10, 2022 22:25
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goethe.cx posted:My friend is reading the books for the first time and he just finished TSR. He liked it but said that parts of it were "long-winded." I just laughed at him I googled and apparently it's one of the longest books in the series, which I was not expecting. But yeah, oof, not a great sign for them finishing things.
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Jan 10, 2022 22:28
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Just started Lord of Chaos and it has a 71 page prologue Feel like I made this same complaint two years ago in this thread
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Ungratek posted:I had forgotten that Lord of Chaos is when the prologues start spiraling out of control Ungratek posted:Path of Daggers was much better than I remembered. Pacing was really good throughout, and everyone’s plot had actual momentum. The lack of Mat didn’t really bother me because nothing the other characters were doing could have been mirrored in his arc. Ungratek posted:Just started Lord of Chaos and it has a 71 page prologue Yes, yes you did.
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Jan 10, 2022 22:36
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah I just hit Crossroads of Twilight in my reread and.....whooo boy has my reading slowed down. CoT is really really DULL. I've been stuck in it for like the past 6-8 months. I'm almost to the point of reading the last chapter and then jumping into KoD just so I can get past it to the snap back to early series pacing/form.
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Jan 10, 2022 23:58
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I skipped CoT and watched a synopsis on YouTube. Would recommend that to anyone, especially since The Gathering Storm is pretty great and has some good pay offs.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:10
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Winter's Heart was a bit slow but at least has a cool ending. CoT takes the cool ending and is like "what if we made it suck poo poo instead"
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Jan 11, 2022 00:17
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The Notorious ZSB posted:CoT is really really DULL. if you are stuck with a bad book you should read a better book
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Jan 11, 2022 00:18
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I mean part of me wants to slog through but there's just something about CoT that makes my eyes roll off the page. And I say this as someone who can read 20 page philosophical discussions by grunt soldiers in Malazan.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:20
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Kudos to Jordan and Sanderson for really making me like Nynaeve by the middle of Towers of Midnight. Aes Sedai are bullshit. gently caress the police.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:30
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Thin red line Thin red line
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Paddyo posted:Kudos to Jordan and Sanderson for really making me like Nynaeve by the middle of Towers of Midnight. Aes Sedai are bullshit. gently caress the police. Daighian 
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Jan 11, 2022 00:38
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I've reread the series at least 5 times and I've never actually fully read COT. No desire to either.
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Barreft posted:I've reread the series at least 5 times and I've never actually fully read COT. No desire to either. Here’s the secret to reading CoT: only read the Mat chapters.
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Jan 11, 2022 02:25
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I seem to remember CoT being heavy on Perrin and Egwene, the least interesting POV characters
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goethe.cx posted:I seem to remember CoT being heavy on Perrin and Egwene, the least interesting POV characters https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/Crossroads_of_Twilight/Statistical_analysis quote:Crossroads of Twilight contains 30 chapters, a prologue, and an epilogue and consists of 22 unique POVs and 45 individual POVs. It has a total word count of 264,665 words. It's almost all Perrin and Elayne besides the other million POVs e: updated, sorted by word count sry 
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Jan 11, 2022 03:10
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I mean Alanna kind of regrets the bonding and everything we can tell from the books she spent the time from then on out in constant state of panic/tortured/pain but she still maintained the bond. You kind of got to wonder if Rand would have been able to do and withstand what he withstood without being a bonded person. Also Alanna gets done pretty dirty in the books because after all of that she's captured tortured and then murdered all to get to Rand. So kind of sucks for her.
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Jan 11, 2022 03:25
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Hollismason posted:I mean Alanna kind of regrets the bonding and everything we can tell from the books she spent the time from then on out in constant state of panic/tortured/pain but she still maintained the bond. You kind of got to wonder if Rand would have been able to do and withstand what he withstood without being a bonded person. Also Alanna gets done pretty dirty in the books because after all of that she's captured tortured and then murdered all to get to Rand. I mean yeah, but her original goal was to bond him and then use the bond to force him to do whatever she felt he should do. It just didn't work because male channelers can't be forced to do stuff unlike people who can't channel IIRC.
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Jan 11, 2022 03:29
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Yeah but once he's bonded by the polycule then Alanna didn't really need to maintain hers for him to get the benefit. At that point she was just doing it for who knows why - pride, I'd guess.
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Nitrousoxide posted:I mean yeah, but her original goal was to bond him and then use the bond to force him to do whatever she felt he should do. It just didn't work because male channelers can't be forced to do stuff unlike people who can't channel IIRC. I feel like it was just...Rand. But it's also just a recollection, I don't have specific memory of ashaman warders having the bond used to compel them.
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cailleask posted:Yeah but once he's bonded by the polycule then Alanna didn't really need to maintain hers for him to get the benefit. At that point she was just doing it for who knows why - pride, I'd guess. Because greens are very especially territorial over their warders. Like, another sister even telling a warder not her own to go do something is a slap in the face to them. Also she was coping with the death of one of her warders, which i'm sure just made that territorialness even worse.
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I can remember "Is Alanna BA for bonding Rand?" theories til AMOL.
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silvergoose posted:I feel like it was just...Rand. But it's also just a recollection, I don't have specific memory of ashaman warders having the bond used to compel them. I think the Ashaman who ended up bonded also couldn't be compelled? But I'm the one who forgot Rand got forcibly bonded so take that with some salt.
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Barreft posted:I can remember "Is Alanna BA for bonding Rand?" theories til AMOL. *bonds Dragon Reborn against his will* *kills self to drive him insane*
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https://twitter.com/ppallo/status/1480570160612364291?s=21
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Pleads posted:*bonds Dragon Reborn against his will* Better plan than anything Gawyn thought of.
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Pleads posted:*bonds Dragon Reborn against his will* e: read wrong
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I think its in the books that Ashaman that are bonded can't be compelled by their Aes Sedai.
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cailleask posted:Yeah but once he's bonded by the polycule then Alanna didn't really need to maintain hers for him to get the benefit. At that point she was just doing it for who knows why - pride, I'd guess. They weren't a polycule.
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Ungratek posted:Just started Lord of Chaos and it has a 71 page prologue I remember the first time I read it I was surprised when I got to the end of the prologue that I was reading the proloque - it was so long I had forgotten! CoT is a bit long winded for sure and without Matt chapters would be a really tough slog, but it wasn't so bad that I skip it when I do re-reads.
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