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ikanreed posted:You joke, but i have never and will never tell a joke. trains trains traints trians tinras trrains tiarn
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that means they need more surplus military equipment
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who will stand up to this murderous COVID-19 gang?
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I'm "firearm related" intentionally not being split out between "getting shot by criminal" and "getting shot by self / other cop"
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Palladium posted:that means they need more surplus military equipment clearly they need to be patrolling in nbc rated vehicles because that's a lot of losses to gas attack
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I loved the subway and streetcars in the year I lived in Toronto. Helsinski has a pitiful metro but when you get the right combination of starting point and destination, it's amazingly convenient. Stockholm has a tunnel banana so it's better.
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The Bloop posted:I'm in no way defending musk or the death tube but the point isn't a train, it's a speed lane for your individual car, which you still want on the other side Wait what It's supposed to be a people mover for getting people from end to end of the convention center (less than a mile in each direction), it doesn't exactly connect to regular vegas traffic or anything https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/1318795706128240640 Musk's dumb rear end originally pitched selling their convention center a fleet of cars for it with the promise that they would be put on/built into "skates" specially designed for tracks in the tunnels, you know, like a tracked people mover like at disney's tomorrowland but also you get to sell teslas to make this light rail kinda "train" He doesn't like trains because he wants to sell cars, which is why all the greenwashing with tesla is so so funny/depressing
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I loved the subway and streetcars in the year I lived in Toronto. Well those days are over now that Metro Toronto amalgamated - the suburbs will keep voting in their mayors to get rid of bike lanes downtown and halt TTC expansion. I remember an interview with a Ford voter where he said his main concern was making it easier to drive and park downtown lol.
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Shame Boy posted:I'm "firearm related" intentionally not being split out between "getting shot by criminal" and "getting shot by self / other cop" I was about to say. Also I thought guns don't kill people? But they kill cops apparently?
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Minecraft Holmes posted:Wait what Jokes on him. Trains are made of cars.
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Minecraft Holmes posted:Wait what Yes, the Vegas one is just that, but it's supposed to be a proof of concept for numerous larger tunnels elsewhere. That's just the only project he could get funded/approved. Yes, you're absolutely right about that one it's very dumb in every way (and so would be the other ones that will never be built)
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I kinda want them to try to build the Miami one just so Musk can "discover" the difference between the Southern California / Nevada desert and literally anywhere else with a water table the same way he "discovered" that you can't make cars entirely with robots that move so fast you can't see them
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Supposedly Musk's company would pay for construction too but I'm sure they'd find a way to make it so actually taxpayers have to pay for it somehow plus the billion dollar retrofit when it floods 5 seconds after the digger is first switched on
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It's funny watching Americans being mystified as they observe actual good public transport from the rest of the world. Why is it so poo poo in America?
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Zzulu posted:It's funny watching Americans being mystified as they observe actual good public transport from the rest of the world. Why is it so poo poo in America? America's real fuckin' spread out compared to a lot of Europe, so the infrastructure's gonna need to deal with that. In the 40's and 50's we had to address this in a big way and were faced with either "more and better trains" or "hey that Hitler guy had some good ideas what with the Autobahn" and chose the second one for military reasons. Then 40 years after that in like the 80's when it started to really become apparent that this was a turbo-bad idea, the reason we couldn't do anything else became "if we fund public transit then those people would use it" which tied in real nicely to all the other white panic Reagan loved to lean on. You either lived in the suburbs and commuted to work in your car or you were a poor, probably ethnic person who couldn't afford a car and was probably up to no good. Now we're 40 years after that and this poo poo is just so loving baked in to everything that it'd require trillions of dollars and a massive shift in the way nearly everyone lives, and if you can't tell we're not exactly great at addressing big problems or change. If I own a car and drive to work every day why would I want to fund anything other than more and better roads for other people to use?? Obviously I'm just going to keep using my car, it's what I know and have always done.
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Like I think I mentioned it but I receive random crazy spam from a few people in my city every time the city council talks about funding light rail or anything besides roads, where they go on and on about how OUT OF TOUCH city hall is because OBVIOUSLY the ONE THING citizens want transportation funding to go to is MORE AND BETTER ROADS!!! How can we POSSIBLY think about funding some DUMB THING NOBODY WOULD USE when I SAW A POTHOLE JUST THE OTHER DAY!!! It's never seen as a service they would actually use, or even a service that would remove other drivers from the road and thus make their own stupid car commute faster and better, it's always just a waste of money and hosed-up priorities because the roads have problems and we should focus all our effort onto fixing those problems before even thinking about "luxuries" like light rail.
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Public transit in America being so bad is part racism, part legit problem because America BIG, and part capitalism where gas engine car manufacturers strong-armed a lot of already existing public transit into the dirt before it could really flourish and set an example It does suck and could be massively improved but redesigning the whole nation to be car-free at this point is probably magic wand level thinking
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Shame Boy posted:Like I think I mentioned it but I receive random crazy spam from a few people in my city every time the city council talks about funding light rail or anything besides roads, where they go on and on about how OUT OF TOUCH city hall is because OBVIOUSLY the ONE THING citizens want transportation funding to go to is MORE AND BETTER ROADS!!! How can we POSSIBLY think about funding some DUMB THING NOBODY WOULD USE when I SAW A POTHOLE JUST THE OTHER DAY!!! To add another layer on top of this: this intense navel gazing is actively rewarded by literally every aspect of our culture & political system because it makes people more pliant consumers The problems that can't be ignored, pushed back to be the next administrations problem, shot, or shouted down at a city council meeting (ex. COVID) have an added bonus of making everyone slowly even more insane
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I think some of you will like this from the failing new york times thread double negative posted:all my APs gone
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Zzulu posted:It's funny watching Americans being mystified as they observe actual good public transport from the rest of the world. Why is it so poo poo in America? Our so called great and good are to a man balls deep in minors OP
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Oooh, that's a fun idea.
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Shame Boy posted:I kinda want them to try to build the Miami one just so Musk can "discover" the difference between the Southern California / Nevada desert and literally anywhere else with a water table the same way he "discovered" that you can't make cars entirely with robots that move so fast you can't see them Well he did discover how to make robot cars move so fast that little kids can't see them (and vice versa)
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Shame Boy posted:Like I think I mentioned it but I receive random crazy spam from a few people in my city every time the city council talks about funding light rail or anything besides roads, where they go on and on about how OUT OF TOUCH city hall is because OBVIOUSLY the ONE THING citizens want transportation funding to go to is MORE AND BETTER ROADS!!! How can we POSSIBLY think about funding some DUMB THING NOBODY WOULD USE when I SAW A POTHOLE JUST THE OTHER DAY!!! I mean, a major topic in the local elections last year in my Copenhagen suburb was if we should have a light rail on the main road to the city. There was a lot of disapproval of the idea, not least because it would destroy the local shops somehow, in addition to the car spaces. For some reason, our conservative party was the only one pushing for a metro solution. The point being that we have car culture too. The difference is of course that I can get anywhere I need by public transport and/or bike.
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When I tell people that I didn’t get my license until I was 22 they are mystified followed by disgusted when I tell them that the bus was so convenient I would just look around for a sign and wait a few minutes before getting on it to get where I needed to go.
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Professor Shark posted:When I tell people that I didn’t get my license until I was 22 they are mystified followed by disgusted when I tell them that the bus was so convenient I would just look around for a sign and wait a few minutes before getting on it to get where I needed to go. We killed this planet for cars, now drive or else the planet died for nothing
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I would simply inform the companys of tesla, ford, and chevy that they now make seats for trains, and cabins for trains, and engines for trains, and then hand them designs for the trains approved by the train experts, and hand them money for changing the factories to make train things. And if any of them pushed back, id have the fbi tie them to a train track and run them over with a drone train
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I'm 32 and never had a license because I've never been able to afford a car, I still get boomers telling me I should just get something cheap and I can't explain to them enough no I can not afford a car. I'm not paying for insurance and a car loan when a monthly bus pass gets me to work. My two favourite responses are "well you should get your license anyway" cool what would I practice driving with, dipshit, and "well what would you do if there was an emergency and you had to go to the hospital" call an ambulance?!
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I would simply inform the companys of tesla, ford, and chevy that they now make seats for trains, and cabins for trains, and engines for trains, and then hand them designs for the trains approved by the train experts, and hand them money for changing the factories to make train things. This is a version of the trolley problem I haven't seen before.
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public transit is bad in the US because so many towns and cities were laid out specifically for the car, such that even walking to public transit becomes an insane idea. for instance, I live in London. the streets are fairly narrow and everything is really compact. I can walk to several train and bus stops within like 10 minutes. I went home to my parents in South Carolina. it’s like a half hour walk to get out of their neighborhood to where there is allegedly a bus stop (I only even knew the bus stop existed because Apple Maps showed it when I went to get directions and it defaulted to public transit). short of bulldozing the suburbs, I’m not sure how you fix that (not opposed personally, but I’d assume the suburban dwellers would be). youll further notice most of the American cities with good public transit tend to have been laid out before the car (New York City, Chicago, Boston etc). maybe a civil war would be a good idea?
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The thing is that back in the 40s america DID have a decent public transit infrastructure in most of its cities. The nation being physically large was not a huge problem. The reason "america too big" is a problem now is because we have 80 years of horrendous car reliant sprawl making it completely impossible to provide any solution to the problem of transit in most places. To accomplish anything resembling good transit infrastructure and city planning in the US anymore one would have to completely rebuild urban centers from the ground up and probably demolish vast amounts of unsustainable, unservicable sprawl to replace it with poo poo that actually works and is sane. So long as the car dependant infrastructure and suburban sprawl remains in the equation there will not be a viable solution. Our poo poo is simply beyond salvaging. And of course most of the population has never seen or experienced any different. A lot of Americans simply cannot comprehend the idea of not relying on a car for every single thing they do, and don't want to either. Edit: to clarify I am in full support of totally demolishing the vast majority of American "cities" and rebuilding them into smaller, compact, sensible urban centers with rail and bike friendly suburbs that aren't stupid and gigantic. It will never happen, but it's nice to dream. The Skeleton King has issued a correction as of 19:42 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I would simply inform the companys of tesla, ford, and chevy that they now make seats for trains, and cabins for trains, and engines for trains, and then hand them designs for the trains approved by the train experts, and hand them money for changing the factories to make train things. Keep Tesla away from building any real vehicles.
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The Skeleton King posted:To accomplish anything resembling good transit infrastructure and city planning in the US anymore one would have to completely rebuild urban centers from the ground up and probably demolish vast amounts of unsustainable, unservicable sprawl to replace it with poo poo that actually works and is sane. So long as the car dependant infrastructure and suburban sprawl remains in the equation there will not be a viable solution. Our poo poo is simply beyond salvaging. Sometimes the homeless sleep on the rainbows, and this makes the city planner very angry.
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I do think learning to drive is a valuable skill even if you don't think you'll need it, much like learning to swim, but I can understand why people who live in big cities don't do either one, and It's basically the same reason most Americans don't learn a second language, it seems like a lot of effort for no obvious application.
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Half the country speaks spanish I think the application is right there.
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The Skeleton King posted:To accomplish anything resembling good transit infrastructure and city planning in the US anymore one would have to completely rebuild urban centers from the ground up and probably demolish vast amounts of unsustainable, unservicable sprawl to replace it with poo poo that actually works and is sane. We weren't shy about demolishing stuff to get our current infrastructure. And by "stuff" I mean "black neighborhoods". Scroll halfway down for an interesting before and after example.
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actual spanish fluency and use is going steadily down in ethnic hispanic populations in usa so you just gotta wait
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