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Cool Dad
Jun 15, 2007

It is always Friday night, motherfuckers

Absurd Alhazred posted:

There's nothing in the story to suggest that they tried seeing how a household involving a someone keeping kosher and others who aren't was going to work before getting married. It's written as if they first got married, then started living together, then they started trying to keep dishes separate and she was exasperated by how her kids were treating it.

"When my husband and stepdaughter first moved in, we banned pork and shrimp (and other forbidden foods) from the home. My ex raised a huge stink about this." Why did this only come up after they got married?

I think you're misreading this. the EX raised a stink, not anybody in the current home. The Ex is just a tremendous rear end in a top hat about everything.

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mlnhd
Jun 4, 2002

If the kid likes dad's house better, won't he just keep "accidentally" contaminating dishes now that he has to live with mom full time? This time out of spite rather than a bribe.

I guess it won't last long, since the kid can move back in with dad when he's 18, if he lets him.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Cool Dad posted:

I think you're misreading this. the EX raised a stink, not anybody in the current home. The Ex is just a tremendous rear end in a top hat about everything.

Again, if this had come up earlier, before they got married, or before they moved in together, or whatever, he would have raised a stink and gotten the kid to raise a stink earlier, and maybe this guy and his daughter could have maybe assessed if they want to get into this sickbed. But instead they up and got married/moved in together only to then impose these restrictions. It just suggests to me that OP and her new husband have very bad judgment.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Fine, how did the "we're going to be banning pork and shrimp" conversation not come way before the moving in part, then?

We've had plenty blended family stories here where the parents' solution is to smush all the kids together and call it a day. Maybe I'm just desensitized at this point v:shobon:v

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

I prolly wouldn't care what my abusive ex thought about moving in with my new partner or their food rules before I moved in with my new partner either

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

hawowanlawow posted:

I prolly wouldn't care what my abusive ex thought about moving in with my new partner or their food rules before I moved in with my new partner either

I would discuss in advance with my children that my soon to be husband/live-in boyfriend's daughter has dietary restrictions that would affect how the house is managed, and would then talk to this soo to be husband/live-in boyfriend about the results. She doesn't seem to have done so.

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81


My guess would be they probably were aware of the restrictions and just didn't start causing problems until it started affecting them and they whined to the dad about it.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I would discuss in advance with my children that my soon to be husband/live-in boyfriend's daughter has dietary restrictions that would affect how the house is managed, and would then talk to this soo to be husband/live-in boyfriend about the results. She doesn't seem to have done so.

separate plates and utensils just isn't a big enough deal. I don't think it's reasonable to think either party would reconsider over that, or over the ex's reaction to it

basically it's nothing. she gave her ex six inches of rope and he managed to hang himself with it. you couldn't write a better outcome

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

hawowanlawow posted:

separate plates and utensils just isn't a big enough deal. I don't think it's reasonable to think either party would reconsider over that, or over the ex's reaction to it

basically it's nothing. she gave her ex six inches of rope and he managed to hang himself with it. you couldn't write a better outcome

Do you just not have any experience with keeping kosher? I've dated someone who kept kosher as did her family, and it is a big deal, and we did make sure to discuss it, both before I visited her, so I wouldn't mess up their kitchen or utensils, and before she visited my family, so she could comfortable eat with us (we would just use disposable plates). And that was with both our families being Jewish. It's a thing of note between Jews, it gets mentioned in apartment listing when someone who keeps kosher is looking for flatmates, etc. I'm flabbergasted that a mixed heritage couple wouldn't lock this down extremely tightly before moving in together.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
ESH on that one, aside from the kids. Dad was using them to hurt their mom. Mom brought them from one toxic household to a new one and is now using them to hurt their dad.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Do you just not have any experience with keeping kosher? I've dated someone who kept kosher as did her family, and it is a big deal, and we did make sure to discuss it, both before I visited her, so I wouldn't mess up their kitchen or utensils, and before she visited my family, so she could comfortable eat with us (we would just use disposable plates). And that was with both our families being Jewish. It's a thing of note between Jews, it gets mentioned in apartment listing when someone who keeps kosher is looking for flatmates, etc. I'm flabbergasted that a mixed heritage couple wouldn't lock this down extremely tightly before moving in together.

lidnsya posted:

ESH on that one, aside from the kids. Dad was using them to hurt their mom. Mom brought them from one toxic household to a new one and is now using them to hurt their dad.

yeah religious people are pretty toxic I guess

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
If my mom told me that since her new husband’s daughter was a religious nut I had to change my diet, and I was already a pissed off 17 year old who probably still had issues from my parents’ divorce, I would probably do everything in my power to gently caress with them also.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

therobit posted:

If my mom told me that since her new husband’s daughter was a religious nut I had to change my diet, and I was already a pissed off 17 year old who probably still had issues from my parents’ divorce, I would probably do everything in my power to gently caress with them also.

just don't get it in writing from your dad that you're gonna do it when he has custody stipulations lmao

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat
how is she taking custody of a 17-year-old kid who hates her, anyway? i thought they let the kids decide when they're that old

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.
they should all just go Vegan. No meat or milk to mess with.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

therobit posted:

If my mom told me that since her new husband’s daughter was a religious nut I had to change my diet, and I was already a pissed off 17 year old who probably still had issues from my parents’ divorce, I would probably do everything in my power to gently caress with them also.

Keeping kosher isn't being "a religious nut".

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
You can really tell who in this thread has never met a Jewish person from the vitriol used to describe something as anodyne as keeping kosher.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Foo Diddley posted:

how is she taking custody of a 17-year-old kid who hates her, anyway? i thought they let the kids decide when they're that old

Dad is a piece of poo poo who doesn’t want to raise his kids?

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

DoctorWhat posted:

You can really tell who in this thread has never met a Jewish person from the vitriol used to describe something as anodyne as keeping kosher.

I didn't think it was a big deal, but now we have an expert saying it is a big deal, but not enough of a big deal to call it nuts, but also a big enough deal to consider it a potential deal breaker from moving in together. So who the gently caress knows

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

hawowanlawow posted:

I didn't think it was a big deal, but now we have an expert saying it is a big deal, but not enough of a big deal to call it nuts, but also a big enough deal to consider it a potential deal breaker from moving in together. So who the gently caress knows

It's a big deal to some Jews, particularly religious ones, who are not nuts for having restrictive traditions. I'm sorry you're an ignorant gentile. You could easily fix it, though!

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

so pretty standard religious poo poo really

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

DoctorWhat posted:

You can really tell who in this thread has never met a Jewish person from the vitriol used to describe something as anodyne as keeping kosher.

Really I'd be more worried if I was 17 and my mum married a Jewish guy and told me that meant I had to get circumcised.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


pull up, thread

AITA for bringing my wife in family gatherings?

quote:

My family used to like my wife when we first started dating but they started antagonising her once I proposed. All of my siblings and my mother are very insulting towards her. My dad doesn't care and stays neutral on the matter.

My mom had made my wife cry on the day of our wedding because she called her the morning of that she should watch out and never hurt me because I'm her baby boy and she won't let any female hurt me. She also told my wife that she must be happy she's taking me away. I told my mom off for her behavior and told her that I won't accept that anymore and if she repeats it I'll go nc. Which I obviously shouldn't say because going nc with family is harder than it sounds. My mom apologised to my wife after the wedding and said she'd try to make it up. I saw my mom genuinely trying but my wife wasn't interested in making up with my mom completely and simply said she'd have a typical relationship to my family out of respect for me and the fact they're my parents and siblings.

Few months after whenever I made plans with my wife my mom, my two brothers and my sister would always complain to me about said plans and tried to get me to cancel them. Those plans would include trying to have a baby, young on vacation, getting a pet and so on. Never heard any of that of course and made my own choices with my wide. My siblings have told me that they start despising my wife and how she has a negative impact from me because she stole me from my family. I texted my siblings in the group chat we have that I want to be left alone and that resulted in my sister and one brother calling me and cursing me out for making mom sad for my wife. My wife heard all of that. She said she doesn't feel comfortable around my family anymore and she wanted to skip all Xmas plans we had with them. I told her we can't do that and that they're my family after all. She finally gave in and came to all our Xmas plans. After every family gathering my wife would be either mad or in tears because of how my siblings and mom would either ignore her or speak to her in a passive aggressive way.

After the new years eve party we had with my family we went home and she broke down in tears saying she can't keep doing this anymore and that its my fault for forcing her to come around these people when they treat her like that. This past week we've not talked much because my wife has been going through it but I'm thinking and wondering if I'm really TA here for insisting she spends time with my family?

quote:

I know my family is toxic but that's who they are I can't change them. And I can't really abandon them either, they're my family. I know where my wife is coming from and I'm willing to help her deal with it without compromising my relationship and contact I have with my family either. I need a middle ground

Mx. fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Jan 12, 2022

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

DoctorWhat posted:

You can really tell who in this thread has never met a Jewish person from the vitriol used to describe something as anodyne as keeping kosher.

You can definitely tell however who is still a carefully preserved 2005 era South Park style internet atheist.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Grape posted:

You can definitely tell however who is still a carefully preserved 2005 era South Park style internet atheist.

:decorum:

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Keeping kosher isn't being "a religious nut".

“I don’t eat these things and neither can you and don’t mix up the dishes in your own house where you have been living previously,” sounds like a religious nut to me. If you want to keep dietary restrictions for yourself that’s one thing. Telling people who don’t have a choice whether to be in a household with you what they can do is another.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Not a goddamn thing to do with that you confused fossil.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
I’m about to conk out and all of my cats have as well (from the sounds of it), so any probes are Dredd style

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
The only Jews I know who actually keep kosher are orthodox from Lakewood or Brooklyn. Most of them are pretty nuts.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
It's not that much to loving ask for. It's not some byzantine impossible requirement. It's just using certain plates for certain things. And there's some real skating around anti-Semitism going on here.

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

Mx. posted:

pull up, thread

AITA for bringing my wife in family gatherings?

The fact that this guy thinks there can be a middle ground to this (maybe they only insult his wife on some holidays!?) makes me wonder if there is a buried lede here like being written out of a will if he goes nc , sometimes people are poo poo at explaining their own motivations if this thread is any indication

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

teen witch posted:

I have five adorable judges, so don’t you worry.

I'm of two minds as to whether I ask if you really need five cats, teen witch, but I figure it's overly familiar.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
I ain't give a poo poo that they're Jewish, forcing other people to partake in your dietary restrictions when they don't want to makes you the rear end in a top hat.

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

Mx. posted:

pull up, thread

AITA for bringing my wife in family gatherings?

I need a middle ground

Keep chasing that dragon, I'm sure you'll catch it THIS time.

Edit: The siren sound every reasonable person hears before they dash their boat upon some rocks.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
They can eat whatever they want outside of the household. They can go out and get a pepperoni pizza or gorge themselves on shrimp. But contaminating (in a religious sense) shared dishware isn't permitted and that's a totally reasonable house rule.

pyrofreak421
Nov 25, 2010
There was color coded dishes and utensils, the food restrictions didn't happen until they kept grabbing the wrong stuff. The Mom felt like she was being undermined and went the direct route to prevent any further confusion.

If the kids didn't want that to happen they had a clear path to prevent it

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

pyrofreak421 posted:

There was color coded dishes and utensils, the food restrictions didn't happen until they kept grabbing the wrong stuff. The Mom felt like she was being undermined and went the direct route to prevent any further confusion.

If the kids didn't want that to happen they had a clear path to prevent it

also turns out one of them actually was trying to gently caress it up on purpose

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Malachite_Dragon posted:

I ain't give a poo poo that they're Jewish, forcing other people to partake in your dietary restrictions when they don't want to makes you the rear end in a top hat.

Keeping kosher also means keeping your kitchen kosher, so unless they get like a second kitchen you're basically just saying they either give up on it or gently caress off.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


AITA for bringing a vegan cake to a party?

quote:

I(26F) opened up a vegan cafe and bakery. I have a few friends that help with running the cafe. I help with the kitchen and the baking. My closest friend" Layla" was my very first customer and she decided that she wanted to eat vegan. Her boyfriend and I used to be really good friends, but once she started eating vegan, he put all the blame on me. He will make snide comments about vegan food and has even left the cafe a terrible review.

Layla's birthday was last week and she invited our entire friend's group. Her favorite desert is Oreo Cheesecake. I made a large, vegan Oreo Cheesecake along with an vegan appetizer. Her boyfriend had cooked most of the meal and when he tried the desert, he looked like he was about to puke. He looks at me and says Eww, this is absolutely disgusting. I can't believe that you would bring a vegan desert to the party when most of the guests aren't vegan. I apologized and quickly wrapped up my desert and left.

A mutual friend told me that Layla and boyfriend got into a huge fight and she's thinking about breaking up with him. I have received a few horrible messages from the boyfriend and I have since blocked him. A few friends think that I should have brought a non-vegan cake along with the cheesecake.

AITA for bringing a vegan cake to a party?

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Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.
They just have to stick to it in the house though, the kid can go eat popcorn shrimp and McRibs all he wants he just can't do it in the house. They're teenagers living with their parents anyways, sometimes your parents set rules and you think they're bullshit, but that's how it goes. All in all this doesn't seem like it's asking too much.

Plus the kid's probably just being a little poo poo about it because sometimes teenagers are little shits. There's nothing in the story indicating he's some budding culinarian who's been itching to sous vide some Berkshire hog and now that's been taken away from him.

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