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fenix down posted:If any of you guys need/want to run dungeons I've got a lvl 130 minstrel and am typically on every day. (Fitzgig on Landroval) Would you be willing to drop down to Sarnur sometime and help me finish the quests I can't solo?
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Pillow Armadillo posted:Would you be willing to drop down to Sarnur sometime and help me finish the quests I can't solo?
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Dec 28, 2021 20:42
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How is the Brawler class? Never played this before, but honestly a punchy class that's NOT an Eastern monk in an mmo seems pretty cool tbh
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Dec 29, 2021 01:43
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I played this game a couple days ago for the first time and already like it way better than FFXIV because I’m a broke-brained contrarian. That and they totally ruined Summoner. I missed the free quest pack and cheap expansions so gently caress me I guess. I’m playing a Loremaster on Treebeard because the class looked DoT-oriented and needlessly difficult and I can set the landscape difficulty so it’s less completely trivial. However, now I’m seeing that Runekeeper is way more DoT-oriented and also considered absolutely loving awful, which is sorta my MO (I raided on a Necromancer for 18 EQ expansions despite my guild really not being pleased with my class choice for someone who showed up 95% of the time). So anyway exactly how putrid is Runekeeper? Literally unplayable? Slated for buffs? Bad enough to be denied a DPS spot in a raid?
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Dec 29, 2021 02:34
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TulliusCicero posted:How is the Brawler class? Never played this before, but honestly a punchy class that's NOT an Eastern monk in an mmo seems pretty cool tbh boho posted:I played this game a couple days ago for the first time and already like it way better than FFXIV because I’m a broke-brained contrarian. That and they totally ruined Summoner. I missed the free quest pack and cheap expansions so gently caress me I guess.
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Dec 29, 2021 03:19
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fenix down posted:RK is fine. They aren't the best at DPS or healing, but can hold their own just fine on either front for most (if not all) content. Treebeard is pretty low pop so if people are planning raids then they probably won't have the luxury of being picky. Right now it’s at about ~200 average across the day, give or take. I’m interested in seeing how it does after Moria launches since the last week of an expansion was always the deadest period of time on the EQ TLP servers.
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Dec 29, 2021 04:03
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The lag is bad and makes me sad. The connection status shows my ping as 35ms so it's not me. The server just can't keep up. I wonder what's happened to make it get this much worse. It's usually fine, but then it'll be really bad for like a minute or two. And war horses are even worse - I've clipped under the world multiple times now. It always eventually snaps me back somewhere reasonable at least. And the minor stutter/hitch after lots of actions still happens. But that's been there since I started playing after The Hobbit movie, guess it's too much work to fix. Pretty sure the UI is locked while it gets a response from the server on those actions which is just a bonehead decision one dev made forever ago, that they all probably hate. Still love touring middle Earth, but it's the death by a thousand cuts stuff that always makes me take a break after a couple of months. Just get tired of janky experiences.
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Dec 29, 2021 18:33
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xZAOx posted:The lag is bad and makes me sad. The connection status shows my ping as 35ms so it's not me. The server just can't keep up. I wonder what's happened to make it get this much worse. Are you using the 64 bit client? Haven't played through the Mounted Combat areas since that was released but my understanding is that should have fixed a lot of the hitching that the 32 bit client had, you can change it in the launcher options.
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Dec 29, 2021 19:52
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Yeah, 64 bit client. And this is in more modern content currently, but again, it's always been this way.
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I'm also on the 64-bit client and the game was freezing and lagging really bad in the Archet region when I was trying out different classes.
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Dec 30, 2021 04:25
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Was this on Landroval in the late afternoon to evening in the US? I've noticed some lag during those times, but it falls off outside of primetime. Of course, "just play at a time that is probably less convenient for you" isn't a particularly helpful response and is treating the symptoms rather than the disease.
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Hello Sailor posted:Was this on Landroval in the late afternoon to evening in the US? I've noticed some lag during those times, but it falls off outside of primetime. Might have been. That was a week ago. I finished up in Combe and made it down to Staddle today and a few hours ago and things were smooth.
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Dec 30, 2021 09:23
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I've had Minas Tirith crash to desktop somewhat often and lag quite a bit(I'm in the Wastes now, mercifully!). I had to turn the graphics quality down while in the city and that helped.
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I have this week off - so I've been playing anytime between around 9:30 to midnight central, and the server lag has been a thing at various times in the day. I remember back when Minas Tirith was new, yeah, the hitching was definitely worse. I don't get hitching when riding around anymore. Just the war horses rubberbanding, combined with server lag, can get really painful and drop me under the world at times. The hitching I'm talking about it, is the UI locks while performing certain actions, almost certainly because the UI rendering thread is blocked waiting on the server's response. Usually this is stuff like doing the task board things, mainly turning in any quests. There's other things that do it too, I just can't remember off the top of my head.
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Dec 30, 2021 16:39
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My guess is holiday time off + new expansion = higher player counts than normal and the servers are smoldering a bit. Hell, throw FFIV's server issues in to the pile too, I've seen a surprising number of people talking about how they're hitting LOTRO while FFIV is unplayable. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some significant cross over between people who play the two games, given that they're both story heavy fantasy MMOs. It's an older game and chances are they don't have a ton of flex in their server allotment and don't want to sign up for more capacity because they know it will return to the mean by Feb. Hell, throw onto that general hosting issues. I don't know who they're buying their space from, but AWS has had a few issues in the last couple of weeks.
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bagrada posted:Edit: Wrong thread whoops. There's a hidden deed for doing that quest ten times.
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Hello Sailor posted:There's a hidden deed for doing that quest ten times. Not surprised... I got the stairs and fishing hidden deeds but don't think I'll be going for that one anytime soon. I liked the end of the epic quest here, wasn't sure where they were going with it despite accidentally triggering the next book early. Fun when you get a npc standing ten feet away from himself in town. On to Dunland. Level 73 so I might have to put the turtle stone back on again.
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Dunland is the only region I ended up liking even less than Rohan. I wonder which genius developer came up with the idea of giving 9 out of 10 mobs a stun attack.
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Moria has a poop quest, that ends with a piece of poop that's a piece of gear. It's still in my bank, heh
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Comrade Koba posted:Dunland is the only region I ended up liking even less than Rohan. At least Dunland spews out pretty dang decent cosmetic skins via quest gear. I've forced myself through it several times just to collect the dang armor. And also so I could skip a chunk of Rohan. LOTRO conspiracy theory: Rohan exists to sell valar boosts. Remember buy any Yule/Curator stuff in the next 24 hours, fellow adventurers.
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Well, this is just some bullshit https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=8118189#post8118189 quote:Embers continue to be our cap level currency used to barter for cap level gear. Unless they radically expand in-game sources for Embers, this basically makes endgame gear Pay2Win.
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Jan 12, 2022 17:12
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Holy poo poo. Yeah, am I missing something? The ONLY way to get cap gear, is to get a lootbox, pay on the store to get keys, open it, the DE it to embers? I mean, I assume you can still loot gear upgrades from bosses directly at least? But still, making the barter / token system P2W only is trash. On the one hand, I haven't bothered with endgame systems in LOTRO because I've felt they were kind of trash anyways. I just enjoy landscape stuff and easy group content in this game. But even just being labeled P2W is kind of a death blow to old MMOs that are already not very popular. I've noticed in this round of playing that lootboxes drop *constantly*. Just flooded with them. To the point that I finally just filtered them out. I remember I used to find keys every now and again, and haven't seen any - but maybe those were only from group content, which I've done none of lately. LOTRO has been on the "sus" side of P2W for a while (mithril to teleport to quest things, buy store stuff to level up LIs, all the essence related stuff on the store), but this is a pretty garbage change. Just a bad look, ya know. Especially for a game that constantly has server lag as it is, even with no other people around.
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Lum_ posted:Well, this is just some bullshit
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TBH, a lot of what they're talking about here, they make it sound like they're cracking some major design problem. This is how WoW handled various token currencies for years. Tokens are bad luck protection, and when the next tier of content comes out, the top end becomes the lower tier. This isn't new at all. Really the problem here is that crap you buy from the store (basically) is used to give top end gear. And the figments change just seems like a "gently caress you" to cosmetic collectors. Glad that's not me! https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?692005-Changes-to-Motes-Ember-Figments/page11&p=8118755#post8118755 quote:Alright, gonna go ahead and see if I can provide some answers and context on stuff here. I was the big driver of this change, so any frustrations or questions can be (politely) directed at me and I'll do my best to address it. Any successes are the team's. I don't ever really remember to look at my Private Messages, so I encourage you to keep responding to this thread, and I'll continue to read and respond as I'm able.
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xZAOx posted:Holy poo poo. Yeah, am I missing something? The ONLY way to get cap gear, is to get a lootbox, pay on the store to get keys, open it, the DE it to embers? There are a limited number of dailies that reward embers but yeah, the vast majority of embers used to come from disenchanting lower level gear. It's a huge deflation in the amount of non-p2w embers in the system unless rewards for dailies go WAY up they won't "We'll have more ways to earn embers when the change goes live" (stares at the non-functional legendary item interface) fenix down posted:Was anyone even asking for this? I'd hate for the game to go belly up, but ignoring the community in perpetuity and hitching your wagon to this kinda stuff is a potent combo. yeah, this is game-killing. On the other hand, server lag should no longer be an issue! Lum_ fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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Jan 12, 2022 23:27
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I doubt it's game killing, if only because I've seen so many f2p mmos do dumb poo poo and keep trucking for years. Not to say it's not going to piss a bunch of people off, but I've weathered way too many "this is the end, they're going ot have to shut down" tempest in various teacups in others mmos.
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xZAOx posted:TBH, a lot of what they're talking about here, they make it sound like they're cracking some major design problem. This is how WoW handled various token currencies for years. *or also lootboxes
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The cash shop was the true endgame all along.
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Weeklies will still give embers. So it seems to me this is just about getting a better handle on the pace that people can upgrade their gear using embers, and making sure that it doesn't differ that much between raiders and solo players. In principle this is a perfectly reasonable thing for an MMO to do. The analogous thing in FFXIV is limiting you to getting 450 capped tombstones a week. It would have been more elegant to do a weekly ember cap but presumably they decided that was too hard to implement. That being said, gearing in this game has been a flaming trash fire arguably since they introduced essences and certainly since they devalued main stat in favor of secondary stats (because it means that unlike in FFXIV straight ilvl increases aren't near-automatic upgrades). At this point I definitely only play the game for the world design and story.
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I told my friend the only real reason to play this is to gently caress around in Middle Earth, and that's only been reinforced with these changes
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I 100% guarantee this change was driven by someone looking at how few people bought lootbox keys
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Lum_ posted:I 100% guarantee this change was driven by someone looking at how few people bought lootbox keys Hah! I dunno man, when I was listing lootboxes for sale, they usually sold pretty steadily (just only for trivial amounts like 40s). jalapeno_dude posted:That being said, gearing in this game has been a flaming trash fire arguably since they introduced essences Hard agree. That's when I started not caring about gear progression in this game. Essences were work to get, and the 'best' way to keep them when upgrading was store crap. Looks like removals can be bought with marks and stuff now though, but not sure if that was always the case. This does really feel like tossing the baby out with the bathwater, though. Someone got their feelings hurt and took their ball and went home. It needed a few tweaks and I think it would have been fine.
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xZAOx posted:This does really feel like tossing the baby out with the bathwater, though. Someone got their feelings hurt and took their ball and went home. It needed a few tweaks and I think it would have been fine. A rejection of P2W is a rejection of America. Those who provided negative feedback will have their accounts closed for suspicion of treason.
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Hello Sailor posted:A rejection of P2W is a rejection of America. Those who provided negative feedback will have their accounts closed for suspicion of treason. 
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I’m afraid I’ve burned out on Treebeard. Progress is glacial, the quest text isn’t worth reading, and the UI can’t handle rapid-fire “turn brain off, grab all quests, do all quests, repeat” of WoW. There also just… doesn’t seem to be all that much to look forward to with the classes I’ve played. Captain and Loremaster seem to have most of their damaging abilities by level 10, and I can’t imagine spending the next 50 levels running back and forth between Hobbits who vomit text while occasionally stopping to collect eight bear asses with the same skills I was using at 10. I’m on the ropes with this one, which is lovely because the first impression was so good that I put money into it.
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Have you gotten past the starter zones? Because I though it really picked up on the back half of book 1. Book 2 (moria) is really good too. The ballad of Bingo Boffin is also legit really entertaining and one of the better long form side quest chains I can remember in any game, mmo or not. I also feel zero compunction about skipping bad quests. If a zone is full of people who want bear asses I just sail on by and stick to the main quests.
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