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Styles Bitchley posted:This is such a tired take. Yeah man, you're entitled to your opinion but I just can't agree with this. It was blatant how much his body took a beating during his time. Calvin Johnson put Calvin Johnson in the hall of fame (with help of Matt Stafford throwing to him 90% of the time which contributed to the aforementioned beating) He would've been a monster on a competitive team.
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Jan 13, 2022 14:17
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This is like the dumbest take. I wanna dunk on it, but I worry that this is some kind of  , because truly someone isn't THIS stupid. Truly
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Jan 13, 2022 14:21
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Guze posted:His dad brought Favre, Holmgren and Reggie White to Green Bay. Sure but Eliot worked for the Packers for like 15 years, starting after when his dad retired. He just missed out getting the Packers GM position but Gute got it instead.
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Jan 13, 2022 15:02
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Won't somebody think of the poor downtrodden owners being bullied by the mean players 
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Jan 13, 2022 15:14
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Guze posted:His dad brought Favre, Holmgren and Reggie White to Green Bay. Oh god, this is how we got Stan Bowman! 
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Jan 13, 2022 15:25
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https://twitter.com/davebirkett/status/1481632054630572034 well, maybe someday.
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Jan 13, 2022 15:36
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Give them man a few dealerships or "invest" in his pot business. Just pay him back already jesus.
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Jan 13, 2022 15:58
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If the Lions didn’t want to pay the rest of Calvin Johnson’s contract, they could have traded him or cut him, which is what I think he wanted in the first place. They didn’t want him playing for another team, and they took his leverage (which was legally their right to do, so not really great leverage). Stafford’s the first star player they let go. Barry and Calvin were basically forced to retire or keep playing for the Lions. Gee, I wonder what the difference is between Stafford versus Barry and Calvin?  OH MY GOD CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS REAL!!!
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Jan 13, 2022 16:01
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Obviously, things are not so rancorous that Calvin and Lions ownership can't patch things up. Sheila seems open to patching things up, he isn't barred from the facilities, nor is he compelled to stay away from them. I also heard that she proposed paying him if he did some basic public events (to satisfy NFL rules) and he declined that. I don't know how true that is, because I think he knows they can't just give him the money. They have to do some performative thing to look like they're paying him for that. Dan should try and recruit him to the coaching staff. Agree on a compensation, and then Sheila can tack on another 1.6 million to the contract. That way he is being compensated for his work at a price he agreed, plus getting the extra money.
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Jan 13, 2022 16:01
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:If the Lions didn’t want to pay the rest of Calvin Johnson’s contract, they could have traded him or cut him, which is what I think he wanted in the first place. Perhaps one difference with Stafford is new owner, new regime and the stink of the Calvin situation leading them to do the right thing. Quinn, Patricia and Woods are all idiots and they handled the Calvin thing in the worst possible way. They refused to budge and he retired. They got nothing for him, they should have worked a trade, but they're idiots.
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Jan 13, 2022 16:04
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Danny LaFever posted:Obviously, things are not so rancorous that Calvin and Lions ownership can't patch things up. I think the issue was they offered to pay him exactly what was owed to do a bunch of new work. To him that means doing more work to get paid what he is already owed. They should probably pay him additional money on top of what is owed. Also yeah, I think he pegged Bob Quinn for a moron immediately and wanted out. Scipiotik fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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Jan 13, 2022 16:05
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Scipiotik posted:Also yeah, I think he pegged Bob Quinn for a moron immediately and wanted out. Nah, 2015 was always going to be his last season. The man was tired and hurting.
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Jan 13, 2022 16:10
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:Gee, I wonder what the difference is between Stafford versus Barry and Calvin? Sheila Ford Hamp and Brad Holmes vs. Sheila's dumbfuck parents and whatever mediocre piece of poo poo front office was in charge at the time.
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Jan 13, 2022 16:11
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Styles Bitchley posted:I'd argue if he was on a competent team he wouldn't be first ballot, and a competent team wouldn't have paid him that much for years and years and crippled their own cap. Incredible post, this was probably my favorite part, keep up the good work
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Jan 13, 2022 16:18
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Meanwhile Nate Burleson has to work 6 jobs now smh https://twitter.com/misterandyd/status/1481636304349634566
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Jan 13, 2022 17:22
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Mercilus was a huge part of why the Packers had that stretch of mid-season strong defensive performance (Arizona, Kansas City, Seattle), so really good to see him back. https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/status/1481666626995068932 Za'Darius, Alexander, Mercilus on defense and Bakhtiari, Myers, and Cobb on offense. Lookin' good for the playoffs.
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Jan 13, 2022 18:04
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Styles Bitchley posted:Meanwhile Nate Burleson has to work 6 jobs now smh Styles Bitchley posted:Matt Nagy is gone, now I don't know who to be. So you chose to be a Ford?
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Jan 13, 2022 18:15
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SKULL.GIF posted:Mercilus was a huge part of why the Packers had that stretch of mid-season strong defensive performance (Arizona, Kansas City, Seattle), so really good to see him back.  What the gently caress, I thought Mercilus wouldn't be able to play until training camp next year.edit: We're absolutely going to get popped for steroids at some point in the next year. surf rock fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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Jan 13, 2022 18:18
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surf rock posted:
When you’re getting up in age and you have a shot at a Super Bowl…
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Jan 13, 2022 18:21
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lol if you think they test for steroids anymore
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Jan 13, 2022 19:46
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Styles Bitchley posted:This is such a tired take. Imagine going back to your old job to clean to toilets just so you can get a sizeable paycheck that your lovely manager already owes you for work you previously did, but didn’t pay you because he wanted to cash in on some dumb tax loophole. Like lol, it’s his money. He shouldn’t have to do more meaningless labour just to earn back money he’s already owed. Regardless of how much money he’s been paid already. Apples McGrind fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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Jan 13, 2022 19:58
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I mean isn’t the money the rest of the contract which he didn’t get because he retired
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Jan 13, 2022 20:04
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Apples McGrind posted:Imagine going back to your old job to clean to toilets just so you can get a sizeable paycheck that your lovely manager already owes you for work you previously did, but didn’t pay you because he wanted to cash in on some dumb tax loophole. I can't tell if you're just parroting a lot of dumb poo poo other uninformed people have said or don't understand how a basic business contract works. CharlestheHammer posted:I mean isn’t the money the rest of the contract which he didn’t get because he retired hhhmm, could such a thing even be possible? no, it's the owners who are wrong
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Jan 13, 2022 20:23
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surf rock posted:
https://twitter.com/Merci380/status/1481706191558479874 Apparently it's a Medical Machine.
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Jan 13, 2022 20:27
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Putting aside if he deserves the money or not I don't understand the "They can't pay him because of rules" take. What's stopping them from just cutting him a check if they wanted to, either from the team for some kind of made up goodwill ambassador role or just a personal check from an owner? I could walk outside right now and give the first person I see a check for all my money, there is no rule stopping me.
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Jan 13, 2022 20:29
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Uhh the NFL
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Jan 13, 2022 20:50
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To break this down as simply as possible, since apparently some people still don't get it: Let's say you pay a kid to cut your lawn during the summer, and pay him $50 in advance every week. He works hard and doesn't complain, even after there was an unfortunate accident that sent him to the hospital for a couple of days. He does this for a couple years, and even though your house looks like poo poo and the driveway needs to be repaved, the lawn always looks immaculate. Neighbors come from around the block to compliment it in this increasingly tortured metaphor. Kid decides he's quitting in the middle of the week. Maybe he's going to school, or he found a better job, whatever. You already paid him for the full week, but instead of letting him keep the change, you come over to his house and ask him politely yet firmly to fork over the $19.64 balance. Later, when you hold a garden party to promote your new... I dunno, fancy gazebo or something, you invite the kid, and are surprised when he turns you down—he doesn't want anything to do with you or your lawn until you pay him back the $19.64 you took out of his wallet. You offer him the cash in return for housesitting for a day, but he turns it down—he's not opposed to doing work for you in the future, but he's not going to do work for money he feels is already owed. That's what the situation is. It has never been about the actual dollar amount itself—it was about the Lions shaking him down for cash they had already paid him, for a comparatively paltry sum. And the thing is, Johnson doesn't need the money, or the Lions—it's the Lions who want him to do things for them, and the onus is on them to do what it takes to make him happy. Is it petty? A bit, sure—but certainly no more petty than what the organization already did to him. GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:Putting aside if he deserves the money or not I don't understand the "They can't pay him because of rules" take. What's stopping them from just cutting him a check if they wanted to, either from the team for some kind of made up goodwill ambassador role or just a personal check from an owner? I could walk outside right now and give the first person I see a check for all my money, there is no rule stopping me. It's an NFL rule to prevent teams from wriggling around the cap by underpaying vets and promising massive payouts after they retire. So if the Lions just cut a check the NFL would probably count it against the cap or instill some other kind of penalty.
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Jan 13, 2022 20:51
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And another thing, why is he getting paid so much to play a kid's game? Why, I would do it for free!
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Jan 13, 2022 20:59
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Isn’t that basically the pro giving him his money argument? Sure he has a contract by Meh I like the guy so who cares
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Jan 13, 2022 21:06
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i would do a lot of things for a paltry 1.6mil, up to and including pretending to be an island boy on tiktok for a day
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Jan 13, 2022 21:08
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SKULL.GIF posted:Mercilus was a huge part of why the Packers had that stretch of mid-season strong defensive performance (Arizona, Kansas City, Seattle), so really good to see him back. Good lord I thought he tore his bicep way earlier in the season
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Jan 14, 2022 02:11
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The Athletic has a good, long piece on how the Bears have been unable to get the GM, HC and QB in sync for over two decades. Here it is in PDF form (19 pages!): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b8hpcolkIcLhND-KIPWW0ainXavASst-/view?usp=sharing
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:The Athletic has a good, long piece on how the Bears have been unable to get the GM, HC and QB in sync for over two decades. Here it is in PDF form (19 pages!): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b8hpcolkIcLhND-KIPWW0ainXavASst-/view?usp=sharing brutal read
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Jan 14, 2022 17:03
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:The Athletic has a good, long piece on how the Bears have been unable to get the GM, HC and QB in sync for over two decades. Here it is in PDF form (19 pages!): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b8hpcolkIcLhND-KIPWW0ainXavASst-/view?usp=sharing This is the TA link if you have a subscription: https://theathletic.com/3069761/202...-regimes-trash/
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Jan 14, 2022 17:06
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Isnt Athletic being bought by the Times? I think that makes it a moral imperative to start pirating it.
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Jan 14, 2022 17:08
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MJeff posted:Isnt Athletic being bought by the Times? I think that makes it a moral imperative to start pirating it. I fully agree but I also have a subscription that doesn't expire for another 8 months 
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Jan 14, 2022 17:11
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Yeah, I'm legitimately pIssed that I am supporting the NYT now.
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Jan 14, 2022 17:25
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https://twitter.com/BFRMedia/status/1482021446155218951 https://twitter.com/BearsNationCHI/status/1482016596285849604 ahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahaha The pure disrespect shown to the NVP by Matt Nagy Dexo fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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Jan 14, 2022 17:25
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Hizawk posted:Yeah, I'm legitimately pIssed that I am supporting the NYT now. If it's any consolation, if you paid upfront before the acquisition the NYT probably won't see any of that money.
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Wow, the second one makes me think of how Foles has been quoted a couple times saying that the offense simply doesn’t work. It’s going to be hilarious if Trubisky ends up doing well on another team. (I don’t think that will really happen.)
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