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Mr. Wiggles posted:On another though complimentary note, I came into an overabundance of molasses. In figuring out what to do with it, I turned some of it into molasses syrup. And boy oh boy does that match up well with dark rum things. I'm looking forward to seeing everything else I can blend it with. Don't let it loose on the Boston streets.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Can’t make that sub, no. Heering is sweet and syrupy, maraschino is dry, bittersweet, and- herbal? It’s a very unique flavor, the closest I can describe it is halfway between cherry cough syrup and anise. But good! Most excellent, thank you for the quick reply! Shows you how much I know about cherry-flavoured things, lol.
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Heering is also blood red, so it will turn your Aviation into a Cloud Suck. Okay, now I'm going to play around with Heering and creme de violette and see what kind of weird purple cocktails I can make. I've definitely made some purplish skies and dark blue ones by messing up the ratios. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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Jan 11, 2022 16:52
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Yeah I made that mistake once, cannot recommend. One other major reason not to is that maraschino/maraska is clear, whereas Heering is dark red, and one of the major features of the Aviation is its light blue color. If you use Heering or other red-colored liqueur it turns the whole thing into brown muddy garbage. Once you've tasted or smelled maraschino you'll know why it's not a sub for cherry anything, it is its own very distinctive flavor, with only the barest suggestion of cherry-like-ness. efb - good luck, I thought "cool purple" was a possible outcome but it turned out ... not to be Violette and Campari, now maybe that has potential
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Jan 11, 2022 16:54
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Halloween Jack posted:Heering is also blood red, so it will turn your Aviation into a Cloud Suck. Would you be able to layer the two liqueurs so you get two distinct colours at the beginning, then you mix right as you're drinking, perhaps? Data Graham posted:Yeah I made that mistake once, cannot recommend. One other major reason not to is that maraschino/maraska is clear, whereas Heering is dark red, and one of the major features of the Aviation is its light blue color. If you use Heering or other red-colored liqueur it turns the whole thing into brown muddy garbage. Yeah, I'm gonna go buy two bottles of everything so I can "experiment" (see: have an excuse to drink at least one Aviation a night  ) to try to get the best flavour/colour balance. A few of the recipes I saw online were saying the same thing regarding the purple colour, so hopefully I'll be able to dial in that really popping purple that all the photos show.
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Jan 11, 2022 17:22
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How bad is sunlight for a liquor cabinet? I noticed mine gets an hour or so of direct sun in the winter, is it a “find a new location ASAP” situation or a “you might kind of taste a difference in bottle after a couple years” situation?
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Jan 11, 2022 17:22
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If I'm going to bother with layering, I'm just going to make B-52s and play "Roam/Bushfire" on vinyl.
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Jan 11, 2022 17:28
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Mr. Wiggles posted:On another though complimentary note, I came into an overabundance of molasses. In figuring out what to do with it, I turned some of it into molasses syrup. And boy oh boy does that match up well with dark rum things. I'm looking forward to seeing everything else I can blend it with. Slowly turning into an older Vermonter drinking Black Stripes and Stone Fences.
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Toebone posted:How bad is sunlight for a liquor cabinet? I noticed mine gets an hour or so of direct sun in the winter, is it a “find a new location ASAP” situation or a “you might kind of taste a difference in bottle after a couple years” situation? Unless you’re taking an incredibly long time to go through a bottle, like years, you probably won’t see any difference. Introducing oxygen by opening it does just as much and most people don’t worry about that.
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Johnny Truant posted:I'm thinking I'm going to have an Aviation as the "cocktail of the night" for a dinner party I'm hosting this weekend, and I have one quick question regarding it - all the recipes I've scoped call for "maraschino liqueur". I'm not the biggest fan of cherry so I'm not incredibly familiar with this, would I be able to sub in Heering Cherry Liqueur in a pinch? Maraschino Liquer is not that cherry flavored honestly. It uses the pits of the cherries not the fruit to distill the spirit.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:13
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I replaced the lime juice with lemon juice in The Last Word, and it's pretty good! It's a bit more mellow and sweeter than before. Reminiscent of a lemon head after you've finished the outer shell.
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Jan 13, 2022 05:47
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Is DIY grenadine better than some bottled brand, cost aside? I need some and I’m fine with paying more for a bottle if the flavor will be as good as anything I would make.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Is DIY grenadine better than some bottled brand, cost aside? DIY is always better for the cost. Most poo poo in a bottle is artificially flavored corn syrup, even more expensive ones.
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The difference between good homemade grenade and good bottled grenadine is that the bottled stuff is still worse, because it has enough preservatives to make it shelf-stable, and ridiculously expensive for what it is. Edit:  Citric acid
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Jan 13, 2022 15:55
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Having tried several bottled grenadines and made my own, I can safely say that the homemade stuff is best, and that I don’t like grenadine very much regardless. For what it’s worth, the recipe in Cocktail Codex has the right idea when they add some citric acid to give it a bright pop. You risk having a stewed, almost tomatoey flavor otherwise, which I think is more authentic but isn’t very good at all.
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I make grenadine by just doing a syrup of pomegranate juice and sugar
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First attempt at an Aviation and yeah, y'all were right, that purple colour is hard to obtain!   I used the recipe from liquor.com, and phreow, this absolutely needs its creme de violette and lemon juice rations swapped. It was like a hint of creme de violette right at the beginning, then drinking straight lemon juice. I couldn't even taste the gin!
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:I make grenadine by just doing a syrup of pomegranate juice and sugar
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Johnny Truant posted:First attempt at an Aviation and yeah, y'all were right, that purple colour is hard to obtain! An aviation is supposed to be silver, not purple. The sky isn't purple, and if your aviation is it probably tastes like poo poo. E: liquor.com's spec has both too much lemon juice AND too much violette. Generally you want a barspoon, which is 1/8th to 1/12th of an oz depending on the spoon Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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Jan 13, 2022 20:51
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Jesus lmao You have to really like some god drat violette to make it that dark
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Just like a little anise goes a long way in terms of flavour, a little violette goes a long way in terms of colour.
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Data Graham posted:Jesus lmao  I tried the violette on its own and I really did like it a lot!Fart Car '97 posted:An aviation is supposed to be silver, not purple. The sky isn't purple, and if your aviation is it probably tastes like poo poo. I mean, I googled "aviation cocktail" and easily 75%+ of the images and recipes that came back had it that lovely purple colour  I'm definitely not going to decrease the violette amount, at least not until I lower the lemon juice so it's not just drinking a lemon, lol.
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I got an Aviation at a local place and it was light grey. Tasted great though. Re: molasses syrup, I just made syrup from dark muscovado sugar and it's similarly amazing in rum cocktails. Probably pretty similar to that!
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The Maestro posted:Ah yes that beautiful purple sky we all know and love. 
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If you want a purple aviation just use Empress and charge $6 more for it.
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Or tempus fugit’s creme de violette which is a bright maroon color
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How long does homemade grenadine tend to last? I’ve got a bottle I made over the summer (with an ounce of vodka added) that still smells and tastes fine, though it’s begun looking a bit brownish.
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anything good i can make with manischewitz? it's sitting in my liquor cabinet and i'd like to use it up, but i can't drink it like wine. bit nasty on its own
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Karenina posted:anything good i can make with manischewitz? it's sitting in my liquor cabinet and i'd like to use it up, but i can't drink it like wine. bit nasty on its own Call it port and serve it to unsuspecting friends. Reduce to a syrup for use on pancakes. Freeze into grape popsicles.
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Karenina posted:anything good i can make with manischewitz?
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Karenina posted:anything good i can make with manischewitz? Make boozy slushies.
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If you stir an aviation to mix instead of shaking, it should help you get a more purple color I think.
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Why would that matter?
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Less air to lighten the color maybe?
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I think we just talked in a circle, but stirred Aviation is definitely more purple. Citrus juice is much cloudier when shaken, and gives more of that gray color. I suppose generally speaking you might end up with a little more dilution as well, though that depends on a few other factors.
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Karenina posted:anything good i can make with manischewitz? it's sitting in my liquor cabinet and i'd like to use it up, but i can't drink it like wine. bit nasty on its own Dogg. I manage the bar at a Jewish restaurant. You came to the right place. I make a Manischewitz syrup by combining an equal volume of it with white sugar and stirring vigorously. The resultant “Manny syrup” is surprisingly useful. Here are a couple recipes from my book: Mensch 75 1.5oz gin 0.75 lemon juice 0.5 Manny syrup Shake, fine strain into whatever glass, top with dry sparkling wine. Garnish with a lemon twist or a small plastic dreidel. Synagogue Sling 1.5oz vodka 0.75 lemon juice 0.5 Manny syrup 0.5 Luxardo Bitter Bianco (Suze or Salers will work fine too) Shake and dump, ice and all, into a tall rocks glass. A lemon twist is nice but not strictly necessary. Try using it anywhere you’d use grenadine. It’s fun!
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Thanks for the trinidad sour discussion, I need to try that. On the topic of bitters, mole bitters seemed like one of our more common "oh, we have almost everything for this cocktail, except for..." ingredients. I put a bottle in my wife's stocking for Christmas, so of course now that we have them, I can't remember those recipes, and my googling isn't bringing up much of interest. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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WaffleZombie posted:Thanks for the trinidad sour discussion, I need to try that. I’m fond of the “hotel room temperature:” https://kindredcocktails.com/cocktail/hotel-room-temperature
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Left Hand!
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Johnny Truant posted:
That's because, much like you discovered, a well made aviation isn't actually a super impressive color. Media shoots the cocktail to look good, not to reflect what it actually looks like when placed in front of the drinker. Ive been guilty of this myself when prepping a drink for media. You yourself found this out personally when you made liquor.com's spec and discovered that the bright purple drink in their image is very obviously not the drink their recipe makes. It's almost certainly just Violette and water with possibly a little citrus juice adjusted until they have a nice, photographable purple, which is then further made more vibrant in post processing. Look at the domains of 90% of the images you're talking about. They're middle-aged-white-mommy blogs that live and die on listicles and bright pictures that result in click-throughs. I promise you, almost every one of those images is not an actual cocktail. 3/4 of an ounce of lemon in the spec you posted is way too much for sure, but you shouldn't be so beholden to 1/4 oz violette either. Try a little less, try a little more. For most people 1/4oz is going to be pushing into soap-territory but you may have different tastes. Don't let your mental image of what the drink should be prevent you from finding the spec you actually enjoy drinking the most. Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jan 15, 2022 |
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