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StoicRomance posted:Kid 1 and Wife have the rona. Eight days of positive rapid tests. Kid 2 and I, more vulnerable because of the comorbidities of "being a baby" for her and "loving everything" for me, are isolating in a different part of the house. you should probably stop loving everything during the pandemic that really sucks. I'm also in a house with 4 people including a baby, and being the one without covid taking care of the baby all day by myself would be brutal. hope your wife and kid get better soon
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Jan 15, 2022 19:52
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Noblesse Obliged posted:https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html quote:This page is for healthcare professionals caring for people in the community setting under isolation with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19. See Quarantine and Isolation for more information for the general population in the community. The study also isn't about continually testing positive, it is about testing positive after being released from isolation. It's a study about reinfection https://www.mofa.go.kr/eng/brd/m_22743/down.do?brd_id=20544&seq=3&data_tp=A&file_seq=1 From the CDC site: quote:Infectiousness peaks around one day before symptom onset and declines within a week of symptom onset, with an average period of infectiousness and risk of transmission between 2-3 days before and 8 days after symptom onset. The three months specifically cited in your quote is qualified in the body as: quote:Studies of patients who were hospitalized and recovered indicate that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be detected in upper respiratory tract specimens for up to 3 months (12 weeks) after symptom onset Again from the link: Limitations of Current Evidence quote:More data are needed to understand the frequency and duration of infectious SARS-CoV-2 shedding among the spectrum of mild to severely immunocompromised people, including both asymptomatic and symptomatic people. The other study cited on that CDC page in relation to length of isolation: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33029620/ quote:Persistently positive SARS-CoV-2 RNA PCRs in recovered patients are common but are generally associated with high Ct values, reflecting low viral loads. Maybe your interpretation is right, I am not a doctor either and I loving hate reading papers like this. But there's nothing that I could find that says that quote is about rapid tests, nor that indicates that testing positive while non-contagious for extended period is normal for non-hospitalized infections.
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Jan 15, 2022 20:08
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Yes. Reading more it seems to say that pcr tests can detect for 3 months but RATS are only during peak infection My bad. Guess I’m an example of why people keep saying that.
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Jan 15, 2022 20:14
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Raenir Salazar posted:When does it start getting warm again. -20 is rude. Prob April tbh, then it's wildfires till November
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Jan 15, 2022 21:15
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Raenir Salazar posted:When does it start getting warm again. -20 is rude. I bought a Switch because it's too loving cold to jump on my fatbike and pretend to enjoy winter this year. Today it was supposed to be warmer so we went to the lake to fish but lmao it's basically a winter hurricane out there. Fish haven't been biting where we are but gently caress it I'm parked beside the heater playing Zelda.
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Jan 15, 2022 23:31
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pokeyman posted:Without wading into the probably pointless distinction between "admitted to hospital for covid" versus "with covid", the interesting bit to me of this summary Its an important distinction, especially since case numbers are no longer at all reliable indicators of how prevalent covid is. Instead lots of places look to hospitalization rates but these numbers can lie in new and interesting ways. Only recently did NS start reporting the data with this level of detail. It used to be they'd only list the people that were in hospital because of covid (testing positive and having breathing trouble *I think* is the definition). I don't know when someone is considered recovered in these cases.
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Jan 15, 2022 23:38
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EvilJoven posted:Fish haven't been biting where we are They're all frozen, yo.
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Jan 15, 2022 23:40
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Bleck posted:They're all frozen, yo. Yeah you basically punched a hole in the roof of their house and let the cold air in, plug it up and go home!
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Jan 15, 2022 23:42
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Lol got to watch one of my fishing buddies fill on tackle an ice fishing tent that's blowing away in this poo poo storm. Dude needs to try out for the bombers. After a riding buddy had his thighs freeze to the point where they turned purple while we were out riding yesterday and dealing with this snowcane today I've determined that this winter also needs to calm the gently caress down.
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Jan 16, 2022 00:12
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You live in Manitoba, IDK what you were expecting.
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Jan 16, 2022 00:22
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Count Roland posted:Its an important distinction, especially since case numbers are no longer at all reliable indicators of how prevalent covid is. Instead lots of places look to hospitalization rates but these numbers can lie in new and interesting ways. Honestly I feel like case numbers haven't been a reliable or great metric throughout the entire pandemic. How prevalent are asymptomatic carriers? We'd never really know except using the sewage testing perhaps? The government would have to be doing fully randomized sampling of the population to try and get good reliable case numbers. I've been using hospitalization and ICU rates (absolute values, not the ratio stuff) to track how well or poor any given area is doing. The slope of the graph is what I find most important. Steep upward slopes == "a bad time" What I'd REALLY like to see are stats on the long COVID population. How severe the symptoms are: duration, frequency, intensity. I have a vested interest in this as I have what I refer now to "long C. Diff." I got C. Difficile in Oct 2016 and after multiple rounds of harsh antibiotics over a period of a few months I finally managed to eliminate the bacteria and it stopped recurring. But I had to go off work for half a year to recover from the whole thing. Some of the symptoms that started at this point and which have never stopped are brain fog, lethargy, severe executive dysfunction, and "intestinal distress." I very rarely have an appetite and can walk through an entire grocery store, feeling my stomach aching because I need to eat, and not find anything that I actually want to eat. My brain basically feels broken 99% of the time. Despite a degree in Comp Sci and over a decade of programming/tech work experience, my brain won't function at the level necessary to do that work for very long before the brain fog starts and then increases if I try and keep pushing through. I really hope that those who have or get long COVID have things easier than me.
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Jan 16, 2022 01:24
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infernal machines posted:You live in Manitoba, IDK what you were expecting. Manitoba is just frozen Australia, everything there is trying to kill you.
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Jan 16, 2022 01:36
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Then: "let's keep crowing about how kids don't get covid and we can keep schools open" Now: 44% of eligible 5-11 year olds have their first shot
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Jan 16, 2022 02:47
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I contacted my son's school and was able to put him in 'short term virtual learning' so we bought ourselves some time. He has both shots but his little sister isn't eligible yet. I'm pretty glad Waterloo's public school board has made this an option because I was really struggling with making a decision.
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Jan 16, 2022 02:53
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I can't loving wait until my 4-year-old is eligible. It's stressing me out. I don't think I can wait until he turns 5 this summer.
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Jan 16, 2022 03:55
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I can't loving wait until my 4-year-old is eligible. It's stressing me out. Do you need to wait until he turns 5 or is he eligible as long as he turns 5 this year? I know when they first started rolling out last year, as long as a child turned 12 in 2021, they were immediately eligible for a shot. The same happened for the 5-11 group too. But I can see it differing by province and it only applying to initial rollout and not afterwards.
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Jan 16, 2022 04:28
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I remember that happening too, but he's already in the BC register, and we haven't gotten a notification yet. Good point though. Maybe I'll give them a call.
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Jan 16, 2022 04:36
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Count Roland posted:Its an important distinction, especially since case numbers are no longer at all reliable indicators of how prevalent covid is. Instead lots of places look to hospitalization rates but these numbers can lie in new and interesting ways. I figure if the whole game is "prevent hospitals being overrun" then it doesn't really matter much where the covid box gets ticked on the admittance form. I'm all for keeping and sharing the stats, I'm just not sure what to do with them. I'm definitely no expert though.
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Jan 16, 2022 04:55
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Furnaceface posted:Manitoba is just frozen Australia, everything there is trying to kill you. Australia is far more interesting
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Jan 16, 2022 05:16
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Apparently nature abhorred the plan to send Ontario kids back to school today.
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Jan 17, 2022 14:53
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What’s interesting is because we’re already set up for remote learning the kids don’t get a snow day, they get a “virtual classroom” day instead.
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Jan 17, 2022 15:08
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I would be so pissed if I were a kid.
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Jan 17, 2022 15:09
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Perhaps we have seen the last of snow days? What a terrible thing to miss out on.
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Jan 17, 2022 15:17
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Jordan7hm posted:What’s interesting is because we’re already set up for remote learning the kids don’t get a snow day, they get a “virtual classroom” day instead. Nice, that makes sense. We don't in renfrew county, we got a 5am email saying buses are cancelled but schools are OPEN.
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Jan 17, 2022 15:26
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Nice, that makes sense. We don't in renfrew county, we got a 5am email saying buses are cancelled but My dad used to be one of the people that made the call to close schools in Ottawa, and I used to get so mad when he’d cancel busses but still make me walk to school.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:05
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It's clear that we overvalue the idea of school/education, and undervalue the people in charge of actually doing the education. gently caress it, school is not so important that you can't take the day off in the middle of a snowstorm. Let one go!
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Jan 17, 2022 16:16
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I can’t recall us ever having a snow/weather day in Regina. I do know they cancel busses when the weather gets too lovely though.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:34
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When I was in highschool our busload decided we were having an ice day when the drat thing slid sideways at an intersection until it came to rest against the sidewalk after coming to a stop, just from road crown. Our route would have taken us along some twisty rural roads on the side of a little cliff face before heading into the city and we collectively said 'gently caress that'. When the driver wouldn't let us out so we could walk back to our houses we all jumped out the emergency door at the back. gently caress you bus driver lady, we aren't going to risk dying in a car fire for another day of learning algebra and reading Shakespeare, even if McBeth is baller.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:43
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I don't remember having official snow days, but I do remember my parents being like "gently caress this poo poo, you don't need to go to school in this trash." Honestly, I skipped school plenty (both with and without my parents' permission) and it never ever loving mattered.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:45
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Nothing like skipping school to go to Science North with a buddy that had a year membership. I think I learned more on that cut day than I did in a week of school. Still got in poo poo. Don't loving care, I got to hold the flying squirrel.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:48
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PT6A posted:It's clear that we overvalue the idea of school/education, and undervalue the people in charge of actually doing the education.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:49
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Mr. Apollo posted:Part of the issue is that, in Ontario at least, school board funding is based on how many days the schools are open. For every snow day where they close the schools, the boards lose funding. Maybe the issue is, and I'm just brainstorming here... that policy is absolutely dumb as all gently caress.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:50
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Snow days are generally more for rural schools here. If you're in Winnipeg you're going. Although the one snow day we had it was like 6 foot high snow drifts - no lie. Wind and accumulation sucks.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:51
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The only legit snow day I can remember was the big blizzard in 1999 where the army was called in and whatnot. Otherwise it was always just cancelled buses but my parents usually insisted on driving me to school anyway.
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Jan 17, 2022 16:56
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Weird question for the AB/BC folks in here, is tobacco advertising legal out there? I don't mean vape products (which sort of fly under the radar here in ON), I mean like cigarettes and other tobacco products?
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Jan 17, 2022 16:57
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infernal machines posted:Weird question for the AB/BC folks in here, is tobacco advertising legal out there? I don't mean vape products (which sort of fly under the radar here in ON), I mean like cigarettes and other tobacco products? I don't know if it's changed since plain packaging, but yes, you could have tobacco advertising in 18+ bars in Alberta. I also remember seeing a lot of tobacco ads in magazines and such.
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Jan 17, 2022 17:00
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Huh. That's been illegal here for quite a few years so I wasn't sure. I just came across something that appeared to be placing cigarette ads in a restaurant and it struck me as odd. It didn't occur to me that the restrictions were provincial rather than federal.
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Jan 17, 2022 17:04
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infernal machines posted:Huh. That's been illegal here for quite a few years so I wasn't sure. I just came across something that appeared to be placing cigarette ads in a restaurant and it struck me as odd. It didn't occur to me that the restrictions were provincial rather than federal. It's very rare here because very few places are 18+-only, it's basically just lovely dives that have VLTs. You could very easily never see one.
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Jan 17, 2022 17:06
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I remembered snow days in Lower Mainland where we were told on the radio not to go to school. That was the norm for us. In Northern BC, we never had a snow day or cold day even when it was -40 C outside for the last 8 days. The schools would be kept open and it would be more or less non-instructional day. In Northern BC we had a significant number of marginalized families and students. There was a risk of one of those kids walking to school in -40 and/or in 5’ of snow, finding the doors locked, and going full Matchstick Girl. So the doors stayed unlocked and staffed with essential staff like administration and custodial.
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Jan 17, 2022 17:50
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