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That Italian Guy posted:The problem with this is that the show is very unapologetic about the characters being good and right. Which is so confusing when Mimi's song about Mark not living his life at the fullest is about not doing heroin with her. yeah I edited my post but it was mostly just to say the same thing but clearer I hope. Mark is potentially the least lovely of his wack-rear end collective, and he almost makes it, but the brain-rot from cosplaying as the impoverished down-trodden plebe gets the better of him in the end. oldpainless posted:At some point on this forum I said the 1992 version of Dracula was terrible and a bad movie and after rewatching it tonight I will say, for the first time in my life, I was wrong and that was a bad post. this movie whips rear end. dracula's fluted red armor is the illest fit
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Babe Magnet posted:yeah I edited my post but it was mostly just to say the same thing but clearer I hope. I've got a picture somewhere of Dracula in anime as gently caress massive red armour and it's a look that suits. One day I'll do that Pendragon campaign where Sir Belmont and their friends face off against the forces of Dracula in a tournament to decide the fate of the realm.
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One of my college friends described Bram Stoker's Dracula as "Francis Ford Coppola filming an incredibly well-funded high school play" and I think it's surprisingly accurate.
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Rewatched Alien and: Where is the rain coming from then Brett is poking around looking for the cat or whatever he;s doing? Aren't they in space and inside a ship? Or is it supposed to be condensation dripping off the equipment or something? I'd never thought about it before.
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scott apparently says in interviews it’s moisture condensors or whatever but you could also say it’s stuff falling from the landing gear since that’s the room they’re in
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A big point of Alien is that the Nostromo is an OSHA nightmare from every angle. Event Horizon is quite deliberately similar.
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exquisite tea posted:There's a lot to critique about Rent, and I do agree that it misses the political forces that made the AIDS epidemic as bad as it was during the late 80s, but I don't really agree that Mark is some bougie guy pretending to be poor. Maybe he came from a more affluent background than most, but he genuinely seems to believe in his art and repeatedly rejects the comforts of selling out or coming back home, even when he wouldn't be judged for doing so. In our current age the idea of preserving one's integrity against the forces of capitalism is kind of alien concept, but 35 years ago there were people who truly believed that things like art and human creativity could withstand the process of commodification and mass production. Nah, nah, I know guys exactly like that and they don't deserve any credit. One guy in particular ran away from a high school field trip in India to basically gently caress around with a bunch of backpackers, do lsd, and swim in the Ganges. He came back with a bunch of intestinal parasites he refused to get treated and talked about how he met Shiva while tripping balls and is now a guru. Later he ran away into the woods for a week and came back bragging about how he was able to fend for himself. Spent the next couple years train hopping, panhandling, and couch surfing. His parents are loaded as hell and the only reason he did all this was because he knew deep down that at any point he could just turn around and go home where he had everything he could ever want. It was all just fun and games where he was never actually in a precarious situation. Everyone else I knew who was working class thought he was a joke because we actually had to worry about our future and making ends meet. Last I heard someone beat the poo poo out of him for sleeping with his girlfriend and he moved to Florida to work as a yoga instructor. A happy ending
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Mark is hardcore into poverty tourism, gets called out by an actual poor person for exploiting them, and learns nothing and does not reflect on it. He also gets a job offer during the musical and takes it, then continues to exploit his friends for free labor and work for his film. The weirdest part of a musical where someone gets resurrected is that a character reprograms an ATM to give out free money and its just a like "oh yeah that happens" aside.
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I feel it all sums up late capitalism so very well.
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Also, what the gently caress is a "password" for an ATM and if you're talking about a PIN, ANGEL is 5 letters so what the hell did he do the the machine? I don't give a poo poo about dog murderers, I want a musical about this techno wizard
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La Vie Bohemme is one of the worst songs in the history of the stage and I'm including everything that fell out of Andrew Lloyd Webber's empty loving head. We're supposed to sympathize with a group of people that show up to a restaurant, order a bunch of poo poo, never pay for anything, and then stage choreographed musical numbers while people are trying to eat? It also keeps interrupting itself with snippets of other songs from elsewhere in the play, and half the lyrics are slogans and affirmations stolen from activist groups and marginalized communities at the time.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:La Vie Bohemme is one of the worst songs in the history of the stage and I'm including everything that fell out of Andrew Lloyd Webber's empty loving head. We're supposed to sympathize with a group of people that show up to a restaurant, order a bunch of poo poo, never pay for anything, and then stage choreographed musical numbers while people are trying to eat? It also keeps interrupting itself with snippets of other songs from elsewhere in the play, and half the lyrics are slogans and affirmations stolen from activist groups and marginalized communities at the time. Wasn't there a goon who talked about their highschool theater kids trying to do this in real life and getting kicked out/the cops called on them?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:half the lyrics are slogans and affirmations stolen from activist groups and marginalized communities at the time. All the important themes and representation are side dressing for what the characters really care about : do whatever the gently caress they want, whenever they want, to whoever they want. This is because, no matter how diverse the cast can be, all the characters are in the end an expression of white, wealthy 90s American sensibilities. It's more or less this in long form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ
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Barudak posted:Wasn't there a goon who talked about their highschool theater kids trying to do this in real life and getting kicked out/the cops called on them? Even if it was another case of stdh, it certainly feels like something that's happened.
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I just watched Midnight Mass and it was honestly a lot better than I was expecting. One of the best parts about it was, get this, there was an actual loving ending. It was a complete story. One of the reasons I put off watching it was because I didn't realize it was a limited series. And thats my IIMM: so many modern "prestige" series are just gigantic wastes of time because there's some expectation that they will continue into perpetuity so they end up with tons of filler and padding that goes nowhere and adds nothing to the story. Mysteries drag on with no resolution and often the shows get canceled in the middle of some cliffhanger. Even when they do continue, they usually lose the plot as the writers scramble to come up with ways to keep the show going. It sucks. I really want more limited series where there is a coherent vision and a complete story arc with at least the attempt at a satisfying conclusion.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:I just watched Midnight Mass and it was honestly a lot better than I was expecting. One of the best parts about it was, get this, there was an actual loving ending. It was a complete story. One of the reasons I put off watching it was because I didn't realize it was a limited series. And thats my IIMM: so many modern "prestige" series are just gigantic wastes of time because there's some expectation that they will continue into perpetuity so they end up with tons of filler and padding that goes nowhere and adds nothing to the story. Mysteries drag on with no resolution and often the shows get canceled in the middle of some cliffhanger. Even when they do continue, they usually lose the plot as the writers scramble to come up with ways to keep the show going. It sucks. I really want more limited series where there is a coherent vision and a complete story arc with at least the attempt at a satisfying conclusion. If you haven't already, watch The Haunting of Hill House.
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That Italian Guy posted:If you haven't already, watch The Haunting of Hill House. By the same people The Haunting of Bly Manor is also pretty great.
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BioEnchanted posted:By the same people The Haunting of Bly Manor is also pretty great.
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That Italian Guy posted:If you haven't already, watch The Haunting of Hill House. Was thinking about it since its by the same guy. I just read the book relatively recently as well. But now I'm having a mild Mandela Effect freakout since I distinctly remember watching a movie adaptation that wasn't The Haunting and I can't find any reference to it anywhere.
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I think La Vie Boheme is cringey but makes sense since the people singing it are like 19 years old so of course they think liking Susan Sontag or Sondheim makes them counter cultural and important.
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Mu Zeta posted:I think La Vie Boheme is cringey but makes sense since the people singing it are like 19 years old so of course they think liking Susan Sontag or Sondheim makes them counter cultural and important. I've said it before about the whole show, but La Vie Bohéme is literally "Throw it on the ground", but serious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ
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That Italian Guy posted:If you haven't already, watch The Haunting of Hill House. I have this weird? thing with horror that I always hated it until I started reading Stephen King in my 20s (started with me reading It to get over a phobia after seeing the miniseries when I was like 10 and absolutely loving the novel) and realized it's a lot broader than just either slasher gore or 'small group of people are in a scary location, jamp scares happen'. I still hate set ups where it's like small family moves into haunted house, family secrets and scariness happens, but I've come to appreciate stuff like Midnight Mass and Archive 84 (which I'm in the middle of now) because the supernatural horror is kind of secondary to the real horror of the regular people and/or an actually compelling mystery that goes beyong a previous owner or ancestor doing something evil and now the new people have to pay or whatever. My question is, are the Haunting stuff mentioned more of the former or more of the latter?
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Len posted:You said it earlier on this page lol  Edit: also insomnia is a hell of a thing
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Taeke posted:I have this weird? thing with horror that I always hated it until I started reading Stephen King in my 20s (started with me reading It to get over a phobia after seeing the miniseries when I was like 10 and absolutely loving the novel) and realized it's a lot broader than just either slasher gore or 'small group of people are in a scary location, jamp scares happen'. More the former generally but some of the ghosts have interesting backstories, like the Bent Neck Lady from Haunting of Hill House - The Bent Neck Lady is a ghost that one of the children keeps seeing, often standing in a corner, or hovering over her while she's in bed, and she's creepy as gently caress. Towards the end of the story, we see what it actually is - that same child is compelled to hang themselves by some supernatural force, and as they fall, they fall straight THROUGH the floor, and are pulled by the rope through every appearence of the Bent Neck Lady - turns out that lady was actually the girl's future self, being dragged backwards through time after her death. Bly Manor has kind of a neat visual thing where the longer a ghost is trapped in their afterlife, the more of their face erodes away as they forget who they are. Both of the shows also have a bunch of hidden ghosts in multiple shots too, standing in shadows where they can barely be seen, but in screenshots it's like "OH, they WERE there!" BioEnchanted has a new favorite as of 22:55 on Jan 16, 2022 |
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BioEnchanted posted:Both of the shows also have
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Was thinking about it since its by the same guy. I just read the book relatively recently as well. But now I'm having a mild Mandela Effect freakout since I distinctly remember watching a movie adaptation that wasn't The Haunting and I can't find any reference to it anywhere. The house on haunted hill maybe? Or Rose Red, the TV miniseries?
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Mu Zeta posted:I think La Vie Boheme is cringey but makes sense since the people singing it are like 19 years old so of course they think liking Susan Sontag or Sondheim makes them counter cultural and important. Most of the cast of Rent is supposed to be in like their mid-twenties to early thirties Iirc the only reason Benny gives a poo poo about any of them is because him and Mark were roommates in college.
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Am I a cultureless monster if I just find the music really catchy? I want to go ou-wooooooot tonight
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oldpainless posted:At some point on this forum I said the 1992 version of Dracula was terrible and a bad movie and after rewatching it tonight I will say, for the first time in my life, I was wrong and that was a bad post. I'm glad you acknowledge your mistake, because it owns real hard and is also super duper camp.
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ishikabibble posted:Most of the cast of Rent is supposed to be in like their mid-twenties to early thirties In the same vein, Even Hansen being played by the same actor. This is what an highschooler looks like! 
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That Italian Guy posted:Isn't that just a problem caused by the shared cast between the theatrical musical and the movie (with 9 years between the two releases)? I was more referring to some of the stated occupations/history in the movie. Collins is/was supposed to be a university professor, Benny is a trust fund kid but who's taken over enough of a position to have his own personal money to go throwing around on things like 'buying an entire city block so his friends can live in it rent free'. Mark is the same age as Benny since they were in college together (and presumably, finished college together). Joanne is a Harvard graduate lawyer working for a prestigious law firm, etc etc. I'll give you maybe like Mimi or Angel might be young, but the rest of the cast at least should be solidly mid-twenties at the earliest, unless there's some serious anime aging going on.
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SiKboy posted:The house on haunted hill maybe? Or Rose Red, the TV miniseries? I figured it out, it was Legend of Hell House. I got it confused because they have very similar stories. Matheson is much more misogynistic than Shirley Jackson, tho e: House on Haunted Hill with Vincent Price owns. The ending is hilariously bonkers 800peepee51doodoo has a new favorite as of 23:56 on Jan 16, 2022 |
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