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Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

Potrzebie posted:

290 kvm och Tesla på uppfarten. Det är tepanyaki-gate på repris.

This was what was so funny to me. All these assholes have to have at least one Tesla in their driveway as well.



Here is the guy moaning about an 11k power bill.

I'm glad he can get a rebate, but MY GIRLFRIEND's mom has a really lovely pension that the parties made sure stayed lovely when sossarna did a change in leader.

Dirk Pitt fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Jan 12, 2022

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Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010
That pic triggered me as well yesterday. It's like they staged the mf to look as unsympathetic as possible.

Just heating that lounge is probably a major fraction of those 11k. All so he could put 60k worth of MIO plush there.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
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Can't believe that fucker gets a rebate while I just have to accept paying 11k more to game.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Dirk Pitt posted:

This was what was so funny to me. All these assholes have to have at least one Tesla in their driveway as well.



Here is the guy moaning about an 11k power bill.

I'm glad he can get a rebate, but MY GIRLFRIEND's mom has a really lovely pension that the parties made sure stayed lovely when sossarna did a change in leader.

It gets better

https://www.hn.se/livets-g%E5ng/bankdirekt%F6r-isaksson-s%F6ker-nya-utmaningar-1.43550476



S/O to dyngbaggegalan on IG for pointing this out

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Potrzebie posted:

Because they, like most parties, don't care that much about poor people?

It's also very dumb on another level. At least 35% of energy customers don't have rörligt pris. The rest of us took the risk to save money and now we should, in a free market, reap what we sowed. But no, the middle and upper classes will not face the consequences of our actions. That would be unacceptable.

Bingo
Also, this S government is and have been purely reactive to different events throughout the last 8 years, and this is just another example of that.

Also, double the electric bill in a modern energy efficient house was not the funniest experience.

fnox
May 19, 2013



Lol @ Per Bolund giving loving press releases maskless while having coughing fits.

https://twitter.com/PhilipSyren/status/1481586483660218376

Like is there any surprise he tested positive immediately after this? He seems to have also gotten Annie Lööf.

EDIT: Seems like he got everybody! Now even Magdalena Andersson's got it

fnox fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jan 14, 2022

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

So have they said who's getting a rebate?

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

McCloud posted:

So have they said who's getting a rebate?

Teary eyed Villaägare, looking first at their electricity bill, then at their tax rebate on housing loans, then back to the electricity bill:

"Please, Staten, I want some more."

Staten:

"But why of course, here's 6 bn SEK, knock yourself out and don't forget to fill up your god damned outdoors pool with potable water in the middle of next Summer's drought"

Woodenlung
Dec 10, 2013

Calculating Infinity

ted hitler hunter posted:

What did he leak and to whom did he leak it?

I listened to a podcast, where the guy who had his job previously, speculated on the different scenarios. Could be a bunch of poo poo really, but he brings up an interesting one I hadnt even thought about. Basically it being revenge for their report and conclusion on the Syrian kids situation leaking, where they concluded it was better for Denmark safety wise to bring the kids of Syrian fighters back to Denmark, than leaving them in Syrian camps as our socialist government wanted in some amazing logic, that equalled being brought to Syria as a kid by their parents, to being traitors to the state.



But the former minister of defence is also charged now so lol.

Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug
It’s pretty wild. If Claus Hjort gets prison I’m gonna start believing in a divine justice of some kind. He is truly the architect behind our current neoliberal nightmare. Basically the Dick Cheney of Denmark, except laser focused on killing the welfare state, rather than people in the middle-east.

Him being charged as well really has me thinking that it must be the NSA getting access to all danish telecom/internet data thing. Despite everyone knowing it probably happens, it’s obviously also extremely illegal without approval in the greater parliament and perhaps even a change in the constitution. Like, it’s extremely cut and dry that of course a couple of random ministers from a random government can’t decide something like that by themselves. It’s not like the US where the president can decide everything without any real process or approval.

There is a huge caveat against that though, and that I can’t see any way the PET would pursue that, let alone bring it before prosecutors and judges. Likewise the social democrats loving love the surveillance state, so they wouldn’t be pushing for it either. The only thing that could unite them is probably some form of racist motive.

E:

Here is Claus Hjorts Wikipedia ‘controversies’. They don’t mention how he said that the unions in Denmark were a ‘colossus on clay feet’ that just need a tiny push to keel over (as they opened up for yellow unions and reduced the tax deduction for union membership etc.). I guess that’s not very controversial really.

In 2009 radio journalist Jesper Tynell won the Cavling Prize for a series of 15 radio spots in DR P1's ”Orientering” showing [the]"minister's less democratic methods". Among the revelations were:

Claus Hjort Frederiksen (as Minister of Employment) gave the parliament false information.
The Minister abolished the requirements to foreign worker safety in dangerous jobs - in secret and outside parliament.
The Ministry asked the municipal administers to rule (the so-called 300-hour rule) in an illegal manner.
The Ministry ordered misleading figures from Arbejdsmarkedsstyrelsen to turn the public debate to their advantage.
Officials deleted incriminating documents from the Ministry's own archives.

Ee: they keep saying the whole thing is about leaking information to the media through, which is very different from the NSA thing.

Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Jan 15, 2022

Esran
Apr 28, 2008
While it would be hilarious if Claus Hjort got locked up, I'd prefer if the intelligence services lost this one. The NSA being allowed to wiretap any communication running through Denmark is probably illegal, and it definitely doesn't help that it's apparently being used by the Americans to spy on nominal allies (e.g. Merkel). What's going on currently seems to be that some people at FE likely leaked the existence of this program to the press due to internal dissatisfaction with said program, and now PET is spraying and praying to try to clamp down on future leaks.

Shortly after the initial leak of the existence of an NSA wiretapping program in DK, Tilsynet med Efterretningstjenesterne said that FE were likely sharing info on Danish citizens with the NSA illegally. This led to a commission. In December, that commission basically concluded with "Nothing to see here, move along" (most of the material is secret, but that's the public summary).

Meanwhile PET put the former FE chief in detention and are currently running a super secret court case against him, where no one can be told what he's charged with. His defense lawyer's apparently trying to get the charges made public, which seems like a weird thing to want unless the charges are something people might be sympathetic to, so probably not leaking info to the Russians or nazis.

PET also recently asked a bunch of the press to come be interrogated, seemingly as an intimidation tactic, and partly to see if they could get someone to spill their sources (Most of the press ignored the summons).

What PET seems to be trying to get Claus Hjort on is that during an interview related to the leak of the NSA wiretapping, he said something to the effect of "If there were a wiretapping agreement, an incoming defense minister would be informed about it early on".

So the NSA wiretapping program doesn't exist, and if it does it's definitely not illegal, but also it's very serious that this very legal fictional program might have been leaked, and PET are trying to nail everyone that might have mentioned anything about it to the wall.

I'd have a hard time feeling good about PET succeeding here, even if this does seem like a fight between assholes.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Any justice provided by the law is entirely incidental anyway, so lock that pig gently caress up and keep him there while his wife croaks.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

i would hope that he gets infinity years in jail and then just goes nuclear and tells everything he knows to some non-bought journalist, that would imo be the bst course of events

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
pretty sure non bought journalists are just shipped out to the US these days

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/hyrorna-i-stockholm-hojs-basta-kompromissen-vi-kunde-forhandla-fram-1

quote:

Hyran är den enda intäkten en fastighetsägare har, så hyran måste kunna bekosta det löpande underhållet, säger han.

Won't someone think of the passive income of the landlords?

Meanwhile my company wasn't able to do raises by end of year so will be back paying it from April. I'm sure a lot are in a similar boat and people are probably lucky to get a 1-2% raise this coming year. On the back of 2 years of 0% raises.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
Lmao my raises were the bare minimum last year and I doubt I’m getting the requisite Amazon gift card for the holidays.

I kvetch about Eskilstuna becoming a future SL stop for all the new pendlar, but goddamn I can’t blame em for moving out here. And to be fair it would be nice to have an SL stop because goddamn Movingo sucks poo poo sometimes. Good to know it’s becoming more privatized!!!!

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
I got a 5% raise but I hadn't gotten one for several years beforehand, except maybe one union mandated one of less than a percent. And I'm in a finnish rural place so my wages are probably peanuts to swedish standards.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Meanwhile, I'm in the sweet spot between IT and management consulting, and I got a decent raise, with barely any negotiation. On top of my way too high pay. It's an amazing system, isn't it? The people with high income get raises, and everyone else get inflation.

I mean, I'm personally happy to get overpaid, but I would really prefer if people like me got taxed more and nurses and teachers and so on got less lovely working conditions instead.

jeebus bob
Nov 4, 2004

Festina lente
The weirdest thing about the Claus Hjort mess is how quickly and forecefully the right wing papers started pushing the narrative that if (or in their words: when) he is found not guilty, the mere fact that he was charged will reflect so poorly on the government - which to the best of my knowledge can not and did not instruct the judiciary to charge anyone with anything - that they will have to resign.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

jeebus bob posted:

The weirdest thing about the Claus Hjort mess is how quickly and forecefully the right wing papers started pushing the narrative that if (or in their words: when) he is found not guilty, the mere fact that he was charged will reflect so poorly on the government - which to the best of my knowledge can not and did not instruct the judiciary to charge anyone with anything - that they will have to resign.

Judiciary doesn't do the charging, but it should come as no surprise that the press exists mainly to cheerlead for their respective parties.

Gedt
Oct 3, 2007

So. I work in Kommunala Hemtjänsten, a coworker who tested covid-pos late last week, showed up yesterday evening at work to show off his new car.

Isnt this a crime against Smittskyddslagen?

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Gedt posted:

So. I work in Kommunala Hemtjänsten, a coworker who tested covid-pos late last week, showed up yesterday evening at work to show off his new car.

Isnt this a crime against Smittskyddslagen?

Considering the lead times for getting your test results now it might also be that the person had been sick for more than a week does thus not need to isolate at home anymore?

Gedt
Oct 3, 2007

He posted pos in a quicktest, start of shift and was sent home. And later to get himself to the hospital for a proper PCR-test. So he shouldve taken that test thur/fri at the latest?

From our planner/groupleaders reaction he posted pos on that too.

Gedt fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Jan 17, 2022

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

I recently had Covid recently, the way it works where I live in Norway, is if you test positive on a quick test you contact your local infenction trackers (? "smittesporere"), they schedule a PCR test for you to confirm and then you are in isolation for at least a week, starting from the day you started showing symptoms (which may have been before you did the quick test). If after that week you do not have a fever, you are out of isolation, and yeah they specifically singled out fever as a symptom for extending isolation, not other symptoms. So I was out on Jan 13, after having tested positive on Jan 7 (confirmed by PCR on Jan 8).

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
Never had to wait on queue to log into 1177.se, so that’s something. At least I booked my third jab, might take the Wednesday off afterwards?

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
third jab brung me low with the fever for a day, after the first two were nothing but a sore arm

Your mileage may vary, but it's not a bad move to take off the day after if possible.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

teen witch posted:

Never had to wait on queue to log into 1177.se, so that’s something. At least I booked my third jab, might take the Wednesday off afterwards?

I had a one minute queue to 1177 today to book my third jab. Oh, nice, there's one place in central Malmö that has available spots this month!

"Central Malmö" = east of Almängen :D

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer

lilljonas posted:

I had a one minute queue to 1177 today to book my third jab. Oh, nice, there's one place in central Malmö that has available spots this month!

"Central Malmö" = east of Almängen :D

Inside inre ringvägen = dowtown

But yeah, I booked my third jab at my vårdcentral (östra sorgenfri) a week ago and their earliest available times were well into February

Beeswax fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jan 17, 2022

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
I’m used to the new Cold War with China but this new retro version is way funnier. Tensions on the Ukrainian border means Russia will invade Gotland.



Anyone worried about a sudden Russian invasion of Sweden in general and Gotland in particular should at least take a look at a map produced after the fall of the Berlin Wall. You don’t exactly have to be von Clausewitz to notice a few obstacles to such a plan.

But I guess the Russians could invade in the north through Finland. It’s not like anyone in Stockholm would notice until Russian troops reached like Gävle.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Oh I'm sure we’d notice.

Care, though?

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Hedenius posted:

I’m used to the new Cold War with China but this new retro version is way funnier. Tensions on the Ukrainian border means Russia will invade Gotland.



Anyone worried about a sudden Russian invasion of Sweden in general and Gotland in particular should at least take a look at a map produced after the fall of the Berlin Wall. You don’t exactly have to be von Clausewitz to notice a few obstacles to such a plan.

But I guess the Russians could invade in the north through Finland. It’s not like anyone in Stockholm would notice until Russian troops reached like Gävle.

I'm pretty sure Sweden is still a non aligned country like Ukraine and that there is literally no country that sits between Sweden and Russia in the Baltic. You can literally draw a straight line from Russian territory to the most populous parts of Sweden without touching other territorial waters. If Russia is out for loving with non aligned neighboring countries to prevent them from joining NATO or whatever then the list is quite short and Sweden is on it. Not that I think that Sweden is on the top of the list but that's not a reason to be a total slacker about that risk.

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
We divert the Russian forces' southward advance through Åre and let covid do the rest

Feliday Melody
May 8, 2021

Fill up Öresund and let the Russian navy rust in the Baltic.


If you live on Gotland, you should be aware that some offroads have been claimed by the military and if you miss the sign on your epa traktor joyride route you will certainly be arrested (happened several times already)

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Feliday Melody posted:

Fill up Öresund and let the Russian navy rust in the Baltic.


If you live on Gotland, you should be aware that some offroads have been claimed by the military and if you miss the sign on your epa traktor joyride route you will certainly be arrested (happened several times already)

LoL I'm sure there's a bunch of Moderater having a lot of internal debate over government overreach vs “are troops”.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Zudgemud posted:

I'm pretty sure Sweden is still a non aligned country like Ukraine and that there is literally no country that sits between Sweden and Russia in the Baltic. You can literally draw a straight line from Russian territory to the most populous parts of Sweden without touching other territorial waters. If Russia is out for loving with non aligned neighboring countries to prevent them from joining NATO or whatever then the list is quite short and Sweden is on it. Not that I think that Sweden is on the top of the list but that's not a reason to be a total slacker about that risk.

Setting aside the fact that Sweden is about as “non aligned” as Florida in practical terms, that straight line goes from St Petersburg to Stockholm. Do you think an amphibious assault on Stockholm launched from St Petersburg is worth worrying about?

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Zudgemud posted:

I'm pretty sure Sweden is still a non aligned country like Ukraine and that there is literally no country that sits between Sweden and Russia in the Baltic. You can literally draw a straight line from Russian territory to the most populous parts of Sweden without touching other territorial waters. If Russia is out for loving with non aligned neighboring countries to prevent them from joining NATO or whatever then the list is quite short and Sweden is on it. Not that I think that Sweden is on the top of the list but that's not a reason to be a total slacker about that risk.
Yeah, Gotland is by far the easiest poo poo to grab in the Baltic. Right next door to a Russian territory that's essentially a military base, with limited risk of prolonged conflict compared to going for mainland Sweden or Finland - in both a military and diplomatic sense.

Plus, when Trump is president again, Denmark and Norway will join in against Sweden in the Great Northern War II.

Hedenius posted:

Setting aside the fact that Sweden is about as “non aligned” as Florida in practical terms, that straight line goes from St Petersburg to Stockholm. Do you think an amphibious assault on Stockholm launched from St Petersburg is worth worrying about?
My man, ever heard of Kaliningrad?

Feliday Melody
May 8, 2021

https://twitter.com/MollerReal/status/1482965477995556870

Somehow, nationalists are the most useless people during a "national" crisis.


Military mobilizes and nationalists just retweet Russian propaganda.


Edit: I know I shouldn't argue with people online. He deleted one of his tweets as a result and blocked me, so win-win,

Feliday Melody fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jan 17, 2022

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Glistrup Doctrine is the only viable approach.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Yeah, Gotland is by far the easiest poo poo to grab in the Baltic. Right next door to a Russian territory that's essentially a military base, with limited risk of prolonged conflict compared to going for mainland Sweden or Finland - in both a military and diplomatic sense.

Plus, when Trump is president again, Denmark and Norway will join in against Sweden in the Great Northern War II.

My man, ever heard of Kaliningrad?
Do you think it’s likely that Russia will launch an invasion of Gotland from Kaliningrad? If I was a Russian military leader I wouldn’t be very comfortable with launching an invasion from an enclave completely surrounded by NATO countries.

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
If Russia and NATO got into exchanging shots of not the vodka variety, Gotland would be a very valuable piece of real estate strategically because Russia wants to dominate the Baltic Sea and its air space to protect Kaliningrad, and at the same time NATO would seek the same to protect the Baltic states.



Gotland would be a really handy base to control the sea from if its current owners forgot to lock the door. Fortunately Sweden has now proven that the door is properly locked up (key is under the "welcome" mat).

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