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aphid_licker posted:No rocket arty, interestingly. How many tubes is an arty bn? Three times 12, so 36ish? Apparently 18 tubes for each BN. So about 54 tubes to a division.
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Danann posted:Apparently 18 tubes for each BN. So about 54 tubes to a division. Wow that's kinda not a lot?
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aphid_licker posted:Wow that's kinda not a lot? what if it's all 10kt warheads
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aphid_licker posted:Wow that's kinda not a lot? There's apparently some field artillery brigades that can add a lot more tubes and rockets to the mix but there's also only like 13 of them and 8 of them are national guard. The forever war did a number on the field artillery branch and it shows.
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i say swears online posted:to be fair the mutiny of the texas state guard would be the most ineffectual revolt in the history of militaries 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Active duty personnel are just as likely to support Ron Paul or Bernie Sanders as much as any explicitly belligerent imperialist - in much greater proportions than the general public. Even if it's only because they don't want to die themselves, they're a lot more anti-war than the average American. Military members having their own personal politics doesn't equate to the military itself having a politics. It's structured to be an instrument of the American government and nothing more. gradenko_2000 posted:it's been about trying to slim down "boots on the ground" based on a post-Vietnam sentiment that part of the thing that caused the US to lose the war was that the people at home saw too many dead bodies BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 03:20 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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pancake rabbit posted:https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1483560487145164808 
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:my impression is the military definitely has kool-aid drinkers but there's also a lot of "ha ha i'm in the military" jaded and bitter cynicism, and those troops can be quite funny yeah troops aren't that political but the ones that are are grouped into anti-war libertarians, anti-war socialists, and chuds, with varying amounts depending on the service. navy most left wing, marines most right wing, which, heh that's for enlisted. the officers are all libs or mormons the air force is the most outright religious. nondenom christian or mormon, your choice edit i swiped a digicam yalmulke in basic, added it to my Fun Hats collection
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:rough approximation of current CSG deployments Only six? That's not a lot lol
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gradenko_2000 posted:Only six? That's not a lot lol
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So 5 amphibious assault ships left port today. With the other two near the Philippines, that's most of them. But if world war 3 were about to start, you would expect there to not only be 4 out of 11 fleet carriers at sea.
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A Russian troll farm posted:So 5 amphibious assault ships left port today. With the other two near the Philippines, that's most of them. But if world war 3 were about to start, you would expect there to not only be 4 out of 11 fleet carriers at sea. 3 are on maintenance. The George HW Bush and the George Washington are in the Atlantic certifying pilots on the F35 and probably readying to deploy. Nimitz is going to port. Gerald Ford is due back from maintenance next month maybe.
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skooma512 posted:3 are on maintenance. The George HW Bush and the George Washington are in the Atlantic certifying pilots on the F35 and probably readying to deploy. Nimitz is going to port. Gerald Ford is due back from maintenance next month maybe. You seem like you're pretty up on things. Is over half the amphibious assault ship fleet leaving port in a single day a normal thing, or is it a harbinger of a Great Kerfuffle?
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A Russian troll farm posted:You seem like you're pretty up on things. Is over half the amphibious assault ship fleet leaving port in a single day a normal thing, or is it a harbinger of a Great Kerfuffle? It doesn’t mean too much if they’re empty (don’t have marines, Helos, jets, and landing craft onboard) which they likely are if they haven’t gone to pick up their marines at Pendleton or North Carolina - they are likely just going out for local ops and unit training after the long (MLK day) weekend.
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I saw some boomers leaving Bremerton earlier sailing out of puget sound. That's not an uncommon occurrence here by any means, and you always know because they raise the drawbridges for navy deployments, but yeah. Looks like things are heating up
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Xeom posted:got any good reading on this ? I'm not aware of anything that ties the whole theory together, that special forces are like "death squads for people who shoot back." Douglas Valentine's book on the Phoenix Program is a good place to start. https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Program-Douglas-Valentine/dp/1504032888 Every time the US gets involved in a war where we're occupying a foreign country, we end up resorting to measures pioneered by Phoenix. I was tempted to bring up Petraeus training Shia death squads in Iraq to deal with the Sunni problem in Baghdad, but that's more in the tradition of The Jakarta Method than special forces.
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A Russian troll farm posted:You seem like you're pretty up on things. Is over half the amphibious assault ship fleet leaving port in a single day a normal thing, or is it a harbinger of a Great Kerfuffle? I just summarized what I found online. Could be they’re going to the Mediterranean, could be the Pacific. It’s definitely a show of force.
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Usually, most larger navies have 1/3rd of their ships in maintenance, 1/3rd of their ships at dock/transit, and 1/3 undergoing deployment. Also, the US really only has a 10 carrier navy since the Ford still isn’t ready for actual combat deployment, 3 out of 10 carriers deployed is about right with the Nimitz returning to port. —— The Navy has been pushing its ships hard the last couple years as a continual show of force versus Russia and China. It doesn’t mean that there will be actual conflict. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 09:07 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:rough approximation of current CSG deployments you can tell they're REALLY afraid of Russia invading Ukraine any day now lol
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:you can tell they're REALLY afraid of Russia invading Ukraine any day now lol
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gradenko_2000 posted:more from "About Face" this poo poo is extremely interesting and please keep posting it
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Bar Ran Dun posted:nothing said in this thread, isn’t something I’ve heard either from other officers or while I was at the academy literally as a class discussion topics. as a citizen of a former colonial state that has never waged a single war in its short history, my hands are squeaky clean
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm not aware of anything that ties the whole theory together, that special forces are like "death squads for people who shoot back." was looking at this book and lmao 
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Feldegast42 posted:And now the M16 (well, the AR-15 civilian counterpart) is worshipped as a religious relic by half the country lol Later versions of it were better but it is a bit overrated especially if you start pushing it under certain conditions (it doesn’t do well with frost).
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I thought all the issues with the M16/M4 in Vietnam were related to the ammunition primer and soldiers believing it never had to be cleaned. With those issues resolved, I thought the M16/M4 were considered quality weapons that perform well in Iraq/Afghanistan. Is that not the case?
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The m16/m4 are high maintenance firearms, in low intensity occupations with professional soldiers, this is fine but it much more of an issue when things get more chaotic (also the dust cover is still an issue). And yeah, it still sucks in cold climates. Either way, the US Army is looking at moving away from direct impingement and 5.56. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 18:10 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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GrunkleStalin posted:I thought all the issues with the M16/M4 in Vietnam were related to the ammunition primer and soldiers believing it never had to be cleaned. This is the case, the M16/M4 platform is perfectly fine now. I wouldn't say it requires any more or less maintanence than any other service rifle. The new rifle trials will be interesting to watch, they want to move more towards a high-pressure battle rifle-esque cartridge yet mitigate the recoil and muzzle blast associated with them. I think one or two proposals involve giving every single rifle an integral suppressor even. Justin Tyme has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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