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StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
It's not even cold, they can reheat it, it's just not ~~~fresh off the griddle~~~ or whatever

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Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
You guys are all weirdos. But that lady is too. Just sleep in BOZO

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

When I was a teen I would get up, eat, go back to sleep. They're welcome to do that as well.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
drat this divided the thread like nothing recently

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Tarkus posted:

When I was a teen I would get up, eat, go back to sleep. They're welcome to do that as well.

Yeah it doesn't actually say she tries to wake them up. Just makes the breakfast and expects them to be up.

Catzilla
May 12, 2003

"Untie the queen"


Manzoon posted:

There was an old sci-fi book with an extremely realistic premise of a ship going to investigate an asteroid approaching the earth that appeared to be one solid giant diamond, and there was a saboteur onboard hired by DeBeers. Wish I could remember the book title.

It was one of the sequels to 2001: A Space Odyssey, the third one I think.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Come on guys, you're ruining National Tin Can Day.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc
I don't want to participate in National Tin Can Day unless I know my tin cans are fresh and piping hot.

kdrudy
Sep 19, 2009

Breakfast mom is doing nothing wrong.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

muscles like this! posted:

Yeah it doesn't actually say she tries to wake them up. Just makes the breakfast and expects them to be up.

I would smell the food, hear noise and go fill my belly. I don't feel sorry for the kids. I know for many here there are two states of maturity, childhood and adulthood but there is a third. It's called adolescence. During adolescence we give the person more responsibilities and greater freedoms typically. They are free to set an alarm and get up for breakfast and they are free to wake up later and eat cold food. This is the freedom and choice they are given and it's a fair one to impose on adolescents.

Pleads
Jun 9, 2005

pew pew pew


Lot of entitled teenagers in this thread, wow!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
If you get up at 5AM and it's not for work you are clinically insane sorry

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
Lol these posts about how she's a bad mom for not being a kitchen slave pair really good with goons who complain about men not being able to fend for themselves and marrying a second mommy.

Shithouse Dave
Aug 5, 2007

each post manufactured to the highest specifications


CitizenKain posted:

Oh, wasn't aware being a parent ended then.

Check out the guy whose mom was here-comes-the-airplane-ing him in his 20s

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON

muscles like this! posted:

Yeah it doesn't actually say she tries to wake them up. Just makes the breakfast and expects them to be up.

She doesn't expect them to be up. She just expects them to be able to warm up leftovers whenever they do get up. Which is totally reasonable. Or they could ask her to wake them up when the food is fresh, but instead they went to wanting her to wait to eat.

The onus is on the kids here, not the mom. This is where the whole 'teens are still kids' thing gets tricky. Yes they're not adults, but it's past the age of mom doting on their every meal. Another goon rightly pointed out that this stage is adolescence, not childhood. At this point, they're supposed to be practicing the habit-building of feeding themselves meals so they can be used to it by the time they reach adulthood. You don't just....baby bird to them all their food until 18 and then drop them on their asses.

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jan 19, 2022

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Tarkus posted:

I would smell the food, hear noise and go fill my belly. I don't feel sorry for the kids. I know for many here there are two states of maturity, childhood and adulthood but there is a third. It's called adolescence. During adolescence we give the person more responsibilities and greater freedoms typically. They are free to set an alarm and get up for breakfast and they are free to wake up later and eat cold food. This is the freedom and choice they are given and it's a fair one to impose on adolescents.

Yeah, at some point you need to learn basic self sufficiency. 16/14 is more than old enough. Otherwise you end up with the kid who enters college not knowing how to do laundry or boil water.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Like my brother-in-law who honestly thought he could leave his laundry outside the door of his college dorm to be returned washed and folded and was loving shocked when it just disappeared instead.

Involuntary Sparkle
Aug 12, 2004

Chemo-kitties can have “accidents” too!

I woke up around 8-9am on the weekends as a teenager, but then I've been a nerd since birth.

My mom was always pissed off that I "slept in" that late but she was one of those diary-reading, bedroom-door-lock-reversing type of parent, so not a good barometer.

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer

Funktastic posted:

AITA for making breakfast way before my kids wake up?

...casserole? For breakfast?

Chloe Jessica
Nov 6, 2021
Pick 2.0
yeah, yall are right. it's totally reasonable to expect them to reheat their food.

i just knee-jerked the opposite way because Saturday morning breakfast was an important tradition in my family; for a while, my dad was working third shift, and he'd bring home Hardee's sausage gravy biscuits every Saturday morning when he got off work. a lot of the time, that was the only time we got to really see him, because he was usually asleep when we got home from school and he wouldn't be back from work yet when we got up to leave.

i allowed my personal experience to color my reaction to the situation, and that was wrong, because my personal experience isn't relevant to theirs.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Like my brother-in-law who honestly thought he could leave his laundry outside the door of his college dorm to be returned washed and folded and was loving shocked when it just disappeared instead.

lmao

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

Split a grapefruit after your jog, and have breakfast a family. Most parents would be delighted if their teenagers wanted to share a meal, so make the effort.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Why does crack o dawn pancake mom not just cook for herself and then leave the batter for the kids to cook fresh pcakes for themselves later?

If they are too dumb/lazy to fry a drat pancake or two, then they are idiots.

The Bramble
Mar 16, 2004

Breakfast mom won't be earning many tips with her attitude.

Manzoon
Oct 12, 2005

ALPHASTRIKE!!!

Catzilla posted:

It was one of the sequels to 2001: A Space Odyssey, the third one I think.

Thanks! Yeah I just looked it up from that, 2061: Odyssey Three. Trying google search strings wasn't coming up with much, not sure if DeBeers is actually named or just heavily implied from the description of the book.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


AITA for getting poop on my SIL's face and then deciding not to tell her about it?

quote:

My (24f) SIL (31f) is visiting me with my nephew (7m).

I’m not the biggest fan of SIL. She’s a bit controlling and, because of our age gap, tends to think she can be controlling with me. I mostly ignore her, but I adore nephew. And he adores my dog. George is a Siberian Husky, so he’s pretty big and can be pretty energetic.

George and nephew hit it off instantly, and wore each other out by getting up to a lot of stupid dog stuff and a lot of stupid kid stuff. I had a lot of fun watching.

Yesterday, when I wanted to take George for walk, nephew wanted to come too. I was a bit worried because while George is fine when he’s at home, he’s more of a handful on walks. He wants to investigate everything and pulls on his leash. I can handle him fine but adding nephew to the mix would be more stressful.

Before I could answer, SIL said that was a great idea and that she would come too.

Since I wouldn’t have to look after nephew, I thought why not. We walked to the park. Nephew started to look a little bored while George was taking care of business and asked if he could walk George on the way home. I told him no.

As an adult, I can handle George, but nephew is a child. If George wants to go somewhere and nephew has the leash, they’re both going. If George gets excited and wants to bolt at something, nephew’s probably getting dragged on the ground. I explained this.

While I picked up after George, nephew started whining about how he could do it, and SIL said to just let him. I still said no, repeating my concerns. SIL said it would be fine and that I was exaggerating George’s behavior (he’d been docile this walk). I chose to ignore her, but nephew kept begging. SIL was annoyed.

I don’t know what possessed her next, but she grabbed the leash. I leaned back and twisted my body to keep away from her, but since she already had her hand on the leash, she was pulled down and forward. As I was twisting, my other hand (the one with George’s poo bag) swung towards SIL’s head. I managed to stop before accidentally hitting her, but forward momentum meant that the bag decided to grace her face with its presence.

Everyone stopped for a moment, and then she screamed. I couldn’t help laughing a bit, making her think I did it on purpose. She called me an entitled bitch. As I calmed George (who was barking), I noticed a tiny brown stain on her cheek. Apparently, the poo bag had a tear in it. I was going mention it, but when SIL kept cussing at and interrupting me, I decided not to.

She grabbed nephew and stormed off. SIL didn’t notice that she had poop on her face until after everyone got home (the stain was light enough not to feel and because of recent world health issues, SIL has been nose blind for a couple months). When she did notice, she cussed at me again before washing her face so much that it almost started to bleed.

At this point I started to feel like a bit of an rear end, and when my brother called to yell at me later, I felt even worse.

AITA?

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Like my brother-in-law who honestly thought he could leave his laundry outside the door of his college dorm to be returned washed and folded and was loving shocked when it just disappeared instead.

Beautiful.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
Getting up at 5am on a weekend in order to have more time to do self imposed chores, and one of those is making breakfast for people who aren't up so it can be passive aggressively left cold for them because they're not up as early as she thinks they should be. She could easily just not make breakfast for them.

El Spamo
Aug 21, 2003

Fuss and misery
Give me your dog!

Nope. Lmao, owned.

Squashing Machine
Jul 5, 2005

I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka
It's kind of weird that breakfast mom is framing cooking for her kids on the weekend as a "favor." Like, teens can be little shits and you don't have to baby them forever, but it's not unreasonable for them to want to sleep in on the weekend. Just don't make food that's going to get wasted?

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Tsaedje posted:

Getting up at 5am on a weekend in order to have more time to do self imposed chores, and one of those is making breakfast for people who aren't up so it can be passive aggressively left cold for them because they're not up as early as she thinks they should be. She could easily just not make breakfast for them.

Lol this is pretty much what my dad did to me on weekends in highschool and when I visited in college. Joke was on him for trying too hard and accidentally creating delicious breakfast burritos that heated up great when I wanted lunch.

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard

Chloe Jessica posted:

i just knee-jerked the opposite way because Saturday morning breakfast was an important tradition in my family; for a while, my dad was working third shift, and he'd bring home Hardee's sausage gravy biscuits every Saturday morning when he got off work. a lot of the time, that was the only time we got to really see him

What's up fellow limited time dad-haver. Growing up, my dad worked and slept. That's pretty much it. He was up for work way before dawn, got home between 7 and 9pm, he'd eat a meal while staring off into space then go to bed. Friday night same, sleep till 3 or 5pm Saturday, eat a meal while staring into space, maybe mow the lawn or something, then back to bed. Sunday wake up, church, come home, nap till dinner, eat, in bed at 8.

My perception of the teenager breakfast story was of leaving kids out of a major family activity over a matter of scheduling. If my dad had made breakfast on a weekend and I found out I'd slept through it I would have been crushed. There were precious loving few opportunities to spend time with my dad.

Like Chloe Jessica I think my personal lived experience over-colored my perceptions of the OP's family. There's nothing wrong with leaving some food for the kids in the fridge.

vonnegutt
Aug 7, 2006
Hobocamp.

spincube posted:

...casserole? For breakfast?

Y'all don't have breakfast casserole where you're from? There's a lot of different kinds but most involve some kind of egg and potato product. There's also strata which is like savory French toast, so egg and bread. Hash brown casserole is pretty basic but you can get really involved adding sausage, peppers, cheese, etc.

It's also extremely re-heatable like all casseroles. I'm on team Mom Cooks When She Feels Like It and Teens Can Figure it Out.

Probably because I was expected to help in the kitchen from as soon as I could stand up and by age 12 was expected to completely cook one meal a week for the family. I had to look through a cookbook, choose a main dish and sides, and add the ingredients to the grocery list on Sunday. Then on Thursday I was expected to prepare dinner. I always made enchiladas. By the time I was in high school, Mom had delegated 3 nights to us kids.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


vonnegutt posted:

Probably because I was expected to help in the kitchen from as soon as I could stand up and by age 12 was expected to completely cook one meal a week for the family. I had to look through a cookbook, choose a main dish and sides, and add the ingredients to the grocery list on Sunday. Then on Thursday I was expected to prepare dinner. I always made enchiladas. By the time I was in high school, Mom had delegated 3 nights to us kids.

How did this work for you growing up? Did you resent it? Do you feel like it made you more confident and able to actually feed yourself as an adult?

vonnegutt
Aug 7, 2006
Hobocamp.

poisonpill posted:

How did this work for you growing up? Did you resent it? Do you feel like it made you more confident and able to actually feed yourself as an adult?

I think it was a good system, I'm very at home in the kitchen and can cook anything from an involved Thanksgiving dinner to an easy weeknight meal for one. I save a lot of money compared with friends because I don't buy a lot of takeout or prepared food items.

Downsides: I am so sick of enchiladas

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



I called CPS on my mom at age 17 because she made dinner at 6:15 when she knew that’s my “me” time and it was cold by the time I came downstairs.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
love the consistent interpretation that cooking enough to leave for your kids to heat up later is 'wasting' food

wut

food not being warm doesn't mean it's wasted

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

N/M

kdrudy
Sep 19, 2009

Tsaedje posted:

Getting up at 5am on a weekend in order to have more time to do self imposed chores, and one of those is making breakfast for people who aren't up so it can be passive aggressively left cold for them because they're not up as early as she thinks they should be. She could easily just not make breakfast for them.

Again, her and her husband eat too.

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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Serephina posted:

There are people who have it worse than you:

My wife [28F] thinks every situation is a zero-sum game against her which keeps her from being happy

wanted to post this extremely depressing addition. the guy's really been desperate for help for years

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