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Abner Assington posted:… Blankets? I think he's trying to talk about the New Year's Eve celebration, which was an endless hell of crowds and freezing even before covid. Blankets and empty bottles were popular accessories
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Abner Assington posted:… Blankets? Ain't like they're turning on the heat in the projects.
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haveblue posted:I think he's trying to talk about the New Year's Eve celebration, which was an endless hell of crowds and freezing and no bathrooms even before covid I was very confused about that too, but I think you're right and it's a reference to the Times Square New Years Eve crowds being covered in blankets and scarves. Especially since it was around NYE when it happened. Willa Rogers posted:I would've pegged the three as: Yeah, I mostly agree with you and think the Politico retrospective is very pundit-brained. Anyone who seriously argues that deciding to pull out of Afghanistan is what turned 55% of the country against Biden is in a bubble. I'd just argue that #3 is more bad political strategy/trying to stay positive on messaging rather than something that actually sunk his agenda. It seems like a messaging reaction to his agenda being stalled rather than something that stalled the agenda itself. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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...the staypuft marshmallow man attacked NYC because someone built a locus of evil in Manhattan that allowed an elder god entry into our world, Eric. That's not exactly a selling point
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paranoid randroid posted:...the staypuft marshmallow man attacked NYC because someone built a locus of evil in Manhattan that allowed an elder god entry into our world, Eric. That's not exactly a selling point Also, and most importantly, it did not attack the empire state building
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paranoid randroid posted:...the staypuft marshmallow man attacked NYC because someone built a locus of evil in Manhattan that allowed an elder god entry into our world, Eric. That's not exactly a selling point King Kong, Ghosts, and Thanos all attacked New York because it is too awesome. quote:"Our very strength invites challenge. Challenge incites conflict." - NYC Mayor Eric Adams. Although, Adams also says it is too boring in NYC right now. So, that seems to imply that he is pursing a policy of attracting ape, specter, and alien-related catastrophes to NYC. Giving Colbert fake weed on TV seems like a copout too. If the purpose of giving him the blunt and fake weed was to celebrate NYC having legal weed, then give actual weed. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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Have to say, after 2020-21 being the years of Fuckhead Mayors between Garcetti, deBlasio, Wheeler and Lightfoot, im very much digging 2022 giving us the loving Weirdo Mayor in Adams
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# ? Jan 19, 2022 20:28 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Politico's National White House Correspondent has penned their first year retrospective of the Biden Presidency (and one of the national politics writers for the New York Times is promoting it). Pundit lust for the death of Afghans remains strong.
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# ? Jan 19, 2022 20:36 |
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If Bernie won and pulled out of Afghanistan, he would have been impeached immediately right?
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# ? Jan 19, 2022 20:39 |
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punishedkissinger posted:If Bernie won and pulled out of Afghanistan, he would have been impeached immediately right? Depends on who the vice president was.
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# ? Jan 19, 2022 20:50 |
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Blaming Biden for people refusing to get vaccinated is some Galaxy brain poo poo
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# ? Jan 19, 2022 20:51 |
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Sinema opposes the talking filibuster because it "creates gimmicks" and opportunities to exploit loopholes instead of forcing people to come together to get something that has 60 votes. That means instead of voting rights being very likely dead, it is definitely dead. Politico says that the White House had a call with members of Congress after this news where they: - Begged certain members to stop publicly trashing the party's legislative agenda, reduce the amount of public infighting, and to communicate before votes what their preferences are to avoid embarrassing last minute failures for nominees and legislation. - Asked members to hype up the more than $3 trillion in additional spending they already passed this year and point to concrete projects funded by them. Which sounds like they have basically thrown up their hands at getting anything new done through congress and are just trying to engage in damage control with Sinema, Manchin, and 5-6 house members and put the best face forward on existing accomplishments before the midterms. Pretty grim.
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Abner Assington posted:… Blankets? Lotta homeless people in NYC. As far as Biden and Afghanistan goes, it's difficult to county it as a win when the images people have of it are mobs of Afghans trying to get on Air Force transports at Kabul International, and literally some of the same helicopters that evacuated Saigon being used to evacuate Kabul. Especially when the deadline for the pull out was extended several months past what the previous administration had agreed to. Was there ever going to be a happy ending to US involvement in Afghanistan? No, but politics is about optics, and given how the US is treating those Afghan refugees that did make it out, it doesn't feel like a triumph.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, I mostly agree with you and think the Politico retrospective is very pundit-brained. Anyone who seriously argues that deciding to pull out of Afghanistan is what turned 55% of the country against Biden is in a bubble. I'd just argue that #3 is more bad political strategy/trying to stay positive on messaging rather than something that actually sunk his agenda. It seems like a messaging reaction to his agenda being stalled rather than something that stalled the agenda itself. Politico's had some spicy ones today. It's not worth dissecting in the news thread, but the opinion piece from Jack Shafer about how Biden's totally gonna bounce back is a doozy. And they just put out an article about messaging from the White House that includes quite the zinger regarding the infrastructure/BBB decoupling fight. quote:The White House is working to sell frustrated House Democrats on a simple pre-midterms pitch: Stop focusing on what hasn't gotten done yet and start touting the two big bills the party has passed so far. Bit of the story left out there, Politico writers.
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# ? Jan 19, 2022 21:02 |
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Jarmak posted:If you water down "part of a political family" to "liked by a political family" you're really not saying anything anymore. It's just a cute way of stating the astoundingly obvious fact that it's hard to become leader of the country without being liked by at least some of the people that currently hold political power. 'Favored functionary of a family with kingmaking power who they can expect to execute their policy agenda' doesn't roll off the tongue.
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By November of this year no one is going to remember what Biden passed in the first half of 2021.
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World Famous W posted:Yep. Been working through the whole pandemic (and most my life before it) doimg food service and it's really drives home how disposable we are viewed as Same here. I've heard rumblings of Starbucks unionization and there are select grocery store unions here or there but it feels to me the only way service will get any respect in this country is if they work under a single service union, grocers, waiters, cooks, and retail workers, get in here.
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# ? Jan 19, 2022 21:06 |
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This poo poo infuriates the hell out of me since I waited tables for 5 years after I graduated with my BS in Software Engineering, and I've dealt with this attitude directly. Wage and intelligence are not directly correlated. idgaf if his full message is that these types of people need more financial assistance (honestly don't know, assuming best case). Just because you work a minimum wage job doesn't mean that you're an idiot and incapable of anything better, and he shouldn't be using that messaging even if his intention was to help (again, assuming best case).
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PeterCat posted:By November of this year no one is going to remember what Biden passed in the first half of 2021. There was a poll from August that showed that two thirds of people didn't remember that stimulus checks were sent out in April. So, it is already well past that time.
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StratGoatCom posted:'Favored functionary of a family with kingmaking power who they can expect to execute their policy agenda' doesn't roll off the tongue. I believe the term most appropriate here is 'Manchurian candidate'.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Blaming Biden for people refusing to get vaccinated is some Galaxy brain poo poo Who has done this? I scanned the last couple pages & didn't see anything; can you please link the post (or outside news) to which you're directing this remark?
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Velocity Raptor posted:This poo poo infuriates the hell out of me since I waited tables for 5 years after I graduated with my BS in Software Engineering, and I've dealt with this attitude directly. Wage and intelligence are not directly correlated. From 'Essential Workers' to 'Unskilled Labor' in record time.
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Velocity Raptor posted:This poo poo infuriates the hell out of me since I waited tables for 5 years after I graduated with my BS in Software Engineering, and I've dealt with this attitude directly. Wage and intelligence are not directly correlated. I looked up the context and it is even more baffling. He was trying to argue that businesses needed to invest in more downtown real estate and offices because the people who work at businesses that cater to those offices aren't able to work remotely and depend on the income from those sales can't just work from home. You can see how he logically ended up there, but the outcome was like he was attempting to construct the worst possible take on a reasonable problem. quote:Adams urged larger businesses such as those to encourage their employees to come into their New York offices at least a few days a week in order to support those toiling at smaller operations that rely on commuters.
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Willa Rogers posted:Who has done this? Seems like a reaction to Leon's reference to "Being too aggressive with vaccinations, which turned it into a political issue and caused 30% of the U.S. to refuse to get vaccinated". Which, btw, I don't see anywhere in the article in question either.
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^^^ Ah, I see; that makes sense! (Your explanation, not Leon's interpretive dance of the story.)PeterCat posted:By November of this year no one is going to remember what Biden passed in the first half of 2021. It's pretty obvious by this point that this is a messaging campaign being rolled out to sympathetic media to echo, both nationally & locally. But just lol at their touting a pandemic-relief bill that has mostly expired, and hoping to get voters excited about newly paved streets & newly repaired bridges to come--because paving streets & fixing bridges are what working governments do, or are supposed to do, not some spectacular New New Deal. The old ceiling/floor problem, except that Democrats are intent on telling people they're walking on the ceiling & convinced it's a winning political tactic. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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eviltastic posted:Seems like a reaction to Leon's reference to "Being too aggressive with vaccinations, which turned it into a political issue and caused 30% of the U.S. to refuse to get vaccinated". The author casts Biden's agenda of uniting the country and getting everyone vaccinated as "in opposition to" President Trump and part of his effort to "go big" with his agenda in the same vein as his spending policies. quote:One year ago, President Joe Biden stood in front of a U.S. Capitol that still bore the wounds of an insurrectionist siege, taking the oath of office at a time when the nation faced its greatest array of crises in nearly a century. quote:Winning the White House on his third try, Biden took the helm of a nation worn down by the pandemic, which had claimed hundreds of thousands of American lives and reshaped the norms of everyday life. Trump’s combative term ended with a refusal to accept the results of the election, his torrent of lies igniting a deadly riot at the nation’s Capitol. quote:Biden declared that America could have faith in its government again, as he sought to turn down the temperature in a Washington overheated by his predecessor, Donald Trump. And then notes that those unvaccinated people drove the delta deaths (and also weirdly ties in the unvaccinated dying with Afghanistan): quote:Only weeks after Biden used July 4 to declare America’s independence from the Covid virus, the lethal and highly transmissible Delta variant deluged the nation, preying largely on the unvaccinated to send death totals and hospitalizations soaring. Then the world watched in horror as the United States’ withdrawal from Afghanistan was filled with images of tumult and violence.
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Another Politico piece; this one points out how Dems have been asleep at the wheel in reaching out to Latino voters:quote:According to a spreadsheet shared with POLITICO — assembled out of frustration by the super PAC, which favored more Spanish-language ads — Democratic groups combined to spend almost $5 million in English-language ads in California’s 39th Congressional District, and not a cent on Spanish-language ads. But another Latino strategist falls back on that old Dem standby of "We've just been too modest in promoting our achievements!" quote:“The irony here is Democrats have been really responsive to the economy, but nobody knows about it and that’s a problem,” Ramos said. “To the degree with which Democrats can talk about the fact that they’ve created a lot of jobs unambiguously and are helping workers and families, that’s a great message in English and Spanish.” https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/18/dems-latino-midterm-527265
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Here's a nightmare piece about a small Alabama town that is now being targeted by the Justice Department because they - just like in Ferguson - were using fines and tickets to fund 49% of the entire city budget and were sending people out to collect as much revenue as possible to horrific results. Eventually, the town with less than 1,300 people was securing $1.2 million in fines per year and issuing over 3,000 arrests and tickets per year. It got so bad, that even the tough on crime local DAs were begging the police and Mayor to stop because it seemed cruel and may have been increasing crime. The Mayor sounds like a sociopath and the things the city was seizing (and using the proceeds from the things they seized) are wild. The cherry on top is that so many people were going to court contesting their tickets that police had to direct traffic at the courthouse and some people got fined for parking on the grass. It's pretty long, but the details are insane and this is a great example of the importance of local journalism. quote:Police in this tiny Alabama town suck drivers into legal ‘black hole’ https://www.al.com/news/2022/01/police-in-this-tiny-alabama-town-suck-drivers-into-legal-black-hole.html Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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i think its pretty clear that those officers just need more training
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The author casts Biden's agenda of uniting the country and getting everyone vaccinated as "in opposition to" President Trump and part of his effort to "go big" with his agenda in the same vein as his spending policies. Yes, the article definitely finds fault with Biden for declaring victory right before Delta hit and killed lots of people, mostly unvaccinated. But it doesn't say a word about vaccination choice, and only speaks about vaccine availability when it comes to Biden's actions with respect to the shot. And the two times it does that, it's in glowing terms. It doesn't make the claim that Biden made a mistake by politicizing the vaccine, or attempt to link the administration's messaging or actions to people choosing not to get the shot.
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So I see that things are still the same and no one in the Democratic party is helping themselves and a lot of people are going to go down screaming (but unheard) when Reagan 3.0 comes along in 2024. Fantastic.
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Just force the loving vote Chuck, if they vote it down at least you can say you did SOMETHING to try good loving God this is so unbelievably frustrating
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If Dems are seriously planning to run on that tiny infrastructure bill, they might as well just turn over Congress now and save everyone the trouble
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StratGoatCom posted:'Favored functionary of a family with kingmaking power who they can expect to execute their policy agenda' doesn't roll off the tongue. "Kingmaker" isn't how I would describe someone who failed to run for president twice and who's "favored functionary" couldn't even win the primary.
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FlamingLiberal posted:If Dems are seriously planning to run on that tiny infrastructure bill, they might as well just turn over Congress now and save everyone the trouble My worry is whether you'd get to a 2/3 GOP majority so Congress could start overriding Biden vetoes.
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Eric Cantonese posted:My worry is whether you'd get to a 2/3 GOP majority so Congress could start overriding Biden vetoes.
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Eric Cantonese posted:My worry is whether you'd get to a 2/3 GOP majority so Congress could start overriding Biden vetoes. Just kramering in here to say that is mathematically impossible, so no need to broach that particular fear just yet
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Jarmak posted:"Kingmaker" isn't how I would describe someone who failed to run for president twice and who's "favored functionary" couldn't even win the primary. That's because they went and loosened the leash on the proles a bit too much and now they're trying to pull back on the slack. They want it to go back to the "smoky backroom deals" that they are absolutely legally allowed to do, but they want to make sure that it's a case of them letting us have their way, instead of just doing it outright and risking any significant backlash. First comes the vote scolding, how refusing to vote for the "right" person as outlined by allied media outlets makes you complicit in being a nazi lover who wants to let Republicans take control for generations to come. Add that to poo poo like Pelosi's attempt to protect centrist-approved incumbents by threatening to withhold funding from anyone who dares try to primary a chosen one (but letting it slide if you primary someone not on their Good List), and you can see the beginning of the track they're trying to get things on. They're trying to gradually kill off the idea that some rando can work their way up from the bottom and usurp a position far above their station, and get back to where your choices in the primary are between only leadership approved candidates while telling us that they're the ones we chose.
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Eric Cantonese posted:My worry is whether you'd get to a 2/3 GOP majority so Congress could start overriding Biden vetoes. Republicans would have to win Senate races in WA, OR, CA, IL, NY, CT, and MD, plus all the remotely close swing states. They'd also need to win quite a few very blue House districts. Biden could take a poo poo on the American flag on live TV and Congress would still be short of a 2/3 GOP majority.
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Manchin explaining why he’ll never support getting rid of the filibuster at the same time Biden is on TV explaining that that the dang ole GOP has hornswoggled him and he didn’t see it coming. Hell of an act.
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