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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

papa horny michael posted:

I think Trump would have withdrawn by the date house team negotiated, and hosed it up less than Biden.

at this point the more relevant question is whether trump would have tried to starve the afghan people to death out of spite once the withdrawal was finished

my guess is yes but he would have stopped when attacked on it because for some mysterious reason no one cares about our crimes against humanity when theyre being committed by a democrat

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Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

yeah, but how many former presidents are going to sit at biden's funeral versus bernie's

that's the only thing these ghouls care about

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
trump’s extremely stupid press secretaries were also much funnier than jen psaki thinking she’s a cool sarcastic girlboss

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

DoubleDonut posted:

trump’s extremely stupid press secretaries were also much funnier than jen psaki thinking she’s a cool sarcastic girlboss

psaki herself is just a boring liar, it's the liberal twittersphere that has elevated her into mythical girlboss status for the most part iirc

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

unless her boring lies were an actual attempt at girlbossery, in which case oh

oh wow

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Some Guy TT posted:

at this point the more relevant question is whether trump would have tried to starve the afghan people to death out of spite once the withdrawal was finished

my guess is yes but he would have stopped when attacked on it because for some mysterious reason no one cares about our crimes against humanity when theyre being committed by a democrat

Trump would have launched one last drone strike that ends up killing an aid worker and his family.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.


Iran-Contra, the invasion of Panama, Desert Storm, the Balkan conflicts, end of the Cold War?

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

Yinlock posted:

psaki herself is just a boring liar, it's the liberal twittersphere that has elevated her into mythical girlboss status for the most part iirc

the mocking reporters about free tests was absolutely her huffing her own farts

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1484282392252665858
Well earned break!!

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


One of the meanest observations about Americans you can make is that Congress has an over 5% approval rating.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010


Yeah but which one is friends with the guy that forces primaries his own way?

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
A "Psaki Bomb" is when you say something snarky, then within a couple of days have to take it back and do the opposite.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Chillgamesh posted:

lol bernie but also lol that they didnt put bernie on this

Bernie lost, hun. Why put a loser in the poll? :xd:

OMG Hillary is trending up, #stillwithher let's go 2024!!!! :swoon:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

PeterCat posted:

Iran-Contra, the invasion of Panama, Desert Storm, the Balkan conflicts, end of the Cold War?

also 9/11 was over 20 years ago

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/revolvingdoorDC/status/1484269579933302793

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

hobbesmaster posted:

also 9/11 was over 20 years ago

Technically. I take 20 years ago to mean 2000 till now.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

How to judge that, with Jen Reardon

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

I thought this was literally the one thing he'd prevent

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)

Fly Molo posted:

oh most definitely. gonna lmao very hard when the republicans gut the filibuster (there will be no repeat McCain-Obamacare moment) and pack the supreme court.

centrist dems: "but... why??"
republicans: "lol get hosed commie"

If anything I wasn't being ambitious enough. The funniest thing would be if Republicans got rid of the filibuster, passed everything they wanted, then re-implemented the filibuster before a losing election cycle.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


https://twitter.com/perpetual_husky/status/1484277805252636673?s=20

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

sexpig by night posted:

I thought this was literally the one thing he'd prevent

it's not bipartisan to say anyone with a FedSoc membership is barred from being nominated

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017



lol what the gently caress!

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

SKULL.GIF posted:

lol what the gently caress!

:champ:

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

This guy sucks.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG
For better or worse, people like that are electorally important. Only about 12% of voters are true swing voters, but Biden won by 5% in 2020 and smaller margins in individual states, so if you are losing the bulk of that 12%, then that is a problem.

It's also one of those situations where it is hard to get non-political people to give detailed assessments about politics, but non-political people are also the majority of voters and it's a lot more informative to dig deeper into peoples' beliefs than to just have them answer "Yes" or "No" on a poll. It's hard to get people to verbalize their issues and their perceived sources of them, so it's interesting to just let people free flow about their beliefs.

They don't have to be smart, correct, or even coherent. But, it is interesting to just get it from the horse's mouth without a filter.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
The judge who made the whole case against Donziger a thing, Lewis Kaplan was appointed by Bill Clinton.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

zegermans posted:

it's not bipartisan to say anyone with a FedSoc membership is barred from being nominated

they should all be locked up for treason

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

pospysyl posted:

I caught my mom watching Lawrence O'Donnell last night. He was making a big deal about how Biden "gave the longest presidential press conference ever" and how he answered every question he was asked "clearly and completely". What was really funny, though, is that he would only show two word clips of Biden's answers and then summarize at length the rest of what he said.

Maddow & Wallace were taking the tack that Biden has been way too modest in tooting his own horn, and that's what's led to his drop in polling. If only he did more bragging, like in the Longest Presidential Press Conference Ever, then Americans would come to their senses!

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Willa Rogers posted:

Maddow & Wallace were taking the tack that Biden has been way too modest in tooting his own horn, and that's what's led to his drop in polling. If only he did more bragging, like in the Longest Presidential Press Conference Ever, then Americans would come to their senses!

They said this exact same thing about Obungler too.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

DoubleDonut posted:

trump’s extremely stupid press secretaries were also much funnier than jen psaki thinking she’s a cool sarcastic girlboss

Sleepy Joe is basically all the stupidity and nepotism of the Trump admin, without the occasional moments of incredible comedy.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

zegermans posted:

it's not bipartisan to say anyone with a FedSoc membership is barred from being nominated

lol remember when some primary candidate said the federalist society had undue influence over right wing judge lists and their hardline far out of mainstream views meant that was a very bad thing?

Then the federalist society cried about how unfair that was and that they SAY they're nonpartisan and are you saying they LIE that's so hosed up and mean of you to say, so everyone said sorry they actually are good?

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


So we bricked the Stimmy Checks, we're down on Student Debt Relief, Infrastructure didn't happen, we deported a record number of children in 2021, the Supreme Court is a no-go, the Pentagon's budget is higher than ever, the Filibuster is still in play, Voting Rights? More Like Voting Wrongs, and now even the guys he hand picks for Federal Court are poo poo like this.

Think the last thing standing for "but he's better than Trump!" gang is that Biden hasn't said a curse word on TV yet

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1484278533505617923

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 18 days!)

Willa Rogers posted:

Maddow & Wallace were taking the tack that Biden has been way too modest in tooting his own horn, and that's what's led to his drop in polling. If only he did more bragging, like in the Longest Presidential Press Conference Ever, then Americans would come to their senses!

They're not totally wrong. It's not hard to imagine a firebrand president spinning failure into political engagement - even if it doesn't make a difference. It's just too depressing for these people to accept that Biden is ready to surrender on everything.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Chillgamesh posted:

So we bricked the Stimmy Checks, we're down on Student Debt Relief, Infrastructure didn't happen, we deported a record number of children in 2021, the Supreme Court is a no-go, the Pentagon's budget is higher than ever, the Filibuster is still in play, Voting Rights? More Like Voting Wrongs, and now even the guys he hand picks for Federal Court are poo poo like this.

Think the last thing standing for "but he's better than Trump!" gang is that Biden hasn't said a curse word on TV yet

he doesn't make bad tweets, which is all they actually care about

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1484275608246968328

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Chillgamesh posted:

So we bricked the Stimmy Checks, we're down on Student Debt Relief, Infrastructure didn't happen, we deported a record number of children in 2021, the Supreme Court is a no-go, the Pentagon's budget is higher than ever, the Filibuster is still in play, Voting Rights? More Like Voting Wrongs, and now even the guys he hand picks for Federal Court are poo poo like this.

Think the last thing standing for "but he's better than Trump!" gang is that Biden hasn't said a curse word on TV yet

Dejoy is still in charge too

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

One of the members of Congress you fought hardest for had his house raided by the FBI just this week you stupid evil piece of poo poo

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Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

It's been a hard two weeks of work cut them some slack

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