Rotten Red Rod posted:

37 steps to describe "hauling and selling some cargo"

Kosumo posted:

It would have been 41 steps once the poo and pee gameplay is added.

trucutru posted:

Whoa, whoa, whoa hold your horses mr. future science man, this is realistic Sci-Fi we're talking about. Next you're going to tell me they could use some sort of device to talk to people at far away distances, a so called "speaking telegraph" to make deals.

trucutru posted:

Now that I think about it, you could train the procgen birds to carry messages attached to their legs to its destinations. Of course, you would also have to teach them to pilot tiny bird spaceships if you wanted the message to reach another planet.

Then you could sell them. The RSI corvid-1, in stock, only $75, a steal!

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EDIT: jeez...there are some people who can't read between the lines aren't there. The task wasn't "Do whatever is necessary to make 400, 000" (kinda wished I hadn't mentioned the amount, figured people were smarter but hey). The task was picking up the refined ore I'd already mined and taking it to market and selling it.

The whole point of the above is to show that you pop on for a quick go and get something done. Not masses but then why would you expect to? This isn't some mobile game you go to when you're off for a quick crap break at work. :smile:

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Fekk me. I've got nothing left but animal grunts to attempt to communicate with.

Yes, of course the ore had to come from somewhere and it came from me having fun tootling around the Aaron halo mining it.

But I don't think I ever said. You can do the complete mining gameplay loop in 40 minutes did I?

I said (to somewhat paraphrase) you can do the picking up your refined ore and taking it to market and selling it thing in 40 minutes.

Which is what I did and I enjoyed myself whilst doing it.

You can get discrete tasks (not necessarily complete gameplay loops, and that's a good thing in my opinion) done in a relatively short time, if you're organised about it.

Now if you want to hallucinate something else and claim I said it to try to argue your point that you should be able to see and do everything there is to do in a 2 hours session then I'm not your fella.

I've done you the favour of explaining what should be self evident once. I shan't bother next time.

Mirificus posted:

Mirificus posted:

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I said (to somewhat paraphrase) you can do the picking up your refined ore and taking it to market and selling it thing in 40 minutes.

.random posted:

Now someone do this same set of actions and count the number of button presses / mouse clicks TIA

Bumble He posted:

there is one interesting aspect left though, fighting for territory. i never played eve, but i understand that its besically a 4x game but mmo-style etc. i imagine that a space pew pew game could be loads of fun if the actual space battle is fought for a reason like expansion of your fraction's territory/influence/resources/jumppoints what have you.

but this would of course need a rock solid territorial-based core game mechanic. if you imagined the starmap as a huge playfield where fractions fight for influence, it could be fun. but that would mean throwing out all the fluff and redundant eye candy and instead providing all the mechanics needed to make this happen. and yes, i think then even the famous emergent gameplay can happen.

talking feasability, it would not even be necessary that ships can meet each other at all times in space, since space is really goddam huge. it could work like if you want to defend a sector than your ship is flagged as defender, if other ships want to attack that sector then they will inevitably have to fight against the defenders.

thank you for reading my dreams.txt

Midnight Voyager posted:

whilst shan't, someone toss this guy into a locker

DaysBefore posted:

He also said 'Fekk' and while I don't actually know if this is true I'm entirely convinced it's one of those 'safe for TV' swears that sci-fi shows used to make up in the mid 2000s

Animal Friend posted:

I was trying to explain the Fourth Stimpire to somebody the other day.

trucutru posted:

Anyways, today was the date that the new roadmap for the game was supposed to be released. Backers were expecting big delays for all the items in the roadmap.

... but they weren't expecting a delay on the roadmap itself. Because CIG needs an extra week after "planning month" to finish their planning.



I can't wait to be educated about what the terminology in the roadmap really means!

Rotten Red Rod posted:

The Battlestar Galactica remake had "frack", and "feck" is real-world Irish & Scottish slang for "gently caress", popularized in the BBC show Father Ted. "Fekk" is probably this guy's quirky/pretentious made up version of those.

Thoatse posted:

OG Battlestar had frak too

DaysBefore posted:

Pretty sure if you turn off enough stuff Elite gives you a fairly close-ish flight model in space. All that inertia and coasting and what have you.

trucutru posted:

In any case that dude got paid for five years of theorycrafting/implementing the dumbest flight model ever. He planned for every contingency ever and made sure that the thrusters could counteract all the different forces that affect the ship. The main problem is that none of those forces are actually in the game. Lift and drag? Forget it, not even gravity is there and was instead simulated by phantom thrust.

Everything is rear end-backwards. Here is how they calculate fuel cost:

Are you accelerating? Yes? then it costs fuel. Otherwise no. All those calculations and bullshit but nothing is actually done properly.

Tippis posted:

…for instance, most sensible flight sims use “Newtonian flight” to drive their flight models.

So… yeah.
Let's remember that this is the man who thought that “Wing Commander in jets” (aka SC) would be the most realistic combat flight sim evarrr in a world where Falcon 3.0 existed. It's not only physics that he is a noted understander of, but also contemporary games and PC tech in general.

Kesper North posted:

And felgercarb. I loved felgercarb

CornHolio posted:

Would it? I've got an i9-10885H, 128 gigs of RAM and an NVidia Quadro RTX 5000 graphics card. How much would it hate me?

Animal Friend posted:

I was trying to explain the Fourth Stimpire to somebody the other day.

Mirificus posted:

Thoatse posted:

Original Battlestar's only crime is that it only ran one season. I used to love that poo poo. I still do, but I used to too.

Zaphod42 posted:

What the hell, Montoya is actually right about something? He's... calling out a scam? Worried about people getting ripped off??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acvEDr4HXPs

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I think I understand the point you’re making… Are you sort of saying that even if they don’t call them NFTs, it’s still sort of the same thing? If not, disregard my reply entirely lol. But if that’s what you were saying, I disagree. I know a lot of people have a problem with star citizen selling ships, but it is how they fund the development of the game. I don’t have any problem with it, primarily because I believe in a person’s right (and more importantly, ability) to make that choice for themselves. There are many ships I have wanted to buy, the marketing is enticing, but I have not pulled the trigger because I don’t have the money to spend. The money I do have would not be well spent on that, anyway. But the distinction doesn’t end there. An NFT is an actual certificate of ownership, one which, in theory, cannot be tampered with, which is why it has many potential uses that are quite practical. I just don’t believe it has any place in video games as an NFT is more so, at this stage, a financial product than anything else, and I don’t want my game or its economy to be overrun by people who aren’t playing the game, just using it as an investment vehicle instead. In other words, I think CIG is interested in attracting gamers for their game, as there would be no market for NFTs in a game which no one is playing. This is why star atlas will never be a video game, but it is an opportunity for people with low intelligence and stupid money to have some fun trading NFTs. In this case, it doesn’t matter if it ever becomes a game because it started as an NFT racket. No game will result from that because no gamers will be interested in it. Not enough of them anyway. Star citizen would fail to be a game very quickly if it became a haven for NFT trading douche bags, and because CIG has plans to profit from it as a game, I don’t believe they would be wise to mess with that dynamic. I could be wrong, I certainly don’t mind being corrected as I prefer to be knowledgeable rather than right, but that’s the way I see it as of now.

Thoatse posted:

I mean yeah, but even the 'airplanes in space' model is more legit than people seem to think. IFCS flight control systems already exist and some planes couldn't even be flown without them. It crunches pilot inputs into actual craft commands, sometimes thousands of individual things happening at once to keep the plane flying which no human could possibly control. They can be set to different modes for different regimes of flying. A computer is already translating simplistic inputs from an ape man moving levers into complex craft changes. https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/research/IFCS/index.html

trucutru posted:

... but they weren't expecting a delay on the roadmap itself. Because CIG needs an extra week after "planning month" to finish their planning.

I can't wait to be educated about what the terminology in the roadmap really means!

Erulisse posted:

I just love taking a good big "morning" cup of coffee, stretch and sit down to read the circlejerk daily.I also love that it is, very conveniently I should say, placed on SA.
No need to open reddit, you know