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i say swears online posted:from another perspective, perhaps nato isn't actually a defensive alliance! and from this perspective, ukraine isn't a "liability which will drag us into war", but "an opportunity to be dragged into war".
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didnt we just finish one
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:didnt we just finish one no we handily won Afghanistan, that's why it's called America's Second Vietnam other nations would've taken 40, 60, 80+ years to achieve what we did in 20, especially in terms of total cost
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what about career soldiers from armies that i like
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Doctor Jeep posted:I'm reading these excerpts and thinking to myself "thank god they were like this, thank god this guy didn't manage to whip them into shape" lmao the only conclusion to be drawn from it is that the military was too institutionally biased towards loving up and not caring. SLAM was the smart one for recognizing the problems but not caring about them, because it would've ruined his career to make a stink.
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i say swears online posted:what about career soldiers from armies that i like A well armed and politically educated soldiery is necessary to secure the revolution
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pogi posted:An interesting supplemental thing I’ve found on Vietnam is the Senate’s Committee of Foreign relation’s hearing of journalist Harrison Salisbury’s trip to North Vietnam. Here’s the link to the document: this is from like six pages ago, but I just wanted to point out that the chairman of that committee was a notoriously hardline anti-Vietnam-War dove who ended up getting primaried by a more hawkish Democrat almost entirely because of his anti-war positions, so he is almost certainly being sarcastic here
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Wait, they let a sitting US Senator visit North Vietnam... during the war? 
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pogi posted:An interesting supplemental thing I’ve found on Vietnam is the Senate’s Committee of Foreign relation’s hearing of journalist Harrison Salisbury’s trip to North Vietnam. Here’s the link to the document: so vietnamese women are getting their hair done in a salon and then hear the siren, grab their rifles, and run up onto the roof skooma512 posted:Wait, they let a sitting US Senator visit North Vietnam... during the war? BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 01:24 on Jan 27, 2022 |
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skooma512 posted:Wait, they let a sitting US Senator visit North Vietnam... during the war? Who do you imagine had the power to prevent it? Who is “they” here?
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another anecdote is that the north vietnamese dispersed their oil supplies in drums across the country to prevent them from being easily bombed. so you'd be driving down the street in the countryside and just see oil drums scattered around in people's rice paddies. needed oil? just pull over and pick one up. some other journalists reported this as "red vietnam's logistics in disarray" which the pentagon took as evidence the bombing was working
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I'm glad that both his daughter's husband and his daughter's boyfriend are serving. o7.
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Loucks posted:Who do you imagine had the power to prevent it? Who is “they” here? North Vietnam? Being at war with a country generally means you can't travel there, and probably shouldn't if you're an official in the enemy government.
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skooma512 posted:North Vietnam? US senators get a lot of leeway to undertake their own diplomatic missions. I doubt they'd just be allowed to visit an enemy country in the middle of wartime, but it wouldn't be that weird if one did. Especially if there's still active diplomacy going on, like it was for most of the war.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:US senators get a lot of leeway to undertake their own diplomatic missions. I doubt they'd just be allowed to visit an enemy country in the middle of wartime, but it wouldn't be that weird if one did. Especially if there's still active diplomacy going on, like it was for most of the war. john mccain visited afghanistan a few times and had people drive him all over helmand certainly wasn't a diplomacy mission tho lol
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i say swears online posted:john mccain visited afghanistan a few times and had people drive him all over helmand
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A Buttery Pastry posted:he also visited vietnam lol multiple times even
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Mister Bates posted:this is from like six pages ago, but I just wanted to point out that the chairman of that committee was a notoriously hardline anti-Vietnam-War dove who ended up getting primaried by a more hawkish Democrat almost entirely because of his anti-war positions, so he is almost certainly being sarcastic here ahhh, now that is interesting. That piece of information that flips my perspective on the hearing, at least on the chairman’s part. Thanks!
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gradenko_2000 posted:lol multiple times even I heard he had a thing for crashing hotel parties
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finally some good volleys https://twitter.com/DylanBurns1776/status/1485819001662021633 https://twitter.com/butch_assidy/status/1486032943046967301
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Burgers had to fund those SpaceGoku posted:actually we lost to goat farmers gently caress, I found out cattle just means cows.
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Tankbuster posted:Like whats gonna happen when all those F-35s crash due to inclement weather or the newly upgraded fighting falcons get zapped by russian air defenses? we pay 500 billion for new ones deliverable in 2054
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Wojak comic even assumes we've got enough air superiority to do airstrikes and have attack helicopters. We can't even imagine a war where we can't depend on air power.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Russian pilots have to share a MIG-15. When the first one dies, the other one has to drag it back to base for repairs. russian soldiers are placed in pairs. one gets the aircraft and one gets the missiles
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From a write up of the joint Kazakh-Russian-US effort securing of a bunch of plutonium Russia left in Kazakhstan:quote:https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/files/publication/Plutonium%20Mountain-Web.pdf
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