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Jul 26, 2007


gradenko_2000 posted:

Campist racists sing this song
doo dah, doo dah
Campist tweet threads five miles long
all the doo dah day

lol thank you anarchism for the Content

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 21 days!)

copy posted:

lol thank you anarchism for the Content

:vince:

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
I guess the one thing that is good out of the antiwork situation is that most people are making GBS threads on anarchists now on the subreddit. It might be just online but I've been seeing increasing resistance to the horizontalist bullshit that has dominated the Left for the past 30 years (in North America at least.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007


good god lmao

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy


say what you will about antiwork but "r/workreform" is DEFINITELY an op

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

lol

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 21 days!)

democratize the investment bank break room

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

democratize the investment bank break room

Power to the people. ✊

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
lol the new head mod of r/antiwork is a 21 year anarchist who bans posting of lenin's works because he is a tankie

gently caress you stupid dead ideology anarchists

Karach
May 23, 2003

no war but class war
can you be for the disillusionment with capitalism expressed on r/antiwork, while being against greasy rapist mods?

this is the needle I'm trying to thread.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
fuckin' anarchists

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
love 2 be a tankie despite dying 30 years before the eponymous tanks

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
Nap Ghost

AnimeIsTrash posted:

There was a tweet that went viral a couple of years ago where a bunch of academics were talking about what they'd do after the revolution happens. Most of the answers were stuff like anime reviewer, working reeducation camps, or leading the troops.

The guy that got made fun of was the one who said he'd do manual labor working in a farm.

I think the "anime appraiser" tweet specifically was a joke, but there were a whole bunch that were about as dumb and werent jokes.

StratGoatCom posted:

Hate to be the one calling 'fed' at everything... but that's a fed. The sleep rapist, I mean.

Combo Reddit Moderator/Internet Anarchist being a deeply embarrassing moron sex pest is so predictable its 100% why they were booked on FOX. No feds needed.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

just read the synopsis of "the abolition of work" and lmao its the dumbest poo poo I ever heard


wikipedia posted:

...instead turning necessary subsistence tasks into free play done voluntarily...

OK anarchists you all go ahead and voluntarily do the free play of shoveling pig poo poo

I swear, what no dialectical materialism does to a mf's brain...

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
"Real Fourierism has never been tried!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

MeatwadIsGod posted:

love 2 be a tankie despite dying 30 years before the eponymous tanks

maybe they just opposed sending tanks into Amiens in 1918

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 21 days!)

my bony fealty posted:

just read the synopsis of "the abolition of work" and lmao its the dumbest poo poo I ever heard

OK anarchists you all go ahead and voluntarily do the free play of shoveling pig poo poo

I swear, what no dialectical materialism does to a mf's brain...

gamifying labor is an actual objective of capitalist conditioning lmao

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

my bony fealty posted:

just read the synopsis of "the abolition of work" and lmao its the dumbest poo poo I ever heard

OK anarchists you all go ahead and voluntarily do the free play of shoveling pig poo poo

I swear, what no dialectical materialism does to a mf's brain...

RETVRN TO MONKEBABY

that's what they want, to be a baby again

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


that cartoonist must have been pissed at Stokely Carmichael and the Panthers

here's the original page. i can't confirm it but posts online say it's from 1968, so it's explicitly an attack on the Panthers and similar orgs.


The socialist labor party were pretty anti-tankie, so it's funny that they are being banned from the anti-tankie sub

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Sounds like they should fight it out with r/stupidpol

The Archaic
Jul 6, 2003

Are you a consultant archaeologist in North America?

Unionize today!

PM me and ask me how your future can be history!
I'm sure you've all seen this gem
https://twitter.com/bordigay/status/1480559886484197377

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


I was going to say, these "anarchists" are co-opting the name of an unrelated political movement to brand themselves as the anti-authoritarian left. It's not like they are going around quoting goldman and kropotkin at one another.

If you have a complete lack of political education and you regularly attack "other leftists", well, you might not actually be a leftist at all.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

anarchists in this very thread have opined about how reading theory was useless and doesn't matter. they're not co-opting anything they're real anarchists but you're correct that they're not at all leftists in any meaningful sense lol

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 21 days!)

Southpaugh posted:

I was going to say, these "anarchists" are co-opting the name of an unrelated political movement to brand themselves as the anti-authoritarian left. It's not like they are going around quoting goldman and kropotkin at one another.

If you have a complete lack of political education and you regularly attack "other leftists", well, you might not actually be a leftist at all.

A lot of what passes for anarchism these days is just pure lifestylism. The real power behind CHAZ for instance was just a group of influencers.

There's just something about anarchism that people grok intuitively, since it's the most radical form of liberalism. Learning about actual anarchist theory and praxis places a ceiling on your romantic range of action.

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

they're not co-opting anything they're real anarchists but you're correct that they're not at all leftists in any meaningful sense lol

yeah this is what I mean, lol. there's not much of any actual left wing anarchism.

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 20:37 on Jan 27, 2022

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
half the poo poo i see these people spout is indistinguishable from letting the markets decide reactionary right wing libertarianism, but they replace the word "regulation" with "hierarchy"

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

mila kunis posted:

half the poo poo i see these people spout is indistinguishable from letting the markets decide reactionary right wing libertarianism, but they replace the word "regulation" with "hierarchy"

horseshoe theory proved right after all

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

democratize the investment bank break room

The way we democratized Iraq sure

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Pentecoastal Elites posted:

anarchists in this very thread have opined about how reading theory was useless and doesn't matter. they're not co-opting anything they're real anarchists but you're correct that they're not at all leftists in any meaningful sense lol

I think you can make a very clear and meaningful delineation between the anarchist soup kitchen and bookshop or whatever and people who are running interference for the US state dept, paid or not.

I don't live in the US, and the anarchists (that I know) are generally engaged in grassroots political agitation and other organisations. And yes loads of them are arseholes but thats just the way people are.


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

A lot of what passes for anarchism these days is just pure lifestylism. The real power behind CHAZ for instance was just a group of influencers.

There's just something about anarchism that people grok intuitively, since it's the most radical form of liberalism. Learning about actual anarchist theory and praxis places a ceiling on your romantic range of action.

yeah this is what I mean, lol. there's not much of any actual left wing anarchism.

It is lifestylism, and the libertarian left and right in the US appear to be melding into some kind of ultraliberal strain of thought.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
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mila kunis posted:

half the poo poo i see these people spout is indistinguishable from letting the markets decide reactionary right wing libertarianism, but they replace the word "regulation" with "hierarchy"

That's what they essentially are, they just don't like to be labeled as libertarians.

In the US you're basically indoctrinated to a very right winged anti communist world view the minute you walk into school. It's incredibly difficult to break.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

doing praxis with my fellow anarchists at the nearby Southern Baptist food pantry. well i assume they're anarchists anyway, they really seem to dislike black teenagers and the chinese.

Ignorant Hick
Mar 26, 2010

AnimeIsTrash posted:

That's what they essentially are, they just don't like to be labeled as libertarians.

In the US you're basically indoctrinated to a very right winged anti communist world view the minute you walk into school. It's incredibly difficult to break.

Sometimes you get lucky and have a Romanian immigrant high school math teacher that sometimes stops (math) class to teach about how the fashion industry is a capitalist plot to keep you buying poo poo.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

doing praxis with my fellow anarchists at the nearby Southern Baptist food pantry. well i assume they're anarchists anyway, they really seem to dislike black teenagers and the chinese.

it's astonishing how pervasive and effective it is

like you show liberals polls about how Cubans are on the whole more satisfied with their government than Americans, or how majorities in former Soviet states preferred the USSR, and they instinctively call it propaganda

Dr. Poz
Sep 8, 2003

Dr. Poz just diagnosed you with a serious case of being a pussy. Now get back out there and hit them till you can't remember your kid's name.

Pillbug

my bony fealty posted:

it's astonishing how pervasive and effective it is

like you show liberals polls about how Cubans are on the whole more satisfied with their government than Americans, or how majorities in former Soviet states preferred the USSR, and they instinctively call it propaganda

the idiot anarchist im most familiar with tries to equate it to social democracy. his definition of socialism is whatever google puts in a preview bubble for the search terms "socialism definition" and cannot comprehend socialism being defined by the class in power. it's either all worker co-ops or it's not socialism.

Dr. Poz has issued a correction as of 21:26 on Jan 27, 2022

pnac attack
Jul 7, 2021

by Fluffdaddy
when someone tells me what to do that's facism, when someone helps me that's socialism, when someone loves me that's anarchism

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

my bony fealty posted:

just read the synopsis of "the abolition of work" and lmao its the dumbest poo poo I ever heard

OK anarchists you all go ahead and voluntarily do the free play of shoveling pig poo poo

I swear, what no dialectical materialism does to a mf's brain...
If someone told me to shovel pig poo poo and my needs were taken care of, and I was treated with respect, I'd do it. I've had worse jobs that didn't cover my needs.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Me too, but it would still be labour. Unalienated labour doesn't magically become play.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



eSporks posted:

If someone told me to shovel pig poo poo and my needs were taken care of, and I was treated with respect, I'd do it. I've had worse jobs that didn't cover my needs.

No because tying it to that is authoritarian coercion

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

Halloween Jack posted:

Me too, but it would still be labour. Unalienated labour doesn't magically become play.
Labor != Work

You can argue about definitions of words to ignore what something says if you really want to I guess.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



They're libertarians you aren't guaranteed poo poo lol, that'd be the base that the superstructure is built on if they read theory

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eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

Epic High Five posted:

No because tying it to that is authoritarian coercion
Ok, if I lived in a society where my needs were taken care of and I was respected and I saw a pile of poo poo that needed shoveling, I would gladly pick up a shovel.

I've already dug ditches for hours on end for no reason other than it benefiting my community and maybe a payment in the form of a thank you if I was lucky.

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