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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Their bellends

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Their bellends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbAWPYL0ers&t=75s

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

they just have to wait it out and they know it

with all the far right stuff they're trying to bring in i expect 88% voting intention by summer

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Mr Phillby posted:


He's also sleeping in a friends spare room, not literally sleeping rough so i don't feel a little bit bad for him.

The story as a whole aside, can we not do the 'not real homelessness' thing, because it might not be as bad as sleeping under a bridge but hidden homelessness is still really poo poo and dehumanising and it would be bad to delegitimise the people struggling with it.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Dude Glinner'd himself by the sounds of it

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Food Ł200
Data Ł150
Acting Guild Fees Ł200
Proving that 2000 years of medical history is wrong and the illuminati exist Ł36,000
Utility Ł150
someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. I'm homeless

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/seanjward/status/1486702321442725896

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


ThomasPaine posted:

The story as a whole aside, can we not do the 'not real homelessness' thing, because it might not be as bad as sleeping under a bridge but hidden homelessness is still really poo poo and dehumanising and it would be bad to delegitimise the people struggling with it.
Yeh for the record I thoroughly disagree with TP & am not gonna bother outlining my arguments because other people have already done it better, but as a former unhoused person that comment did rub me up the wrong way (& I know it was unintended, gently caress that guy lmao). Sleeping in your mate's spare room means you've got a bed that night, but there's other nights after that one, some of them are outside, and those ones are proper poo poo. & knowing that weighs on you when you're indoors.

(also worth noting that soap actor is a poo poo job, you get a good living for a bit but it's a short shelf life, then most of them are back to normal working class jobs but with added tabloid hatred & infrequent "look at this scum working a checkout" articles; however - again - gently caress that guy lmao. It's not about his job, it's about the fact that he's A Big poo poo. This is significantly less distasteful than extreme violence against nazis, which should also be celebrated)

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

That's just one step away from the racecar bed

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Probably just got himself a nice little earner, appearance on Matthew Wright or whatever to discuss issues

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


the most comfortable bed i’ve ever slept in was a cheap ikea mattress on the floor, so maybe he’s the lucky one actually

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


lol I didn't see fuctifino's post, gently caress that oval office for belittling hidden homelessness & all

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~

ThomasPaine posted:

The story as a whole aside, can we not do the 'not real homelessness' thing, because it might not be as bad as sleeping under a bridge but hidden homelessness is still really poo poo and dehumanising and it would be bad to delegitimise the people struggling with it.
Not feeling sorry for this prick isn't supposed to delegitimise other people in similar circumstances, I'm just pointing out he's not yet at risk of freezing to death in the doorway of a closed debenhams as the council decides that their emergency contingency for rough sleepers in cold weather should not be activated because the forecast was 1 degree higher than what their procedure says is dangerous.

The dude's not in a good place, his teeth are falling out from the stress i get that, I'd just have a harder time not feeling sorry for him and his self inflicted misery than if he was at the full mercy of the british state is all.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Lol at Labour just drifting back down in the polls now: they'll never gain a persistent lead unless they've got a coherent alternative to offer and it's clear by now that's not gonna happen.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Borrovan posted:

lol I didn't see fuctifino's post, gently caress that oval office for belittling hidden homelessness & all

which oval office is getting hosed?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Failed Imagineer posted:

That's just one step away from the racecar bed

I prefer sleeping on ground level mattresses.
Ever since a cousin broke my old bed by jumping up and down on it and we couldn't afford to replace it at the time.
If I sleep on a higher bed now I wake up afraid Ill fall off the edge.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

happyhippy posted:

I prefer sleeping on ground level mattresses.
Ever since a cousin broke my old bed by jumping up and down on it and we couldn't afford to replace it at the time.
If I sleep on a higher bed now I wake up afraid Ill fall off the edge.

Even though I broke my collarbone falling out of a regular height bed, that still seems like an unreasonable fear

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

one weird trick to a monster free bedroom

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

Jel Shaker posted:

one weird trick to a monster free bedroom

Not true for anyone owned by a cat.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

which oval office is getting hosed?

ur moms (by me) (I'm sleeping with your mother)

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

ur moms (by me) (I'm sleeping with your mother)

LOL loving don't call me dad when you're inevitably locked out of your account or need something printing.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jel Shaker posted:

one weird trick to a monster free bedroom
You lose the British monsters but gain tokoloshes.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Failed Imagineer posted:

Even though I broke my collarbone falling out of a regular height bed, that still seems like an unreasonable fear

Afraid is the wrong word, not scared of it.
Just the mind doesn't like it, and I snap awake.
I think it detects if my arm or foot is out into open air and there is no ground to touch beneath.
One def advantage is no squeaking beds turning around.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

ur moms (by me) (I'm sleeping with your mother)

No you aren’t I just saw her she was making a cup of tea and I highly doubt you’ve broken in and had sex with her in the last 15 seconds. I’d have heard.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Just watched Don't Look Up, can recommend. The tiny Chris Evans uncredited cameo just hit the nail on the head perfectly.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i think it was a standard sized chris evans to be honest

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Apparently the problem with this government are the amount of woke neo-socialists inside No.10.

https://twitter.com/AlexGunn15/status/1486833324807147528

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
[translator's note: 'woke' means 'bad']

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

There was someone on a podcast the other day who pointed out that 'woke' was first used in its current sense by black campaigners back in the 70s and that might be something to bear in mind when using it as a perjorative.

No idea if that's true but it sounds like the sort of thing that would scare centrists into correctly identifying the people misusing it as wankers.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the right appropriated the word from black campaigners. In its current form, the word meaningless except as a label to include everyone they hate.

I've frequently asked people who use the word in a derogatory way to explain what they mean by woke, pretending to be ignorant. Most people can't define what they mean, despite repeated digs from me, but they always state that being woke is bad. I then often ask them if they are the opposite of woke, and these people normally loudly exclaim that yes they are, they are the opposite of woke.

I then ask them what the polar opposite of woke is, often segueing into 'awake' when repeating the question... and it's at that point they often become angry and stop talking to me.

But to this day, I still have no idea what 'woke' means to these people.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It was definitely AAVE well before any white person knew or cared about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp5QabWeUUw

Not sure about the 70s, but it was AAVE > Black Twitter > Social Justice Twitter > ruined by the usual over the last 5 years

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Bobby Deluxe posted:

There was someone on a podcast the other day who pointed out that 'woke' was first used in its current sense by black campaigners back in the 70s and that might be something to bear in mind when using it as a perjorative.

No idea if that's true but it sounds like the sort of thing that would scare centrists into correctly identifying the people misusing it as wankers.

It was being used that way about five years ago before the right ruined it. Same as cancelled.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I genuinely have never encountered anyone using it other than just to mean "thing I dislike" so I don't even know how it entered their consciousness.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
The right's adoption of it seems to have driven 'snowflake' as an insult to extinction. Much like the right's climate change denial has driven actual snow flakes to extinction.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

It's use to mean 'aware of structural bigotry driven by society and class interest' was good for a time but much like 'fake news' the overarching capitalist liberal paradigm of western society rendered the concept powerless as capitalism relies on those mechanisms too much to ever allow structural critiques to establish themselves. Once the phrase was popular the liberals had to make it toothless and superficial and so the right wing then overpowered that to their own ends and so woke is now just the new PC - minorities exist in popular consciousness with semi-independant existences and clout and that's bad.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

fuctifino posted:

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the right appropriated the word from black campaigners. In its current form, the word meaningless except as a label to include everyone they hate.
I thought the left appropriated it / started using it again for a while (I think at the start of the George Floyd protests) and then later on the right starting using it perjoratively?

Maybe I’m mistaken but the timeline in my head was:
  • “people using it in earnest to denote somebody aware of systemic racism and structural inequalities in society”
  • “other people pointing out that ‘woke’ used to be used by Black campaigners and it had now been appropriated by largely white campaigners, awkward”
  • “‘woke’ falling out of favour with BLM and associated parties”
  • “‘woke’ being taken up by the right to denote hippy-dippy PC-gone-mad commie leftists who won’t rest until everyone from Santa to Superman has been rebooted as trans queer black Muslims”

TACD fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jan 28, 2022

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I've only really heard it used in the real world by the right, and only fairly recently, so in their current confused connotation. I guess the only other times I've heard it used are when people are describing hallucinogenic trips.

Disclaimer: I do lead a sheltered life.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

The funniest one I was reading about last night was a bunch of people criticising the new superman being too woke, and how issue 6 (post bisexual coming out) wasn't on any of the top 50 lists in December, proving fans hated it.

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1486034707762806785?t=0Bhf4enV3_hyGwuphzYbAA&s=19

:nws: not embedded for homophobia / biphobia

Issue 6 didn't come out 'til January.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


loving hilarious watching Labour slowly drift into a shitpile in the polls again.

The labour right's lack of policies is absolutely intentional. They have never wanted to be in charge except by nature of the country having no expectations and giving them a go because the tories are shockingly terrible.

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Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



TACD posted:

I thought the left appropriated it / started using it again for a while (I think at the start of the George Floyd protests) and then later on the right starting using it perjoratively?

Maybe I’m mistaken but the timeline in my head was:
  • “people using it in earnest to denote somebody aware of systemic racism and structural inequalities in society”
  • “other people pointing out that ‘woke’ used to be used by Black campaigners and it had now been appropriated by largely white campaigners, awkward”
  • “‘woke’ falling out of favour with BLM and associated parties”
  • “‘woke’ being taken up by the right to denote hippy-dippy PC-gone-mad commie leftists who won’t rest until everyone from Santa to Superman has been rebooted as trans queer black Muslims”

I think this is largely correct but I sort of remember a point where it was used more ironically in black circles to mock men pretending to be more woke than they really were in order to sleep with women.

That was like 5-10 years ago. Language can evolve much faster.

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