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Kung Food posted:Has anyone ever actually defined what "the west" is? They act like everything from ancient Greece to modern America is 'the West' even when a lot of the cultures under the umbrella of "Western" have nothing in common. Like, I know what they are actually getting at while desperately trying not to admit it, they mean whiteness, but have they ever developed a non-racist definition? See also: Jorp complaining about how Marxism (the philosophy developed by a German man living in Britain) or postmodernism (developed by a bunch of French dudes) as "threatening Western Values". Unless JP thinks these are all ideas from the enemies within, and not true Western Values...but, of course, he never said that...
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Burns posted:Post modernism sounds like some loving dumb hipster poo poo tbh. Post modernism is about thumbing your nose at authority and having tons of kinky sex, at least that's what I remember from my time in university.
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Jan 28, 2022 00:15
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Pennywise the Frown posted:JP completely sounds like a guy that a dumb person thinks is smart. He just uses lots of words and long sentences, not even big/complicated words, and he repeats himself over and over and an idiot would think that sounds smart. and again as ive posted before, this is the exact criticism people had of postmodern academics 20+ years ago
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Jan 28, 2022 00:32
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Dreylad posted:and again as ive posted before, this is the exact criticism people had of postmodern academics 20+ years ago Derrida had actually read and understood Saussure and Levi-Strauss, though. It was people like Jorp who dismissed postmodernism as meaningless and fraudulent.
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Jan 28, 2022 01:30
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post modernism in the context of right wing buzzwords means the same thing as cultural marxism. They're code words for progress/arts/gays/blacks but ultimately the jewish people behind it all.
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Jan 28, 2022 01:48
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He just linked a climate change denial book by a guy who was paid to say second hand smoke wasn't real in defense of his word salad.
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Jan 28, 2022 02:26
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Kung Food posted:Has anyone ever actually defined what "the west" is? They act like everything from ancient Greece to modern America is 'the West' even when a lot of the cultures under the umbrella of "Western" have nothing in common. Like, I know what they are actually getting at while desperately trying not to admit it, they mean whiteness, but have they ever developed a non-racist definition? BalloonFish posted:See also: Jorp complaining about how Marxism (the philosophy developed by a German man living in Britain) or postmodernism (developed by a bunch of French dudes) as "threatening Western Values". IMO, and based on his years of quietly shilling typical white conservative/republican-style Christianity and its "values," and based off his recent What I've Learned interview (which I skimmed in another post in here), I've ever more convinced that "Western values" is his version of a hodgepodge of White Jesus Christianity, Disney, and a bit post-Christian Roman something or other. Whatever it is, it ties back to Christianity in some way or other, and why he has such a stick up his rear end about non-Christian and atheist thinkers and ideas, despite those people often being white too. It's also why he hasn't bloviated on the Bhagavad Gita or Lotus Sutra or anything remotely "exotic," because it's also not Christian and white.
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Jan 28, 2022 02:50
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PITY BONER posted:IMO, and based on his years of quietly shilling typical white conservative/republican-style Christianity and its "values," and based off his recent What I've Learned interview (which I skimmed in another post in here), I've ever more convinced that "Western values" is his version of a hodgepodge of White Jesus Christianity, Disney, and a bit post-Christian Roman something or other. Whatever it is, it ties back to Christianity in some way or other, and why he has such a stick up his rear end about non-Christian and atheist thinkers and ideas, despite those people often being white too. It's also why he hasn't bloviated on the Bhagavad Gita or Lotus Sutra or anything remotely "exotic," because it's also not Christian and white.
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Jan 28, 2022 03:26
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I'll just leave this here. His whole loving schtick is that loving lobsters are a good, no, great model for humanity, and by humanity he means everything It's like a Tim and Eric sketch ashpanash fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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Jan 28, 2022 04:05
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Olympic Mathlete posted:lol Well now I want to see a Jordan Peterson "First time watching Snarky Puppy's 'Lingus - We Like It Here'" reaction vid. Eh, who am I kidding, he would be stone-faced the whole time and think the keyboardist represented chaos or some poo poo because he didn't do more glissandoes like the Ghost Riders In the Sky guy. Nice Tuckpointing! fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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Jan 28, 2022 04:45
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Been said before but a LOT makes sense realising that Jorps seems to have anhedonia and literally can't experience positive emotions.
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Jan 28, 2022 07:50
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I AM GRANDO posted:Derrida had actually read and understood Saussure and Levi-Strauss, though. It was people like Jorp who dismissed postmodernism as meaningless and fraudulent. Huh. Guess it's another case of accusing others of what you do yourself
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Jan 28, 2022 07:59
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Been said before but a LOT makes sense realising that Jorps seems to have anhedonia and literally can't experience positive emotions. Yeah he thinks that positive societal change is impossible to deliberately affect and has adopted a political ideology which justifies that. Everything sucks so you shouldn't even try etc etc
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Jan 28, 2022 08:15
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah he thinks that positive societal change is impossible to deliberately affect and has adopted a political ideology which justifies that. Everything sucks so you shouldn't even try etc etc Except giving him money and fame, ofc. That’s something you should try, as much as possible.
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Kung Food posted:Has anyone ever actually defined what "the west" is? They act like everything from ancient Greece to modern America is 'the West' even when a lot of the cultures under the umbrella of "Western" have nothing in common. Like, I know what they are actually getting at while desperately trying not to admit it, they mean whiteness, but have they ever developed a non-racist definition? When I was a dumbshit objectivist-libertarian in my teens, I sort of vaguely remember "The West" being defined by other objectivists as palces (or cultures? countries?) where the dominating philosophy was based upon Aristotelian thought. Whatever the gently caress that means. gently caress, I must have been so punchable when I parroted that as a spotty, badly dressed 17-year old.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:01
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You can probably draw up an actual definition of "western culture" that makes sense, but there's no point in doing it in relation to Jorp's word salad spinning because what he means is the usual bullshit dogwhistle poo poo that conservatives always mean by "western culture": white people stuff with some token poo poo like Jazz and Blues to make them look less racist.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:06
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I was driving to get groceries yesterday and started trying to do a Jorp voice, just to myself, trying it out. Not quite Kermit, but close to it, plus, as a fellow Canadian, even HIS Canadian accent sounds funny to me, and I'm from the east. His accent is THE accent that people outside of Canada assume all Canadians sound like. Holy poo poo, it's annoying. He over pronounces his long "O" sound, he uses "ah" instead of "a" (like for him, he wouldn't say 'plan', it'd be closer to 'plahn')... add that to his meandering way of putting sentences together, and you've got an impression. If I get good at it, I'll post it or something, I don't know.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:25
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Some of us still consider David Suzuki the ur-canadian public intellectual.
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https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1486844142504263687?s=20&t=RjwNzsumK_ISU31yF1ThKgquote:In the 1980s and 1990s, Singer decided to sell his soul and become a corporate shill. Despite not having published on atmospheric issues since the last decade with the exception of two papers, Singer entered the ozone fray and attempted to pass himself off as a cutting-edge researcher. He decided he didn't need no steenkin' peer review, employing the classic denialist tactic of side-stepping scientific journals to publish op-eds and give testimonies before Congress. He liberally quote mined the science on ozone depletion and claimed that the measurements were incorrect, that there had always been a hole in the ozone and it was natural. What he "forgot" to mention was that he was being heavily bankrolled by petroleum companies at the time, including Exxon and Shell, through his think tank called The Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP). Singer also downplayed the threat of acid rain in his role on the Acid Rain Peer Review Panel during this period and SEPP has been labeling acid rain as a fake crisis since then. As we now know, Singer was on the wrong side of history – in 1995, the scientists who discovered the chemistry behind the ozone hole were awarded the Nobel Prize for their work. Strike one.
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1486844142504263687?s=20&t=RjwNzsumK_ISU31yF1ThKg Title reminds me of Cold Ice Cream, Hot Kisses by Gavin Belson
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np19 posted:Title reminds me of Cold Ice Cream, Hot Kisses by Gavin Belson For me, it's Dairy Queen. "Hot Eats, Cool Treats. We treat you right."
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Say what you want about him, the man can dance.
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I'm still reeling from Jorp's attempt to prove models don't work. "But you didn't account for everything!" Yeah no poo poo. Welcome to science, shithead. The point of a model is that it's simplified, but not simplified beyond usefulness. You bet your rear end I'm still gonna use Newton's physics models to describe a ball rolling down a hill.
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Decon posted:I'm still reeling from Jorp's attempt to prove models don't work. It's funnier that it wasn't just him saying some bullshit about models but him legitimately being a climate change denier and having a meltdown on twitter after being mocked for it in the media.
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Is anybody else who doesn't have a Twitter account suddenly getting popups on the site insisting you sign up or log in and you can't read tweets otherwise? I was trying to read how many times a Jorp sycophant in the above link was demanding evidence, getting told about the problems with that book's author, and the guy retorts with "Heh, so you have nothing" or something similar. Then he uses the ultimate zinger impossible to recover from: "Have a good one."
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Yeah, Twitter uses cookies to track how often you visit and gives you that pop-up when they feel you’ve read enough tweets for free. You can clear your browser cache and block Twitter from giving you cookies; I forget how but google should be able to give you instructions relevant to whatever browser you’re using. And lmao that Jorp would boost Fred Singer, literally the world’s most famous bunk scientist who has quantitatively been proven wrong every single time he’s piped up. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:It's funnier that it wasn't just him saying some bullshit about models but him legitimately being a climate change denier and having a meltdown on twitter after being mocked for it in the media. Oh don't worry I saw him link the book by the guy that gave us classics like "smoking doesn't cause cancer".
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Been said before but a LOT makes sense realising that Jorps seems to have anhedonia and literally can't experience positive emotions. That's true of most rightwingers. They're miserable all the time because they're white men who live in constant fear of everything that's different from them, so they enact lovely, no fun laws to keep all the other races and genders in line but that doesn't make their paranoia go away because it's purely a neurological condition.
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Yaldabaoth posted:That's true of most rightwingers. They're miserable all the time because they're white men who live in constant fear of everything that's different from them, so they enact lovely, no fun laws to keep all the other races and genders in line but that doesn't make their paranoia go away because it's purely a neurological condition. Don't forget the part where they finish doing that just to go on twitter and bitch about how leftists are trying to ban fun because society has become less tolerant of bigotry and rape.
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Is anybody else who doesn't have a Twitter account suddenly getting popups on the site insisting you sign up or log in and you can't read tweets otherwise? I was trying to read how many times a Jorp sycophant in the above link was demanding evidence, getting told about the problems with that book's author, and the guy retorts with "Heh, so you have nothing" or something similar. Then he uses the ultimate zinger impossible to recover from: "Have a good one." It was bizarre how many of them were acting like they knew who Singer was before Jorp linked the book when it was clear they didn't. Guess it makes sense when Peterson knows jack poo poo about everything he pontificates about.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Yeah, Twitter uses cookies to track how often you visit and gives you that pop-up when they feel you’ve read enough tweets for free. You can clear your browser cache and block Twitter from giving you cookies; I forget how but google should be able to give you instructions relevant to whatever browser you’re using. Worked like a charm! Now I can get back to hate-scrolling.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Been said before but a LOT makes sense realising that Jorps seems to have anhedonia and literally can't experience positive emotions.
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dysphoria, datphoria, what's the difference!
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Someone may have posted this before but I was about to upload an image to Imgur and saw this as the first image on the front page lol.
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Yeah I think that's what caused him to have his twitter meltdown last night where he confirmed he's a full blown climate change denier.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Yeah I think that's what caused him to have his twitter meltdown last night where he confirmed he's a full blown climate change denier. Oooooh, what? He had a meltdown? 
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i can't believe joe rogan isn't made of knuckles https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1487032346238984192
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hey looks like jorp finally came out with his excuse on why his comments on climate change weren't dumb, ACTUALLY:
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