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Khizan posted:I used an anagram finder to test this. It came back with "drongo" as the only 6 letter word that can be formed from "gordon" and 4 possible alternatives for "goner", those being 'ergon', 'grone', 'genro', and 'negro'. Drongo Ergon sounds like a comfy faux-leather chair, though; I’m sure they just didn’t explain it right… 
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Bored ape yacht club anagrams to A Percolated Chubby And i dont know what that means but it sounds bad.
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ymgve posted:I'm pretty sure counting teeth is right there in the "coincidence" column, like is 18 even a nazi number? Yeah it's literally one of the most famous Nazi numbers, dingus (AH, Adolf Hitler, used by Neo Nazi groups like Combat 18)
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ymgve posted:I'm pretty sure counting teeth is right there in the "coincidence" column, like is 18 even a nazi number? really weird that it's been six years and some people still don't have some of the basic decoding down
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I don't know how someone can see the picture and not immediately clock it, details like numerology aside
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Other notable Nazi numbers: 14, 88
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TVsVeryOwn posted:Other notable Nazi numbers: 14, 88 6,000,000 is also notable.
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ymgve posted:I'm pretty sure counting teeth is right there in the "coincidence" column, like is 18 even a nazi number?  The overlay seems totally unnecessary; the resemblance is already clear. Having the exact same number of teeth would have a much stronger claim to just being a coincidence if not for, well, the rest. The fact that 18 can have additional significance is just the icing on the cake. Elysiume fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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happyhippy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQDr2L5RLag quoting this so it isn't lost
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Potato Salad posted:don't forget 45 1945? The year the guy who killed Hitler died?
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Kite Pride Worldwide posted:I mean isn't the venn diagram of nazis, libertarians, and crypto bros nearly a perfect circle in the first place? I'd believe it if you just told me 'hey the monkey NFT guys are nazis' with no actual evidence, anecdotal or otherwise. You'd be missing some directionality. Sometimes it goes libertarian->crypto->Nazi and sometimes it's more crypto->libertarian->Nazi. All taking place in a bigger circle of internalized neoliberal capitalism. But the pathway almost inevitably leads to Nazis.
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Strong Sauce posted:website offers evidence of ties to nazi imagery, numerology, and literature To be fair people are probably just seeing the badge bit and dismissing it, people all the time try and make claims over imagery in particular. Nazis were loving dorks for badges and symbols and had so many it's fairly easy to design something then realise its similar to something they used, often because a lot of the stuff they used was stolen from existing imagery, the swastika being the most famous.
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Jan 29, 2022 10:22
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It is totally based on the nazi logo, that can be seen with just a glance. But once you start going «count the TEETH» you are starting to look like a conspiracy nut, no matter if they actually are nazis
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ymgve posted:It is totally based on the nazi logo, that can be seen with just a glance. But once you start going «count the TEETH» you are starting to look like a conspiracy nut, no matter if they actually are nazis Nazis being able to say “look at how unreasonable this person is being” is kinda part of the point
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You can tell it’s nazis because who the gently caress else would use top and bottom rockers on a left facing skull?
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edit: just to interrupt all this nazi talk.Shooting Blanks posted:Interesting interview with Yanis Varoufakis, former economist employed by Valve. He moved on to become the finance minister of Greece and is now a MP there. Cross-posting this from the games dysfunction thread, since it is a stimulating read. Similar disclaimers, Yanis looks like a bond villain from the Roger Moore era and he's seen and done some poo poo with his degree. I don't agree with everything he says either and that is ok.. well, unless your brain is twitter-poisoned.
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Personally I'll look at the Bored Ape that's a caricature of a Japanese person and say yes that seems racist. and I'll look at that logo and say yeah it kind of looks like the deaths head logo and that makes it seem sketchy. all this stuff about counting teeth is QAnon for the left
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Color palette, graphic/text placement, rough edge circle, choice of skull motif. It's not a stretch to apply known numerical symbolism. This if it can't be distilled into a minute long infographic or it's apporaching conspiratorial levels of red threading a tac board. It's a hosed world of 14 hour dissertations of Mario's mustache influence in pasta sales during the 80s-90s and memes with Kermit asking "how fun is waiting for socialized medicine in those countries? probably lovely."
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Hammerite posted:Personally I'll look at the Bored Ape that's a caricature of a Japanese person and say yes that seems racist. and I'll look at that logo and say yeah it kind of looks like the deaths head logo and that makes it seem sketchy. all this stuff about counting teeth is QAnon for the left Then you, personally, know jack poo poo about modern right-extremist movements. They do all this nudge-nudge, wink-wink stuff on purpose, constantly. The reason QAnon spread so well among the far right is they believe everyone else does it, too.
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Hello Sailor posted:Then you, personally, know jack poo poo about modern right-extremist movements. They do all this nudge-nudge, wink-wink stuff on purpose, constantly. The reason QAnon spread so well among the far right is they believe everyone else does it, too. yeah. like, i agree that going "count the teeth" makes one sound crazy in a vacuum, but nazi-adjacent dildos have a very extreme history of caring about exactly that sort of thing so it's not actually weird at all.
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Either the ape people used exactly 18 teeth by sheer coincidence when sketching out their SS death's head clone, or they went out of their way to recreate that one aspect of the original skull exactly without knowing what it means (lol ok), or they knew what they were doing because Nazis love that poo poo.
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Potato Salad posted:really weird that it's been six years and some people still don't have some of the basic decoding down "Potato Salad is a dish popular in the southern regions of the United States. It has been observed being served at gatherings of klan members. Forum user Potato Salad refuses to address these ties to white supremacy." A lot of what is at that link is on this level. Racism permeates society and culture, so it's really easy to draw these lines to thongs that don't have that intent behind them using the exact same kind of thinking that leads people to believe that a picture of a monkey with randomized accessories will be worth money someday. It's important to check those thought processes even when the conclusion is correct so that the next time you're lead down the garden path you don't wind up someplace like "COVID is a Democrat hoax to take away our freedoms." So while their little club is pretty drat likely to be founded and run by neonazis, don't just take a bunch of out of context stuff that has simpler explanations as absolute truth. Also, the teeth number is probable because they were copying, rather than a conscious choice. Still damning, though. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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Didn't Yanis work at valve on the tf2 hat economy?
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Splorange posted:edit: just to interrupt all this nazi talk. Don't sleep on this article, some genuinely interesting stuff.
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Hello Sailor posted:Then you, personally, know jack poo poo about modern right-extremist movements. This reads like it's meant to insult me, but I don't particularly think it does.
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Hammerite posted:This reads like it's meant to insult me, but I don't particularly think it does. It’s not an insult I don’t think, but you genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about on this subject. It’s honestly surprising that someone who nominally takes an interest in fringe politics wouldn’t know about the number 18, but once knowing that it is a Nazi number, to say it’s probably a coincidence when everything else strongly resembles Nazi iconography is downright delusional.
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honestly the logos are so similar i dunno how this is even a convo like, they're definitely nazis. its basically the exact same logo lmao. its way beyond coincidence...
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Hammerite posted:This reads like it's meant to insult me, but I don't particularly think it does. No, it's an expression of the frustration of people who do understand this stuff. The symbols, numbers and code phrases they use are intentionally ridiculous, and explaining them to people who aren't paying attention is frustrating because they refuse to believe anyone could be that dumb. And every single time you have to explain why the guy talking about 14 words flashing an okay sign wearing a frog shirt with 88 on its jersey is a nazi, some clueless person wanders in and gives a condescending speech about not falling victim to conspiratorial thinking. Ohthehugemanatee fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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One of my mates went deep down the rabbit hole with the gme stuff and was already into bitcoin as hes a reddit reading next big thing sorta guy so constant hey you shoukd get on this txts, last few months silent on the coins crap, but all about the gym, and omg protien and carbs man make me poo poo, tbh crypto txts where worse than litteral postfs about poo poo.
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Ohthehugemanatee posted:No, it's an expression of the frustration of people who do understand this stuff. This is also why the KKK went with various things like their hoods and titles and such Klaverns, Grand Wizards, etc. All of it served to cause others to dismiss them as just being weird or strange instead of being massive racists. Some of it also helped to shield them from public identity. A lot of white supremacy stuff is driven by/utilizes mythos and Things That Can't Be A Coincidence to further justify their bigotry. That it also serves to make people who aren't familiar with it to dismiss it as being silly is just bonus. Hell look at the 'OK sign' prank. And this is also why the Tiki Torch Brigade at Charlottesville was dressed the way they were. The old Neo-Nazi Skinhead thing became too well known, but a bunch of people wearing white shirts and khaki shorts and 'regular' haircuts? Nothing wrong with that. Sure they might be chanting Jews Will Not Replace Us and Blood And Soil, but they don't look like Neo-Nazis. Taerkar fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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Crypto and crossfit is definitely a venn-diagram without corners.
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This could go on all day but I'll settle for saying again that I don't see why - given that we're all in agreement that the logo resembles the death's head logo - anyone (nazi or otherwise) would care about the number of teeth it happens to have. It would be a nazi logo with 18 teeth, with 16 teeth, with any other number of teeth.
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Hammerite posted:This reads like it's meant to insult me, but I don't particularly think it does. Apologies. It's what previous posters have said and sort of like when you run into someone who has never heard of goatse. Kind of a simultaneous envy of your ignorance and grumpiness both about shattering it and having to shatter it. E: or not, since you appear to be doubling down on "I find it difficult to believe that this Nazi symbol contains known Nazi symbolism." Ohthehugemanatee posted:The symbols, numbers and code phrases they use are intentionally ridiculous, and explaining them to people who aren't paying attention is frustrating because they refuse to believe anyone could be that dumb. "It can't be that stupid, you must be explaining it wrong" is a phrase that covers a lot of ground in this particular Venn diagram. Hello Sailor fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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Hammerite posted:This could go on all day but I'll settle for saying again that I don't see why - given that we're all in agreement that the logo resembles the death's head logo - anyone (nazi or otherwise) would care about the number of teeth it happens to have. It would be a nazi logo with 18 teeth, with 16 teeth, with any other number of teeth. Because 18 means something to them. They could have made it with a whole bunch of non-Nazi stuff but then that would mean it wouldn't be a Nazi thing. Cryptoshit already involves a lot of People Who Think They're Smarter Than Everyone Else, so why stop there? Coincidentally this is also why vast conspiracies dont work, you get too many people involved and dumb poo poo like this rises to the surface. Taerkar fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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Ohthehugemanatee posted:No, it's an expression of the frustration of people who do understand this stuff. There's a real danger that you start seeing symbols everywhere once you start actively looking for them. Yeah, some of them may be the symbols you're looking for, but you're also going to start going, "Aha!" at coincidences. This kind of chaining of inferences to reach a conclusion that you're motivated to reach is harmful even when the conclusions is something real. A good counter example of this is the recent use of the okay hand sign because it's not just people shouting, "Look! A nazi hand sign! Nazis everywhere!" There's documentation of people wanting to adopt it, of it getting pushed in those circles, of people using it in ways that it's intended as that signal. There's context beyond just a photo of a shithead making an okay sign. A significant portion of the "evidence" given here doesn't have that context. They're images or references that could be pulled from multiple places. 18 teeth is absurd as a pointer because you're going to get an even number of teeth between 16 and 20 if you draw a skull in profile. You have to start chaining things with other information that doesn't have a lot of weight behind it. Yeah, hate groups love their symbols, but just because hate groups have tens of thousands of potential symbols doesn't mean that everything is one of them. Context matters. Here the context is that it looks like the person who made the logo was copying the badge. One step. The end. We've got other significant pointers and plenty of reason to be suspicious, we don't need to keep digging up more potential links because that is how you go down the rabbit hole of crazy.
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Article is paywalled, but a good reminder of the difficulty in converting large quantities of $FUN_BUX into IRL cash: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/gold/made-4m-profit-crypto-bank-wont-let-spend/ Way more crypto is sloshing around digitally than can readily be converted to lambos/magic cards/etc., and it finds itself doing things luck pumping dumbass monkey pictures instead.
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