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The no Fire 4 rotation was never optimal, it was a surprisingly effective joke rotation. Use of Transpose can still be a potency per second gain under certain specific conditions but that's very high level optimization and loving it up will be a way bigger damage loss than just doing the normal rotation well.
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Ibblebibble posted:Have fun in part 2. got to act 3 before we ran out of time. act 2 is some nonsense in unclarity but we got it mostly sorted out. i feel the rest should go smoothly. hoping for a clear next week, maybe.
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Kaubocks posted:got to act 3 before we ran out of time. act 2 is some nonsense in unclarity but we got it mostly sorted out. i feel the rest should go smoothly. hoping for a clear next week, maybe. Act 2 is pretty easy once you memorise what you have to do, unless youre a Fire DPS in which cause it's a bit trickier. Tanks have it super easy.
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It's done: https://i.imgur.com/rQHQy5C.gifv
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Vargs posted:Unfortunately it is now going to be impossible to give a poo poo about GW2 or WoW ever again. For real, I used to like GW2.
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Ibblebibble posted:Act 2 is pretty easy once you memorise what you have to do, unless youre a Fire DPS in which cause it's a bit trickier. Tanks have it super easy. yea we were running into some dumb confusion about everyone going to the right places, but just not quickly enough, so it looked like things resolved correctly but was still killing us. that walled a handful of pulls. we've more or less got it down now. or at least i do because tank is braindead lol. kinda disappointed there's no new music for part 2. i already knew there wasn't, but it was still lame to finally cross the finish line of part 1 and just keep going with the same song uninterrupted.
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Ibblebibble posted:Act 2 is pretty easy once you memorise what you have to do, unless youre a Fire DPS in which cause it's a bit trickier. Tanks have it super easy. The secret here is you mark the DPS 1 through 4 and the higher number in the fire pair goes counterclockwise.
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Congrats! I’m probably gonna finish today, just got a couple levels on one Trust to go. Also I didn’t know you could have title change macros that rules
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Harrow posted:Congrats! I’m probably gonna finish today, just got a couple levels on one Trust to go. The /title command can be used in macros (or even in the text box) to change your title. I use title change macros with my job buttons. For example, the one I have for Summoner right now: code:Fun fact: just entering /title with no associated title subcommand just sets your title to something random, like a title roulette.
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Oh, I might have to pick out a bunch of titles then since I'm using a fancy macro bar for job switching.
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 Finally! Totally worth it though, honestly I've ignored beast tribe quests until this expansion and it turns out I love them, the stories are usually pretty fun.
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The Namazu quests are the best. Love those little idiots.
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My favorite things about them is how Cirina wants to eat them
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Macaluso posted:My favorite things about them is how Cirina wants to eat them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YlTeJ2BLI4
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theironjef posted:
Yes yes. Rap Game Goku posted:The Namazu quests are the best. Love those little idiots. yes yes yes yes
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Harrow posted:Congrats! I’m probably gonna finish today, just got a couple levels on one Trust to go.
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Insert name here posted:I uh, didn't know you could either lol. I just spliced two clips together with video editing. Hahaha, well that rules even more
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I started leveling crafters/gatherers thinking "I'm going to make some gil," but ended up just fully leveling them for the job/beast tribe stories (and have absolutely lost gil overall). Still worth it, though. Orcs and Ostriches posted:I think you summarized every mmo job ever. Well, limited to tab-targeting MMOs. Though even with tab-targeting you can incorporate stuff like more meaningful pets or affects like slows/stuns/interrupts/stealth (that technically exist but aren't actually a part of combat outside of low-level dungeon trash mobs). This isn't a judgement, though; I prefer the way FF14 does things to any other MMO and think its design is likely necessary for its style of gameplay (which emphasizes balance between jobs and "complex but fair" mechanics - if you add a greater variety of player abilities that aren't just "higher/lower numbers" it becomes far harder to balance and would likely not be compatible with FF14's encounter design).
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Ytlaya posted:I started leveling crafters/gatherers thinking "I'm going to make some gil," but ended up just fully leveling them for the job/beast tribe stories (and have absolutely lost gil overall). Still worth it, though. I think there's a significant difference between classes that execute a fixed rotation and classes that execute based on procs. It shows up a lot more in other MMOs, but FFXIV still has DNC and to a lesser extent BRD. The gap between melee and ranged DPS is also significant, as is any hybrid role. RDM vs. BLM, NIN vs. the rest of the mDPS. Positionals matter as well, though I'm willing to ignore them because (a) they suck and (b) they've moved away from that. Basically, I think you accurately identified cast times as one of the primary things that makes them distinct, but you left out a lot of other components that create a difference between beating up a target dummy and a real fight. admanb fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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My short review of all DoH job quests: ARR for everything except WVR/GSM: mediocre but tolerable. WVR and GSM were good. HW: awful. too many steps, too much running around, even if the stories and characters were more interesting I dreaded these. StB: pretty good! ALC, WVR, GSM, CUL probably my favorites? i feel like these fold better stories with less hassle than HW. kitten emergency fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jan 29, 2022 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I miss positionals play drg
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Probably a dumb take on my part, but I feel a bit let down that Cross Reaping and Void Reaping when enshrouded don't have any positionals. I think making Lemure's slice a back positional and void/cross sides would be a decent compromise.
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Took me nearly two hours to get to the top of that building in Kugane. When I got up there, a person was waiting for me, just sitting there, watching the sunset, and they gave me explicit instructions on how to land on the lampost for the sightseeing entry - which I landed first try, thanks to their help. There is goodness in the world.
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cheetah7071 posted:play drg dragoon barely has positionals these days compared to what it used to be. In HW they had a random positional every 4-5 gcds.
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Mr. Nice! posted:dragoon barely has positionals these days compared to what it used to be. In HW they had a random positional every 4-5 gcds. I am aware of the history of drg it actually has more positionals now than it did in hw, though without the random aspect. 5 every 10 gcds (chaotic spring, wheeling thrust x2, fang and claw x2), as opposed to HW's 4 (heavy thrust, chaotic thrust, ranom positional x2). With monk's rework, drg has the highest density of positionals in the game, with a full 50% of its attacks.
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I tried Dragoon during SB and I didn't like it but now that my boy Monk no longer has me awkwardly dancing behind dudes trying to keep on top of which positional everything is I might need to give it another shot.
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It actually always seemed wrong to me that Monk, rather than Dragoon, was the most positional-heavy class, since pugilists/monks would presumably be more used to toe-to-toe, face-to-face dueling with an enemy that will naturally turn to face them, while dragoons are specialized in asymmetrical fights against big monsters with location-based weaknesses and blind spots.
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You're right. I can't recall and couldn't find anything googling, but I seem to recall that impulse drive in 2.0 also required that you be at the rear to start the combo and get the 180 potency.
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Mr. Nice! posted:You're right. yeah that was changed in 2.41 I think. At that time, chaos thrust wasn't a positional--it gained the position when impulse drive lost it.
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Nah I loved the vibes with Monk. It was like "makes sense the fisticuffs class would be all about footwork and going in and out with all your moves" and like that's not really what it was it was more hitting the sides and behind but I felt it flowed well into the class's identity.
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Mr. Nice! posted:You're right. They also had Heavy Thrust, which was flank, and gave them their attack buff.
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ARR drg had a really hosed up GCD order, which was the primary interesting point of the class. It was actually pretty light on poisitionals, though if you missed the impulse drive rear hit then it didn't proc the combo which was extremely hosed If I did my math right, 5/24 (about 20%) of the drg attacks in ARR were positionals. Then a clean 40% in HW, and 50% in SB, ShB, and EW
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